PT is frustrating!

[old timer]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

This is purely anecdotal, but I've found that for the most part, I can get away with the high stuff guys in the bullpen, while the rotation is another story. In the bullpen, it seems, strikeouts are king. But the starters, who are facing 20+ batters per game, have more chances to get burned, and burned hard, without decent movement/control.

This is how it looks to me as well. I've got a bullpen that's stronger in the stuff department, but a starting staff that's stronger in the movement/control areas and they've been doing quite well. Plus flyball pitchers have been consistently more effective for me.

[Maddox]

You wanna talk about player swings.

Same player in the same role with all the same strategy settings.

ERA is 4 points higher
K/9 down by 1.2
W/9 up by almost 2
Went from 1 blown save in 2019 (70 games) to 10 already this year (50 games)

And no, I am not facing stacked teams. I am actually leading my division at 65-60.

There are more of my team that fell off drastically this season but that one I believe is the most extreme

[Dunzie]

Originally Posted by Maddox

You wanna talk about player swings.

Same player in the same role with all the same strategy settings.

ERA is 4 points higher
K/9 down by 1.2
W/9 up by almost 2
Went from 1 blown save in 2019 (70 games) to 10 already this year (50 games)

And no, I am not facing stacked teams. I am actually leading my division at 65-60.

There are more of my team that fell off drastically this season but that one I believe is the most extreme

Yikes. That is a drastic fall-out. You tested him for substances? Maybe got the big payday after last year and spending it in all the wrong ways.


My Schilling (ARI) last year won pitcher of the year and had a miserable start in silver. I was so close to pulling the trigger on auctioning him off but stuck with him and the ERA has slowly tracked back down to sub-4 and now he seems to be on track again winning most starts. Hope your Kela does the same.

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by <Pion>

Here are some over/under achievers on results that can be anticipated for your players...

Over league average
Starlin Marte, Steve Piscotty, and Ryan Zimmerman for hitters, Bobby Thigpen for RP (very good compared to average RP, the biggest differential of your players)

So these are "keepers" then, I take it?

Under league average
Nelson Cruz, Matt Duffy, Jed Gyorko, Mike Moustakas (atrocious), Willingham, Barnes, Porter, and Suzuki for hitters, Antonelli, Hunter, and Strahm for SP.

And these aren't keepers, if I understand your wording correctly?

[uschi_baerchen]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

I'm not sure which guy you think should be hitting 35+ who is "barely reaching" 11-12.Going down your team in power, you have Eloy future who's an 80, who has 13 HR in 100 games this year, or at least on pace for about 20. Your other power hitters are Abreu, who's already hit 21 HR, Fisk, who admittedly has done bad for you, but who still has 7 HR in 50 games, Winfield, who has 12 in 90 games, Arenado only has 3 HR but only 29 games. Your next few best hitters all have 10+ HR in 90-100 games, so again, well above what you say.

Batting is low, but it's low for everyone because pitching is so good. But your team is 3rd in the league in HR. Remember, the league batting average is around .260, and this is a league where teams routinely have guys like Bregman or Winfield on the bench, so you need some luck to be higher.

Yeah, your Syndergaard had a bad game, but other than that one stinker, he's done pretty well for you. And again, remember, the average starter in the league is a mid-80s rated starter. And I know it was in your other thread, but if you think ratings mean nothing, I would suggest going to the league, check all qualified starters, and sort by WAR or FIP or anything. On the first page, I see 3 perfects, 9 diamonds, 8 golds, and 3 silvers (2xLen Barker plus Whitley). On the bottom page, yes, there are a Carrasco and a Strasburg, but it's mostly Bronze and Silver players.

Basically, the talent levels are just crazy high. So yeah, sometimes you get unlucky. You're also unlucky this year in that you have 2 of the probably 4 or 5 best teams in the league in your division, so that sets you a bit back from the get-go, unfortunately. And we're both in a little bit of an unfortunate spot, being around the .500 mark, enough back that we need a good run to get a wildcard spot, but I think we're both top-16 in the league, so if you think this year is hard, next year might be worse.

Thanks for mentioning Whitley and Barker, I missed them to be silver. To return the favour: look at Michael Kopech. And also you´re right, that Mike the Fish will not collect 10 WAR when batting against Scherzer, Snydergaard, Nola, Pedro etc. every other game and in return these pitchers will not collect less than 3 earned runs against these monster hitters very often (I mean, Martinez is already a borderline starter, this guy would have been MVP in many years!). Part of the beauty of PT and OOTP is that the results are statistically realistic as far as mean values and variance are concerned. Sometimes something seems to be out of order, but consider the dodger-boston 18 innings game. If this was done in OOTP the looser would cry murder.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

I have gone 5-13 since the AS break.

PT is showing me that I still have a lot to learn about how the OOTP mechanics work.

Well.... it's the same in real life:

https://www.mlb.com/news/dodgers-not...mp/c-253001822

Quote: "The Cubs' World Series win 2016 was one of the most memorable in recent history -- it's hard to top shattering the longest World Series drought ever, winning your first title in more than a century and doing it in an instant-classic extra-innings Game 7 win. This Cubs team won 103 games in the regular season, the most in the Major Leagues, but it also went through a stretch where it lost 15 of 20 toward the end of the first half."