OOTP 11 to be Released April 14th - Page 6

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 04:11 PM

2k's only real problem this year is fielding is still a bit wonkie. Honestly their "My Player" mode is almost totally equal than "Road to The Show". If your manager's AI when it comes to handleing pitchers was better I'd say it out ranks it. They need to do away with the 3rd party exclusitivity deal. That would bring console baseball back to possibly beng fantastic.

damientheomen3 · 04-02-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

2k's only real problem this year is fielding is still a bit wonkie. Honestly their "My Player" mode is almost totally equal than "Road to The Show". If your manager's AI when it comes to handleing pitchers was better I'd say it out ranks it. They need to do away with the 3rd party exclusitivity deal. That would bring console baseball back to possibly beng fantastic.

I've heard about terrible statistics in the season mode or w/e it's called, like the lowest ERA in the 5's and players hitting a crap load of bombs (one guy had Louis Castillo his i believe 25 in 1 season). I also think (i'm not sure since I haven't played a 2k game since 2k8) that the gameplay was basically either a home run or an out

fromamerica · 04-02-2010, 04:29 PM

excellent news, been waiting for the new version, 10 was great, 11 will be even greater!

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by damientheomen3

I've heard about terrible statistics in the season mode or w/e it's called, like the lowest ERA in the 5's and players hitting a crap load of bombs (one guy had Louis Castillo his i believe 25 in 1 season). I also think (i'm not sure since I haven't played a 2k game since 2k8) that the gameplay was basically either a home run or an out

It's possible. I've never been able to get into Franchise and season type modes in console baseball games. I just think no matter what the statistics are going to be messed up, at the very least for your team. Batting for me is as much about which batter is facing which hitter, and if one person is batting all the time (like a player) then their tenancies will always over ride a player's. So instead of watching Joe Mauer hit I'm watching Joe Mauer hit while using Matt Osika's brain. I'm pretty familiar with my brain and I for one don't trust it to accurately judge pitch type or location with the same ability of Joe Mauer.

damientheomen3 · 04-02-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

It's possible. I've never been able to get into Franchise and season type modes in console baseball games. I just think no matter what the statistics are going to be messed up, at the very least for your team. Batting for me is as much about which batter is facing which hitter, and if one person is batting all the time (like a player) then their tenancies will always over ride a player's. So instead of watching Joe Mauer hit I'm watching Joe Mauer hit while using Matt Osika's brain. I'm pretty familiar with my brain and I for one don't trust it to accurately judge pitch type or location with the same ability of Joe Mauer.

I meant when simming the season, not playing out games.

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by damientheomen3

I meant when simming the season, not playing out games.

True, but they aren't honestly made for that either. Their audience is typically looking for action. Those of us who want an accurate simulation tend to go with them for a little bit, but eventually get frustrated by limitations and problems with logic and end up playing OOTP.

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 04:49 PM

Heck as a matter of fact that is the entire story on why I play OOTP. lol. No console game ever gave me a real accurate simulation. I tried a demo for OOTP and literally fell in love the second I started it up.

damientheomen3 · 04-02-2010, 05:07 PM

Yeah, I liked MLBTS for a while since the stat accruacy was ok, but the terrible drafting engine and wonky free agency caused me to give up on it and go to OOTP. I now hate all other baseball games I've played, due to the "OOTP effect".

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 05:16 PM

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Yeah, I liked MLBTS for a while since the stat accruacy was ok, but the terrible drafting engine and wonky free agency caused me to give up on it and go to OOTP. I now hate all other baseball games I've played, due to the "OOTP effect".

There was a decent series back in the PS2-era called Allstar Baseball which I always used to like. They had a franchise mode where the MLB would expand by two teams and you'd control one of them. Chose from a dozen cities, a couple dozen names and even 7 or 8 different parks to play in. Stadiums were all heavily detailed, with working out of town scoreboards before they were standard in games, stadiums with retractable roofs would have their roofs open and close depending on the weather. If only the gameplay had been nearly as good.

gpellis · 04-02-2010, 05:46 PM

MLB The Show on PS3 plays a GREAT GAME of baseball, but franchise mode is screwed up...

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 05:51 PM

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MLB The Show on PS3 plays a GREAT GAME of baseball, but franchise mode is screwed up...

