Can Existing League Use Promotion and Relegation?

[Eugene Church]

I have a long-running dynasty league the Islandian Pro Alliance.

I have 64 teams... 8 teams in 8 divisions... with 2 different conferences or leagues that only play each other for the overall league title.

Can I use Promotion and Relegation in my current league?... or do you have to have a newly-created league to incorporate Promotion and Relegation?

I would change the IPA to 4 divisions with 16 teams in each... the bottom two teams would be in the first division would be relegated each season and replaced by the top two teams in the second division... and so on.

I suppose the bottom two teams in the fourth division would not be affected, nor would the top two teams in the first division.

Your help would be very much appreciated.

[Eugene Church]

Does the feature Promotion and Relegation work well?

I understand the game will do it automatically or I could do it manually?

Is one method better than the other?

[eldur00]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

I have a long-running dynasty league the Islandian Pro Alliance.

I have 64 teams... 8 teams in 8 divisions.

Can I use Promotion and Relegation in my current league?... or do you have to have a newly-created league to incorporate Promotion and Relegation?

I would change the IPA to 4 divisions with 16 teams in each... the bottom two teams would be in the first division would be relegated each season and replaced by the top two teams in the second division... and so on.

I suppose the bottom two teams in the fourth division would not be affected, nor would the top two teams in the first division.

Your help would be very much appreciated.

You need to have at least 2 leagues to do Promotion/Relegation, then you set up the Promotion/Relegation from the League Menu. You can choose how many teams get up, how many go down, and if you manually do it or if you let the AI choose the teams.


So in your case, if I understand your structure right, it would not work because you're talking about splitting the conferences, but since they are part of the same league, it would not work.


I've never tried to add pro/rel in an already existing universe so I'm not sure how it would work, but if you do it I'd recommend, when you add new league(s) to make sure you change the reputation of the league for the "lesser" leagues and also adjust their financials - you want to make sure getting promoted has benefits attached to it and more money is definitely the way to do it.


I have a 4 leagues pro/rel universe and I love it. It took a long time tinkering with everything to get it to work to my liking, but it was well worth it.

Since you have a long going league, I'd either make a safe backup of the current league before you start playing around with the structure, or better yet, I'd create a dummy universe just so you can see where you want things to go with it.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by eldur00

You need to have at least 2 leagues to do Promotion/Relegation, then you set up the Promotion/Relegation from the League Menu. You can choose how many teams get up, how many go down, and if you manually do it or if you let the AI choose the teams.


So in your case, if I understand your structure right, it would not work because you're talking about splitting the conferences, but since they are part of the same league, it would not work.


I've never tried to add pro/rel in an already existing universe so I'm not sure how it would work, but if you do it I'd recommend, when you add new league(s) to make sure you change the reputation of the league for the "lesser" leagues and also adjust their financials - you want to make sure getting promoted has benefits attached to it and more money is definitely the way to do it.


I have a 4 leagues pro/rel universe and I love it. It took a long time tinkering with everything to get it to work to my liking, but it was well worth it.

Since you have a long going league, I'd either make a safe backup of the current league before you start playing around with the structure, or better yet, I'd create a dummy universe just so you can see where you want things to go with it.

Thanks for the help and advice... I never monkey around with my league... and always keep a several backups on external hard drives.

Hopefully someone on the Beta Team involved in Promotion and Relegation will give me a definitive answer about whether or not I can use the feature with a long-established league.

[Rain King]

The Promotion-Relegation options are part of the main League Settings. I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to turn them on later in an established league. It isn't really any different than turning the DH on later or something along those lines. You just need to make sure that you have 2 leagues. I would also make sure you have League Reputations set as well.

[Chico Guilbault]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

Thanks for the help and advice... I never monkey around with my league... and always keep a several backups on external hard drives.

Hopefully someone on the Beta Team involved in Promotion and Relegation will give me a definitive answer about whether or not I can use the feature with a long-established league.

I did this with my long established leagues with no issues. I did have to convert two existing leagues in my "universe" to majors from independent though. I also made an association for all the leagues involved in promotion/relegation so I could share a draft.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Rain King

The Promotion-Relegation options are part of the main League Settings. I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to turn them on later in an established league. It isn't really any different than turning the DH on later or something along those lines. You just need to make sure that you have 2 leagues. I would also make sure you have League Reputations set as well.

What are "League Reputations"?

Is that the quality of talent level compared to the Major League in my league?

I only have one major league... no minors... I just use a reserve roster for each team.

Is it possible to realign my league from 2 subleagues with 4 divisions in each subleague to 1 subleague with four 16-team divisions?

I don't use financials in my league, so that could eliminate a possible problem.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Chico Guilbault

I did this with my long established leagues with no issues. I did have to convert two existing leagues in my "universe" to majors from independent though. I also made an association for all the leagues involved in promotion/relegation so I could share a draft.

Thank you for your help.

I don't use a draft in my league... the average talent is just bad... I just create ready-made players of varying degrees of talent...a rare star...… some good players... some average players and lots of bench players... it has worked much better than the AI draft... my rookies from the draft rarely had good seasons... they were just mediocre at best..

[Rain King]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

What are "League Reputations"?

Is that the quality of talent level compared to the Major League in my league?

I only have one major league... no minors... I just use a reserve roster for each team.

Is it possible to realign my league from 2 subleagues with 4 divisions in each subleague to 1 subleague with four 16-team divisions?

I don't use financials in my league, so that could eliminate a possible problem.

If you aren't using Financials I think that is even more incentive to use the League Reputation setting. It is under League Settings --> League & Teams.

It will essentially help the players differentiate which league is the "better" league in free agency and will make it much less likely your best players will sign with a team that is in the Lower league. It is on a 1-10 scale with 10 being the highest.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Rain King

If you aren't using Financials I think that is even more incentive to use the League Reputation setting. It is under League Settings --> League & Teams.

It will essentially help the players differentiate which league is the "better" league in free agency and will make it much less likely your best players will sign with a team that is in the Lower league. It is on a 1-10 scale with 10 being the highest.

It won't make any difference, if he's not using financials he won't have free agency. League reputation equates to quality of league. MLB is a 10 as it's the highest quality league. An Indy league might be a 5, so yes if you have FA that will make a difference.



Eugene - Whether you have finances on or off isn't going to matter as far as restructuring your league (2 sub leagues to 1, etc).