2011 NBA Playoffs

rudel.dietrich · 04-18-2011, 06:22 PM

Every team has played at least one game now. Some surprise upsets, like Memphis over San Antonio and New Orleans winning over LA. New York and Boston had a good game yesterday and OKC and Denver played a very entertaining game. I cannot wait for them to continue that series.
Anyone else watching?

CD1083 · 04-18-2011, 08:07 PM

I've been watching. The Bulls/Pacers game was Excellent.

theasfl · 04-19-2011, 01:42 PM

I've been watching, I wanted to pick Memphis to win the series, but couldn't with Rudy Gay hurt. Collison's injury last night was horrible luck for the Pacers, I'm hoping they push the Bulls a bit.

jaxmagicman · 04-19-2011, 04:03 PM

No reason to watch. It is going to be Boston and LA again. That is what the NBA wants.

CD1083 · 04-19-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

No reason to watch. It is going to be Boston and LA again. That is what the NBA wants.

You really think Boston can beat Miami?

I don't know why the NBA would want that matchup again.

jaxmagicman · 04-19-2011, 04:26 PM

I didn't know why they wanted it last year either. But you can watch the games without any allegiance and see which teams get the calls every game. When Paul Peirce does his little fake and someone jumps straight up and he jumps into them and they are called for a foul you can just sit back and know everything is going to go Boston's way.

When Kobe Bryant pisses an moans up and down the court and nothing is done, but the Thunder get called for T for questioning a single call, you just know it is going to go LA's way.

CD1083 · 04-19-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I didn't know why they wanted it last year either. But you can watch the games without any allegiance and see which teams get the calls every game. When Paul Peirce does his little fake and someone jumps straight up and he jumps into them and they are called for a foul you can just sit back and know everything is going to go Boston's way.

When Kobe Bryant pisses an moans up and down the court and nothing is done, but the Thunder get called for T for questioning a single call, you just know it is going to go LA's way.

I don't watch basketball often enough to notice. I only watch the playoffs. Give me a few games and I'll see if I notice anything.

jaxmagicman · 04-19-2011, 04:48 PM

NBA is the league with the least parity of all the sports. The reason is the refs have all the control. The stars get all the calls. The big cities get all the stars. The big cities get the most fans watching. So you can see why the NBA has had 1 unique champion in the last 11 years and only 8 different champs in the last 31 years.

neugey · 04-19-2011, 04:57 PM

Been a devout Laker fan since '85. I'll watch the Lakers as much as this busy time of year allows.

Will agree the NBA lacks the parity most of the other sports have, but it always has been that way going back to the 50-60's Celtics dynasty. The NBA officiated is indeed often inconsistent and not impartial, but it's not the reason for the lack of parity.

jaxmagicman · 04-19-2011, 05:04 PM

Of course a Laker fan wouldn't think so.

I have seen Kobe Bryant chase a ref up and down the court complaining about a call. Nothing is done. Then I have seen another player in the same game throw his hand up in frustration and get a T called on him. Sometimes at the most crucial time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4rAT3roUSk

Here is the biggest star getting a call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36nT2...eature=related

rudel.dietrich · 04-19-2011, 05:29 PM

Jax, please don't ruin the thread with your tin foil hat conspiracy theories. In your schizoid rantings you did not mention that one of the teams that have won consistently over the last several years have been the San Antonio Spurs. They are a small market team with a boring style of play (up until this season)
Why the NBA would want them to win makes no sense.

Los Angeles has won not because of the referees but because they have one of the 10 great players of all time and during their early runs had one of the 10 greatest big men of all time. Then they went out and replaced him with another fantastic big man in Gasol and Odom and Bynum also add a lot of size. The supporting cast is fantastic.

I don't see the Lakers and Celtic meeting again in the finals. Age is catching up to the Celtics and the Lakers are starting to show cracks.

I like the Heat and Bulls in the Eastern finals and that is a toss up on who wins.
Out west it is a little more difficult. If the Spurs and Lakers do the unthinkable and lose in the first round then it is going to be the wild west. I really do think the Thunder could win if that happens.

Feel free to stay and actually talk basketball. But if you are just going to stick and spout off Glen Beck style then please see yourself out of this thread.

jaxmagicman · 04-19-2011, 05:58 PM

You asked if anybody was watching and I am clearly stating why after so many years of basketball being my favorite sport I am not watching.

It is the same teams over and over. The same bad calls for the same players over and over. It might not be a conspiracy, but there is certainly a bias. Teams like Boston and LA automatically get an extra man out there every year.

SA had to be 120% better than the Lakers to move past them. It wasn't ok for them to just be better.