And see that's pretty much the same as 2k10. It's great for single play games but struggles in franchise mode. Defense is odd too. It works and everything, it's just every play is like it's the final out of the 9th. Got people diving and throwing mid air on routine grounders.

Raidergoo · 04-02-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Markus:

Also get at least 7 hours of sleep a day. Sleep's important, too.

Sleep is for the weak.

Cryomaniac · 04-02-2010, 07:23 PM

To mesh the console and OOTP discussion, I've said a few times that the ideal game for me would have OOTP's sim engine & customization and 2k Sports' graphics & gameplay. And if someone could make a version of that for American Football I don't think I'd ever leave the house lol.

Goodsox · 04-02-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

If I hadn't lost 5 weeks because of illness in December/January then we'd have the game released already. But well, that's life

Hey, I totally understand

I just hate giving my $ to any of these other garbage baseball games. Would rather just give it to you

megamanmatt · 04-02-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

To mesh the console and OOTP discussion, I've said a few times that the ideal game for me would have OOTP's sim engine & customization and 2k Sports' graphics & gameplay. And if someone could make a version of that for American Football I don't think I'd ever leave the house lol.

I think I may have said it once, but it's a testament to Markus at how great of a baseball game he makes with as little money and as small of team as he has for development. The simple fact a guy in Germany can put out a better game than companies with millions of dollar behind them, who also happen to come from the place that created the sport and claims it to be our national past-time is amazing.

Goodsox · 04-02-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Take care of yourself, Markus. Good health is important.

Absolutely!

kckid4u · 04-02-2010, 07:41 PM

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I'm more than old enough to be your father but I make sure I do all those things every day and I very rarely get ill and when I do it's usually trivial.

This from a guy who promotes platters of fajitas and beer.

Cras · 04-02-2010, 07:49 PM

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MLB The Show on PS3 plays a GREAT GAME of baseball, but franchise mode is screwed up...

Yhea, it is, but there are work arounds. Its the best baseball game I have ever played. But I should also say that I play out all my teams games, and it usualy takes me well into the winter to finally finish the season, so I really dont have any experience in off-season stuff at all. I have OOTP for that sort of thing.

The Show, no matter how people try to make it, is not built for simming and playing as a GM. There simply is no point in doing that. The game is built to play, and really play a full season everyday.

CD1083 · 04-02-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kckid4u

This from a guy who promotes platters of fajitas and beer.

Whats wrong with that? It's on the food pyramid...

Cryomaniac · 04-02-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

I think I may have said it once, but it's a testament to Markus at how great of a baseball game he makes with as little money and as small of team as he has for development. The simple fact a guy in Germany can put out a better game than companies with millions of dollar behind them, who also happen to come from the place that created the sport and claims it to be our national past-time is amazing.

Definitely. As a British guy (albeit one with a thing for US culture) I maybe don't have baseball as ingrained in my psyche as Americans do, but it does still amaze me that a German guy with basically no corporate backing can make a better sim engine than guys with stupid amounts of money. Having said that I do know a bit about the industry (I should, since my college major is Games Computing lol) and I get that the bigger companies do have (and need to have) different priorities to someone like Markus.

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Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	To mesh the console and OOTP discussion, I've said a few times that the ideal game for me would have OOTP's sim engine & customization and 2k Sports' graphics & gameplay. And if someone could make a version of that for American Football I don't think I'd ever leave the house lol. __________________

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megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	2k's only real problem this year is fielding is still a bit wonkie. Honestly their "My Player" mode is almost totally equal than "Road to The Show". If your manager's AI when it comes to handleing pitchers was better I'd say it out ranks it. They need to do away with the 3rd party exclusitivity deal. That would bring console baseball back to possibly beng fantastic.

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fromamerica Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	excellent news, been waiting for the new version, 10 was great, 11 will be even greater!

04-02-2010, 04:49 PM	#107
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Heck as a matter of fact that is the entire story on why I play OOTP. lol. No console game ever gave me a real accurate simulation. I tried a demo for OOTP and literally fell in love the second I started it up.

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gpellis Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 180	MLB The Show on PS3 plays a GREAT GAME of baseball, but franchise mode is screwed up...