Top Prospects

DHS23 · 12-13-2001, 01:26 PM

When does a top prospect stop being a top prospect in terms of major league playing time?

I was recently offered a trade by another league member in which he was saying a player on the top prospect list was better than one that wasn't on it, when the player that wasn't on it was younger, had better talent ratings, and better defense. I explained to him the reason he isn't considered a top prospect was because he had major league playing time already. Yet when talking to another friend about this, he informed me that the had a top prospect with 361 ABs, in fact it's his top prospect.

Here's the evidence: <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/team24pr.htm" target="_blank">Friend's top prospects</a> (note L. Lee)

<a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/1165.htm" target="_blank">Lee's player page</a>

<a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/team21pr.htm" target="_blank">My top prospects</a>

<a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/1830.htm" target="_blank">Sean Burrough's player page</a>

Note on my top prospect page Rudy Wegner (3B). This is the player another GM was trying to say was better than Burroughs.

So why wouldn't Burroughs be considered a top prospect, who is better than Wegner?

markeschen · 12-13-2001, 01:38 PM

Educated guess: Burroughs had experience in 2001. It is now 2004. I think it may have to do with the fact that three years have passed since his debut. Therefore Burroughs is not listed on the top prospect report. Lee is only one year removed from his MLB experience. I would doubt that Burroughes is the weaker prospect.

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: markeschen ]

DHS23 · 12-13-2001, 01:40 PM

[quote]Originally posted by markeschen:
Educated guess: Burroughs had experience in 2001. It is now 2004. I think it may have to do with the fact that three years have passed since his debut. Lee is only one year removed from his MLB experience.<hr></blockquote>

I recall that once Burroughs had his big league experience, he no longer was considered a top prospect.

dnic · 12-13-2001, 01:59 PM

I believe once they are not considered a rookie anymore they come off the top prospect list also age has something to do with it. I have has awesome older rookies in a fictional league that never showed up in the prospect lists

DHS23 · 12-13-2001, 02:17 PM

[quote]Originally posted by dnic:
I believe once they are not considered a rookie anymore they come off the top prospect list also age has something to do with it. I have has awesome older rookies in a fictional league that never showed up in the prospect lists<hr></blockquote>

So why is Lee still considered a top prospect?

Becks910 · 12-13-2001, 02:41 PM

I wouldn't consider 24 old (in response to why Lee is still a top prospect)

DHS23 · 12-14-2001, 05:50 PM

Cooley? OOTP1? Markus (Ok, I doubt you'll say anything pertaining to this subject)? ANYONE?

Steve Kuffrey · 12-14-2001, 06:31 PM

I don't not know what the criteria are for "Top Prospects".

Killebrew · 12-14-2001, 07:21 PM

[quote]Originally posted by DHS23:
When does a top prospect stop being a top prospect in terms of major league playing time?

I was recently offered a trade by another league member in which he was saying a player on the top prospect list was better than one that wasn't on it, when the player that wasn't on it was younger, had better talent ratings, and better defense. I explained to him the reason he isn't considered a top prospect was because he had major league playing time already. Yet when talking to another friend about this, he informed me that the had a top prospect with 361 ABs, in fact it's his top prospect.

Here's the evidence: <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/team24pr.htm" target="_blank">Friend's top prospects</a> (note L. Lee)

<a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/1165.htm" target="_blank">Lee's player page</a>

<a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/team21pr.htm" target="_blank">My top prospects</a>

<a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/1830.htm" target="_blank">Sean Burrough's player page</a>

Note on my top prospect page Rudy Wegner (3B). This is the player another GM was trying to say was better than Burroughs.

So why wouldn't Burroughs be considered a top prospect, who is better than Wegner?<hr></blockquote>

The answer is because of the scouts. The listed ratings and talents are very erratic (on purpose) when using scouts, and I would assume that Burroughs is really not as good as any of the others on that top 10 prospect list. By this I mean I'd trust the top 10 list more than the scouts opinion on Burroughs player page.