Chicagofan76 · 04-19-2011, 06:33 PM

How is the 7th largest city in USA a small market?
I do agree with Jax overall, stars run this league as do the refs. Last nights Bulls game they try to foul Loul Deng late in the 4th QTR. The guy practically raped Deng and they didnt call the foul til almost a full 3 secs came off the clock. Its nice to now the NBA wants Da Bulls to advance but that was way to obvious. I dont trust NBA refs when more then 1 have been accused of shaving calls, betting on games, etc.

as far as it goes seeing Boston vs LA again yeah because they r still the best 2 teams. Bulls, Heat, Spurs, Thunder havent proven anything yet. Mavs are known to choke. Orlando is struggling vs Atlanta and cant get past the top 3 east seeds.

Stars dont get calls against them its been that way atleast since MJ.
Its just 1 of those things while watching u just have to ignore and move on from.

kenyan_cheena · 04-19-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

NBA is the league with the least parity of all the sports. The reason is the refs have all the control. The stars get all the calls. The big cities get all the stars. The big cities get the most fans watching. So you can see why the NBA has had 1 unique champion in the last 11 years and only 8 different champs in the last 31 years.

It's also the league, along with the NHL, where it's the easiest to make the playoffs. It would be better if they allowed only 12 teams to make the playoffs, like the NFL.

CD1083 · 04-19-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

It's also the league, along with the NHL, where it's the easiest to make the playoffs. It would be better if they allowed only 12 teams to make the playoffs, like the NFL.

This is the reason why I don't watch the regular season. To me, it's pre-season. If you're not good enough to make the NBA playoffs than you're not good enough for me to care about.

The NBA playoffs are almost as long as the regular season anyhow so I don't miss much.

kenyan_cheena · 04-19-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase Davis

This is the reason why I don't watch the regular season. To me, it's pre-season. If you're not good enough to make the NBA playoffs than you're not good enough for me to care about.

The NBA playoffs are almost as long as the regular season anyhow so I don't miss much.

If it was up to me the playoffs would be "league wide" and the top twelve teams would make it in. Of those, the top four get a first round bye and the other eight take part in a best-of-3 first round played over five days, with the higher seed hosting the first two games and the third game at the other team's court if they are good enough to win one of the first two.

The second round would be best-of-5 in a 2-2-1 format with the semi-finals and final both best-of-7 in a 2-3-2 format, so that no one could complain about traveling regardless of the matchups.

Taking those conditions into account the top twelve teams and first round matchups would be:

1 Chicago 62-20
2 San Antonio 61-21
3 Miami 58-24
4 Los Angeles 57-25

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5 Dallas 57-25
6 Boston 56-26
7 Oklahoma City 55-27
8 Orlando 52-30
9 Denver 50-32
10 Portland 48-34
11 New Orleans 46-36
12 Memphis 46-36

1st round

5 Dallas v 12 Memphis
6 Boston v 11 New Orleans
7 Oklahoma City v 10 Portland
8 Orlando v 9 Denver

Potential 2nd round matchups

1 Chicago v 8 Orlando
2 San Antonio v 7 Oklahoma City
3 Miami v 6 Boston
4 Los Angeles v 5 Dallas

It might be more cutthroat, but it would also be more exciting, and give more meaning to the regular season. You also wouldn't have teams that are 8 games below .500 in the playoffs. It's ridiculous that - even though it won't happen - the Pacers actually have a chance to win the NBA championship.

CD1083 · 04-19-2011, 08:36 PM

You'd never EVER see a best of 3 in pro sports.

Best of 3 woud mean home, away, home which would be costly and tiring for those LA/NO series.

kenyan_cheena · 04-19-2011, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase Davis

You'd never EVER see a best of 3 in pro sports.

Best of 3 woud mean home, away, home which would be costly and tiring for those LA/NO series.

Well, as I said I'd have it in a 2-1 format, so that the lower seed has to earn its home game by winning one on the road. The way it is now is so drawn out and unnecessarily long. You've got two teams with a 25 game win difference playing each other in a best-of-7 series. How stupid is that?

The way it is now it's possible to play 28 games during the playoffs. Under my system that number is reduced to 22.

CD1083 · 04-19-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Well, as I said I'd have it in a 2-1 format, so that the lower seed has to earn its home game by winning one on the road. The way it is now is so drawn out and unnecessarily long. You've got two teams with a 25 game win difference playing each other in a best-of-7 series. How stupid is that?

The way it is now it's possible to play 28 games during the playoffs. Under my system that number is reduced to 22.

I don't like this because it's too much of an advantage to the number 1 seed. You can't have parody without upsets.

I'd say a better idea would be to get rid of the bye and knock off a round.

8 teams overall best of 7 throughout.

MorseMoose · 04-19-2011, 08:59 PM

By the time the NBA playoffs are over, baseball teams will have played 40% of their schedule. The NBA playoffs are way to frikkin' long.

