Gambo/Spritze and OOTP 12

[Doc_Brown]

OK a huge n00b question; Just downloaded the GamboSpritze OOTP12(current day DB), where do I extract the files too?

[Spritze]

Stats folder is a good choice. Backup your original stats folder first if you so choose.

[Doc_Brown]

Originally Posted by Spritze

Stats folder is a good choice. Backup your original stats folder first if you so choose.

Thanks and thanks for the reply.

[GrantDawg]

Let me see if I can explain this in a way that makes sense and gets a correct response. (probably not)

I want to create a historical league that brings the players in on their original teams at the time they become a professional. And I am also thinking about creating a league that will bring players into a hs feeder. So, let me break this down into two separate questions:

1) What are the best settings to bring players in to their original teams when they become professionals, and not have them nearly ML when they start? I am currently using the Gambo database, and have tried it both using the suggested neutralized stats and non-neutralized stats. It ends up most decent players hit the ML the year they join the organization (many at 18-19 years old). I do not want to have to recalc the players for their current year stats, but grow organically. Suggestions on important settings?

2) Will I be able to get the new players to enter the hs feeders? If I had a college level as well, would players also go there? Again, suggested settings?

Sorry, this should have went under the historic tab, or even the db tab, but you guys are talking on this thread and I was hoping to get a response.

[dcundy]

been at this for a while but still looking for a better way to setup my historical sim settings. does anyone have any suggestions or even a how to set up the rules/basic options/historical/strategy settings.

[adaher]

Question for a first time Gambo-Spritze db downloader: are the Negro Leaguers and Asian players in there? I went to master.csv and couldn't find them. Are they located somewhere else?

[Pete Grassi]

Originally Posted by adaher

Question for a first time Gambo-Spritze db downloader: are the Negro Leaguers and Asian players in there? I went to master.csv and couldn't find them. Are they located somewhere else?

They are there. Sort by college and Negro players are listed as NEGRO and Asian players are listed as their country (Taiwan, China, Japan, etc)

[GrantDawg]

I have a further question. Why does the AI assign some players to their respective teams, and not others (with drafting off)? I started in 1921, and I am having to go through at the end of every season (on player import) and hand put a good many created players onto their respective teams. Even more annoying, several players are signed as minor league free agents to the wrong clubs immediately on creation.

[Spritze]

In 1921 wouldn't most players be on independent teams in independent leagues? If that were the case they'd be in the free agents list instead of assigned to a team.

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

1) What are the best settings to bring players in to their original teams when they become professionals, and not have them nearly ML when they start? I am currently using the Gambo database, and have tried it both using the suggested neutralized stats and non-neutralized stats. It ends up most decent players hit the ML the year they join the organization (many at 18-19 years old). I do not want to have to recalc the players for their current year stats, but grow organically. Suggestions on important settings?

If you don't use recalc it is up to the development engine when players become ready not the db.

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

2) Will I be able to get the new players to enter the hs feeders? If I had a college level as well, would players also go there? Again, suggested settings?

I have no idea, all I have is a bird feeder.

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by dcundy

been at this for a while but still looking for a better way to setup my historical sim settings. does anyone have any suggestions or even a how to set up the rules/basic options/historical/strategy settings.

Totally depends on the year you start. In the 1800's-1910 I use all the defaults except for roster size. I change that to 15-18. I simply use defaults for all the rest. Recalc on gives the best results but sometimes I play with it off just to change things up.

[TDO]

I've re-read this a few times and think i understand. I have a fictional league with fictional players. I would like the rookie draft to comprimise real players who still need seasoning etc. That to me sounds like i want the spritze high school one. (I dont mind fringe players, guys who may never make it etc. [I am also assuming guys who went to college will show up in here]).

My question now is, my league is 2 seasons in, is it possible to still one of these or do i need to start over if i want to use one of these?

[Spritze]

In game setup simply change where the db pointer goes or just install what you want to use in the OOTP12\Stats folder and you won't need to change the pointer.

[TDO]

So just copy the Master csv file into the one that already exists if i just want rookies to appear? Some of the other stats seem to predetermine awards and such i just want the ability for players to appear before being major league ready.

[Spritze]

You gotta use the whole magilla, the master alone is meaningless if you don't have the bits that give it meaning.

[TDO]

i am confused. if i replace all those files with yours wont my players in my game be lost or are those stored elsewhere? Basically what i want to do is start having players join as rookies and have to develop in the minors before joining my team without losing the current set up and players.

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Let me see if I can explain this in a way that makes sense and gets a correct response. (probably not)

2) Will I be able to get the new players to enter the hs feeders? If I had a college level as well, would players also go there? Again, suggested settings?

Sorry, this should have went under the historic tab, or even the db tab, but you guys are talking on this thread and I was hoping to get a response.

The best that I could come up with is to manually assign the players to college or HS feeders. It takes me awhile but I enjoy it.

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by TDO

i am confused. if i replace all those files with yours wont my players in my game be lost or are those stored elsewhere? Basically what i want to do is start having players join as rookies and have to develop in the minors before joining my team without losing the current set up and players.

Once they are in the game your players are in the game. If they are historical players and you use recalc they will get recalced with your new db. If you use the db pointer in setup you can have both db's active. Actually you can have five or six even.

[bronco6710]

I have a question about starting up a historical league using the GamboDB. I started one in 1939 just to test it out, but as far as I can tell, only the 1939 MLB players imported initially - that is, no Negro Leaguers or Minor Leaguers whose careers would have been in progress in 1939 (I assumed they would show up as FAs). When I got to the next draft (I always draft), all the Negro Leaguers, young amateurs, and Asian players showed up in the pool as expected.

What this seems to suggest is that there are some players in the DB who debuted later than 1939 or not at all IRL, but who would have entered the league through the draft well before that. If those players aren't included in the original 1939 mass import, does the league essentially miss out on those players entirely, skipping over a good few years worth of talent? That can't be right, I must be doing this wrong... please advise.

[Gambo]

Did you import using neutralized statistics? The gambo DB only works when neutralized statistics are enabled. When you choose real statistics essentially all you get are MLB players.