Aussie Mark · 12-14-2001, 10:24 PM

[quote]Originally posted by OOTP1:
I don't not know what the criteria are for "Top Prospects".<hr></blockquote>

No older than 25. Salary not higher than $100k

[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: Aussie Mark ]

12-13-2001, 01:26 PM	#1
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	Top Prospects When does a top prospect stop being a top prospect in terms of major league playing time? I was recently offered a trade by another league member in which he was saying a player on the top prospect list was better than one that wasn't on it, when the player that wasn't on it was younger, had better talent ratings, and better defense. I explained to him the reason he isn't considered a top prospect was because he had major league playing time already. Yet when talking to another friend about this, he informed me that the had a top prospect with 361 ABs, in fact it's his top prospect. Here's the evidence: <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/team24pr.htm" target="_blank">Friend's top prospects</a> (note L. Lee) <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/1165.htm" target="_blank">Lee's player page</a> <a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/team21pr.htm" target="_blank">My top prospects</a> <a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/1830.htm" target="_blank">Sean Burrough's player page</a> Note on my top prospect page Rudy Wegner (3B). This is the player another GM was trying to say was better than Burroughs. So why wouldn't Burroughs be considered a top prospect, who is better than Wegner?

12-13-2001, 01:38 PM	#2
markeschen Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Bruno, CA Posts: 53	Educated guess: Burroughs had experience in 2001. It is now 2004. I think it may have to do with the fact that three years have passed since his debut. Therefore Burroughs is not listed on the top prospect report. Lee is only one year removed from his MLB experience. I would doubt that Burroughes is the weaker prospect. [ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: markeschen ]</p> __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Here's to the Giants . . . . . serving heaps of frustration since 1954 . . . .

12-13-2001, 01:40 PM	#3
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	[quote]Originally posted by markeschen: <strong>Educated guess: Burroughs had experience in 2001. It is now 2004. I think it may have to do with the fact that three years have passed since his debut. Lee is only one year removed from his MLB experience.</strong><hr></blockquote> I recall that once Burroughs had his big league experience, he no longer was considered a top prospect.

12-13-2001, 01:59 PM	#4
dnic Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 33	I believe once they are not considered a rookie anymore they come off the top prospect list also age has something to do with it. I have has awesome older rookies in a fictional league that never showed up in the prospect lists __________________ Dan Nicol Sharecroppers - HTB A's - BOS Stogies - Hybrid

12-13-2001, 02:17 PM	#5
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	[quote]Originally posted by dnic: <strong>I believe once they are not considered a rookie anymore they come off the top prospect list also age has something to do with it. I have has awesome older rookies in a fictional league that never showed up in the prospect lists</strong><hr></blockquote> So why is Lee still considered a top prospect?

12-13-2001, 02:41 PM	#6
Becks910 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 23	I wouldn't consider 24 old (in response to why Lee is still a top prospect) __________________ David Becker <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/sbb/vesuvius/CBL/Main/CBLindex.htm" target="_blank">CBL Baltimore Orioles GM</a> <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/Cyclones/AFBL.html" target="_blank">AFBL Chairman</a>

12-14-2001, 05:50 PM	#7
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	Cooley? OOTP1? Markus (Ok, I doubt you'll say anything pertaining to this subject)? ANYONE?

12-14-2001, 06:31 PM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I don't not know what the criteria are for "Top Prospects". __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

12-14-2001, 07:21 PM	#9
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	[quote]Originally posted by DHS23: <strong>When does a top prospect stop being a top prospect in terms of major league playing time? I was recently offered a trade by another league member in which he was saying a player on the top prospect list was better than one that wasn't on it, when the player that wasn't on it was younger, had better talent ratings, and better defense. I explained to him the reason he isn't considered a top prospect was because he had major league playing time already. Yet when talking to another friend about this, he informed me that the had a top prospect with 361 ABs, in fact it's his top prospect. Here's the evidence: <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/team24pr.htm" target="_blank">Friend's top prospects</a> (note L. Lee) <a href="http://sportplanet.com/sbb/mlb1966/html/1165.htm" target="_blank">Lee's player page</a> <a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/team21pr.htm" target="_blank">My top prospects</a> <a href="http://www.gamershomepage.com/fbbl/1830.htm" target="_blank">Sean Burrough's player page</a> Note on my top prospect page Rudy Wegner (3B). This is the player another GM was trying to say was better than Burroughs. So why wouldn't Burroughs be considered a top prospect, who is better than Wegner?</strong><hr></blockquote> The answer is because of the scouts. The listed ratings and talents are very erratic (on purpose) when using scouts, and I would assume that Burroughs is really not as good as any of the others on that top 10 prospect list. By this I mean I'd trust the top 10 list more than the scouts opinion on Burroughs player page. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

12-14-2001, 10:24 PM	#10
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489	[quote]Originally posted by OOTP1: <strong>I don't not know what the criteria are for "Top Prospects".</strong><hr></blockquote> No older than 25. Salary not higher than $100k [ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: Aussie Mark ]</p> __________________ Cheers Mark