04-18-2011, 06:22 PM	#1
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	2011 NBA Playoffs Every team has played at least one game now. Some surprise upsets, like Memphis over San Antonio and New Orleans winning over LA. New York and Boston had a good game yesterday and OKC and Denver played a very entertaining game. I cannot wait for them to continue that series. Anyone else watching?

04-19-2011, 01:42 PM	#3
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04-19-2011, 04:03 PM	#4
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	No reason to watch. It is going to be Boston and LA again. That is what the NBA wants. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

04-19-2011, 04:26 PM	#6
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I didn't know why they wanted it last year either. But you can watch the games without any allegiance and see which teams get the calls every game. When Paul Peirce does his little fake and someone jumps straight up and he jumps into them and they are called for a foul you can just sit back and know everything is going to go Boston's way. When Kobe Bryant pisses an moans up and down the court and nothing is done, but the Thunder get called for T for questioning a single call, you just know it is going to go LA's way. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved. Last edited by jaxmagicman; 04-19-2011 at 04:27 PM.

04-19-2011, 04:48 PM	#8
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	NBA is the league with the least parity of all the sports. The reason is the refs have all the control. The stars get all the calls. The big cities get all the stars. The big cities get the most fans watching. So you can see why the NBA has had 1 unique champion in the last 11 years and only 8 different champs in the last 31 years. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

04-18-2011, 08:07 PM	#2
CD1083 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,590	I've been watching. The Bulls/Pacers game was Excellent.

04-19-2011, 04:57 PM	#9
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 805	Been a devout Laker fan since '85. I'll watch the Lakers as much as this busy time of year allows. Will agree the NBA lacks the parity most of the other sports have, but it always has been that way going back to the 50-60's Celtics dynasty. The NBA officiated is indeed often inconsistent and not impartial, but it's not the reason for the lack of parity.

04-19-2011, 05:04 PM	#10
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Of course a Laker fan wouldn't think so. I have seen Kobe Bryant chase a ref up and down the court complaining about a call. Nothing is done. Then I have seen another player in the same game throw his hand up in frustration and get a T called on him. Sometimes at the most crucial time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4rAT3roUSk Here is the biggest star getting a call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36nT2...eature=related __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved. Last edited by jaxmagicman; 04-19-2011 at 05:06 PM.

04-19-2011, 05:29 PM	#11
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Jax, please don't ruin the thread with your tin foil hat conspiracy theories. In your schizoid rantings you did not mention that one of the teams that have won consistently over the last several years have been the San Antonio Spurs. They are a small market team with a boring style of play (up until this season) Why the NBA would want them to win makes no sense. Los Angeles has won not because of the referees but because they have one of the 10 great players of all time and during their early runs had one of the 10 greatest big men of all time. Then they went out and replaced him with another fantastic big man in Gasol and Odom and Bynum also add a lot of size. The supporting cast is fantastic. I don't see the Lakers and Celtic meeting again in the finals. Age is catching up to the Celtics and the Lakers are starting to show cracks. I like the Heat and Bulls in the Eastern finals and that is a toss up on who wins. Out west it is a little more difficult. If the Spurs and Lakers do the unthinkable and lose in the first round then it is going to be the wild west. I really do think the Thunder could win if that happens. Feel free to stay and actually talk basketball. But if you are just going to stick and spout off Glen Beck style then please see yourself out of this thread.

04-19-2011, 05:58 PM	#12
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	You asked if anybody was watching and I am clearly stating why after so many years of basketball being my favorite sport I am not watching. It is the same teams over and over. The same bad calls for the same players over and over. It might not be a conspiracy, but there is certainly a bias. Teams like Boston and LA automatically get an extra man out there every year. SA had to be 120% better than the Lakers to move past them. It wasn't ok for them to just be better. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

04-19-2011, 06:33 PM	#13
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	How is the 7th largest city in USA a small market? I do agree with Jax overall, stars run this league as do the refs. Last nights Bulls game they try to foul Loul Deng late in the 4th QTR. The guy practically raped Deng and they didnt call the foul til almost a full 3 secs came off the clock. Its nice to now the NBA wants Da Bulls to advance but that was way to obvious. I dont trust NBA refs when more then 1 have been accused of shaving calls, betting on games, etc. as far as it goes seeing Boston vs LA again yeah because they r still the best 2 teams. Bulls, Heat, Spurs, Thunder havent proven anything yet. Mavs are known to choke. Orlando is struggling vs Atlanta and cant get past the top 3 east seeds. Stars dont get calls against them its been that way atleast since MJ. Its just 1 of those things while watching u just have to ignore and move on from.

04-19-2011, 08:36 PM	#17
CD1083 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,590	You'd never EVER see a best of 3 in pro sports. Best of 3 woud mean home, away, home which would be costly and tiring for those LA/NO series.

04-19-2011, 08:59 PM	#20
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	By the time the NBA playoffs are over, baseball teams will have played 40% of their schedule. The NBA playoffs are way to frikkin' long.