Suggestions about PP and money

Asov · 11-10-2018, 03:51 PM

First of all, i love the game, great job.

I have some suggestions regarding real money,

1) Buy players with real money shouldn't be possible, only packs.

2) Packs seems OP, idk how much money this guy spend, but this looks to much for only 1 or 2 days of packs.

In general, id like the game to live a long life (year), and not to have an end game team in 1 days paying or 1 months for free. I'd like to work my way to the "Perfect Team". On the other hand one of the most important things for me is the market and i believe this two things would make the "ecosystem" healthier and even the ground a little between poor and rich.

Maybe this has been considered or maybe im wrong with my suggestions, anyway i hope the game succeed.

ike121212 · 11-10-2018, 04:16 PM

The system is designed to maximize revenue. They love the guy who bought that team.

Asov · 11-10-2018, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ike121212

The system is designed to maximize revenue. They love the guy who bought that team.

I want the team to make money, and i don't care about others people money. I believe you can make a game for everyone.

Westheim · 11-10-2018, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ike121212

The system is designed to maximize revenue. They love the guy who bought that team.

Last time I checked, OOTP Developments was a business, not a charity.

One Post Wonder · 11-10-2018, 04:22 PM

If you think packs are OP and you think people who buy pp are OP, then why would you make it a requirement that pp buyers can only buy packs? Wouldn't that make them extremely OP?

ike121212 · 11-10-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Last time I checked, OOTP Developments was a business, not a charity.

Never suggested otherwise. It's just a different business now.

Maddox · 11-10-2018, 04:33 PM

Based on my packs to far (not counting starters) I would say they are not OP. My last pack had a 71, a 61, two cards in the 50's and two cards in the 40's

Westheim · 11-10-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ike121212

Never suggested otherwise. It's just a different business now.

Because they gave you a new service for free?

Asov · 11-10-2018, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

If you think packs are OP, then why would you make it a requirement that pp buyers can only buy packs?

If packs are OP you dont need a market. And the market is one of the key elements for me in a game like this. Also low/mid rated players will last very short time being usable.

About buying players directly with money you could end with the top cards being overpriced and the market dominated by people who buy PPs, if a lot of points goes into the game it will cause inflation on top cards.

I hope I have made myself clear, im not an economist and english is not my first language.

Fyrestorm3 · 11-10-2018, 04:44 PM

It's a little too soon to tell if the market needs balancing. But that's the point of the Beta; the dev team will be monitoring things, so that if it does turn out that packs are OP, or that inflation is making the market unsustainable, they'll be able to adjust things to compensate.

zrog2000 · 11-10-2018, 04:54 PM

People who have been lucky with packs think that packs are OP. People who have been unlucky with packs think the opposite. Without access to all of the data, it's impossible to know what is true, but you sure aren't getting the full picture by just looking at your own luck.

Asov · 11-10-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zrog2000

People who have been lucky with packs think that packs are OP. People who have been unlucky with packs think the opposite. Without access to all of the data, it's impossible to know what is true, but you sure aren't getting the full picture by just looking at your own luck.

That team shouldn't be possible in 2 days even with luck. But that's my point of view, maybe the dev team thinks otherwise, and thats fine.

zrog2000 · 11-10-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Asov

That team shouldn't be possible in 2 days even with luck. But that's my point of view, maybe the dev team thinks otherwise, and thats fine.

That team is only possible with buying points if they just started 2 days ago. You can open a whole lot of packs. Either that or they sold a perfect card for 100k PP and bought 100 packs.

There is absolutely no way of knowing that packs are OP because of one team, especially when you don't even know how they acquired the cards. What about the other thousands of players?

Asov · 11-10-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zrog2000

That team is only possible with buying points if they just started 2 days ago. You can open a whole lot of packs. Either that or they sold a perfect card for 100k PP and bought 100 packs.

There is absolutely no way of knowing that packs are OP because of one team, especially when you don't even know how they acquired the cards. What about the other thousands of players?

Packs shouldn't be profitable (i dont say they are, im referring to your example of the 100 packs), you dont need a market in that case, cards will go for discard value and low/mid rated cards will hold no value.

If the guy buy that team on the AH my concerns about inflation stays true if you can directly pay for players without open any pack.

One Post Wonder · 11-10-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Asov

cards will go for discard value and low/mid rated cards will hold no value..

If you play the market then you'll see that's already the case now. Even higher rated cards are dropping. You can already get some quality golds for under 1.5k and diamonds for less than 10k. And I agree with you that inflation is a big problem and is happening too fast.

That isn't because of pack buying by itself. It's mainly because cards never disappear or lower in value once they're in play. The supply of every card is always increasing so prices have to fall and fall. Perhaps we need to give more cards in each pack so people will still buy packs, but lower the odds of golds and diamonds appearing so that their prices don't drop too fast?

11-10-2018, 03:51 PM	#1
Asov Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 85	Suggestions about PP and money First of all, i love the game, great job. I have some suggestions regarding real money, 1) Buy players with real money shouldn't be possible, only packs. 2) Packs seems OP, idk how much money this guy spend, but this looks to much for only 1 or 2 days of packs. In general, id like the game to live a long life (year), and not to have an end game team in 1 days paying or 1 months for free. I'd like to work my way to the "Perfect Team". On the other hand one of the most important things for me is the market and i believe this two things would make the "ecosystem" healthier and even the ground a little between poor and rich. Maybe this has been considered or maybe im wrong with my suggestions, anyway i hope the game succeed.

11-10-2018, 04:22 PM	#5
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11-10-2018, 04:16 PM	#2
ike121212 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 938	The system is designed to maximize revenue. They love the guy who bought that team.

11-10-2018, 04:33 PM	#7
Maddox All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 903	Based on my packs to far (not counting starters) I would say they are not OP. My last pack had a 71, a 61, two cards in the 50's and two cards in the 40's

11-10-2018, 04:54 PM	#11
zrog2000 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,339	People who have been lucky with packs think that packs are OP. People who have been unlucky with packs think the opposite. Without access to all of the data, it's impossible to know what is true, but you sure aren't getting the full picture by just looking at your own luck.