Handling international prospects.

jmuelly · 04-10-2016, 06:34 PM

What's the best method of handling international prospects? I signed 3 and I see several other in my conplex some with high potential. What's the best way to handle these kids?

Curve Ball Dave · 04-10-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jmuelly

What's the best method of handling international prospects? I signed 3 and I see several other in my conplex some with high potential. What's the best way to handle these kids?

There is no "best way", every player is different.

However, as a rule I don't send any 16 year olds to Rookie ball. They have to be at least 17 and even then they have to be pretty good for me to think about it. By in large, a kid has to be 18 before I send him to Rookie ball.

What you can do is show their ratings relative to the Rookie ball and see how they stack up. If they look good against that standard then promote them.

endgame · 04-10-2016, 10:13 PM

Ditto Curveman, except I use 18 as the cutoff. Relative comparison is a great tool for that evaluation.

Sharkn20 · 04-11-2016, 05:57 PM

Is it any effect moving them later than sooner? ? I know if they struggle and they get pissed it might affect their development, but what about if you hold them for too long in the International complex??

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Curve Ball Dave · 04-11-2016, 08:08 PM

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Is it any effect moving them later than sooner? ? I know if they struggle and they get pissed it might affect their development, but what about if you hold them for too long in the International complex??

It would be like keeping a player in a lower minor league level when it's clear he's ready to move up. Being in over his head at level for which the player is not ready has a negative effect, and being too far along for the level he's at doesn't help either.

Sharkn20 · 04-11-2016, 08:20 PM

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It would be like keeping a player in a lower minor league level when it's clear he's ready to move up. Being in over his head at level for which the player is not ready has a negative effect, and being too far along for the level he's at doesn't help either.

Thanks man

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NoOne · 04-12-2016, 06:48 AM

move them the moment they can compete at your lowest level league. if they are a bit younger, make sure they aren't too deficient in any skill.

they biggest strategy is how you spend upto the cap each year. if you are always drafting low in the first round, it's a great way to supplement fresh talent. only spend over the international free agent cap for those HoF potential talents or if there are numerous high-quality prospects that you like...

if that guy(s) doesn't exist, which he will not in most years, look for good qualitty at bargain prices... earmark that money... then, sort by cheapest demand and look for AAA-quality talent or better... earmark as many as needed to spend upto the cap - but dont overspend.

doubling the "Demand" price will get the prospect 95% of the time. e.g. if it's 100k, 200shoudl do it, 210-220 will do it every time.

always leave some wiggle room.. how much? depends on the type of contracts you have offered... 1-2M dollar contracts may need 500k-1M, where as a bunch of tiny contracts might only need a 100k to cover a a few increased demands.

jmuelly · 04-12-2016, 06:53 AM

Thanks all. As the Brewers I went over budget to sign Morejon. We're hungry for an ace like pitcher so accepting the tax penalty for team control of a potential ace in the making was worth the risk at least for where my club sits.

I figure we're not competing to win now and when we are in 3-4 years he just might be near ready for a mid season call up to flip the cards. Of course he could be just a waste too. It's a gamble I am happy to take to get my Brewers an ace without forfeiting equal prospects and/or top FA money for a players potentially beyond his prime.

04-10-2016, 06:34 PM	#1
jmuelly Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 161	Handling international prospects. What's the best method of handling international prospects? I signed 3 and I see several other in my conplex some with high potential. What's the best way to handle these kids?

04-10-2016, 10:13 PM	#3
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Ditto Curveman, except I use 18 as the cutoff. Relative comparison is a great tool for that evaluation. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

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Sharkn20 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 289	Is it any effect moving them later than sooner? ? I know if they struggle and they get pissed it might affect their development, but what about if you hold them for too long in the International complex?? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

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NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	move them the moment they can compete at your lowest level league. if they are a bit younger, make sure they aren't too deficient in any skill. they biggest strategy is how you spend upto the cap each year. if you are always drafting low in the first round, it's a great way to supplement fresh talent. only spend over the international free agent cap for those HoF potential talents or if there are numerous high-quality prospects that you like... if that guy(s) doesn't exist, which he will not in most years, look for good qualitty at bargain prices... earmark that money... then, sort by cheapest demand and look for AAA-quality talent or better... earmark as many as needed to spend upto the cap - but dont overspend. doubling the "Demand" price will get the prospect 95% of the time. e.g. if it's 100k, 200shoudl do it, 210-220 will do it every time. always leave some wiggle room.. how much? depends on the type of contracts you have offered... 1-2M dollar contracts may need 500k-1M, where as a bunch of tiny contracts might only need a 100k to cover a a few increased demands.

04-12-2016, 06:53 AM	#8
jmuelly Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 161	Thanks all. As the Brewers I went over budget to sign Morejon. We're hungry for an ace like pitcher so accepting the tax penalty for team control of a potential ace in the making was worth the risk at least for where my club sits. I figure we're not competing to win now and when we are in 3-4 years he just might be near ready for a mid season call up to flip the cards. Of course he could be just a waste too. It's a gamble I am happy to take to get my Brewers an ace without forfeiting equal prospects and/or top FA money for a players potentially beyond his prime.