Randy Moss

PerfectMisnomer · 09-09-2007, 02:53 PM

Welcome to New England!

Midway into the 3rd: 6 receptions, 157 yards, 1 TD

Just caught a 60 yard bomb where he beat the hell out of three Jets' secondary players.

magnet · 09-09-2007, 02:54 PM

See? All he needed was someone who could get him the ball!

MorseMoose · 09-09-2007, 02:55 PM

Yea, baby...

magnet · 09-09-2007, 02:58 PM

Andre Johnson is carrying my Fantasy team as of this moment. 4 catches, 116 yards, 1 TD. That's 17.6 fantasy points!

marc · 09-09-2007, 04:16 PM

I wonder when he'll pay Oakland back for robbing them for 2 years.

Jonzard · 09-09-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

See? All he needed was someone who could get him the ball!

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Still a monster.

MorseMoose · 09-09-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

I wonder when he'll pay Oakland back for robbing them for 2 years.

Don't blame Moss for his years in Oakland, you gotta look at what was around him. You can't stick the best WR on a team that sucks and except him to change everything. If you don't have anyone throwing to the best WR, what do you expect?

Jonzard · 09-09-2007, 04:26 PM

It's going to be funny watching the east coast media do a 180 on Moss.

Erik W. · 09-09-2007, 04:27 PM

Brady to Moss is shaping up to be the connection NE fans were hoping, for sure. Very impressive first game together.

marc · 09-09-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

what do you expect?

Some sort of effort? He was making about 100 mil after all. I don't blame every player that plays on a bad team for having their numbers go down but it was blatantly obvious he didn't give a crap and gave up. There are lots of players who put up respectable numbers on horrible teams.

Now that he's on a good team and is essentially playing for a new contract he magically throws up 150 yds on a "bad hammy"? Sorry not buying it.

I always say, "Never bet against Vince Carter in a contract year" same goes for Moss.

MorseMoose · 09-09-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Some sort of effort? He was making about 100 mil after all. I don't blame every player that plays on a bad team for having their numbers go down but it was blatantly obvious he didn't give a crap and gave up. There are lots of players who put up respectable numbers on horrible teams.

Now that he's on a good team and is essentially playing for a new contract he magically throws up 150 yds on a "bad hammy"? Sorry not buying it.

I always say, "Never bet against Vince Carter in a contract year" same goes for Moss.

It's not like the Raiders didn't know what they were getting when they traded for him.

Prodigal Son · 09-09-2007, 04:45 PM

I think Randy had more of a beef with the front office about their effort than vice versa.

rudel.dietrich · 09-09-2007, 05:15 PM

I was ridiculed for calling Moss one of the top 5 receivers in football a year ago

He has been in the top 5 since he entered the league
He has just suffered some years from not playing in offenses worth a damn

marc · 09-09-2007, 05:17 PM

Moss hasn't been a top 5 WR in the NFL since 2003. Maybe he will jump back into it this year but from 04-06 he was NOT a top 5 guy, no matter how bad the QB was that was throwing to him.

USN Squid · 09-10-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Now that he's on a good team and is essentially playing for a new contract he magically throws up 150 yds on a "bad hammy"? Sorry not buying it.

Belichick came out after the game and said he knew Moss would be playing the opener soon after the injury...which was in June. That means quite simply that Belichick wasn't allowing Randy to play in order to let him properly rehab and possibly not tip his hand.

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Originally Posted by marc

Moss hasn't been a top 5 WR in the NFL since 2003. Maybe he will jump back into it this year but from 04-06 he was NOT a top 5 guy, no matter how bad the QB was that was throwing to him.

Marc, if you don't see the difference between Kerry Collins / Andrew Walter throwing him the ball and Tom Brady throwing him the ball, I don't know what to tell you.

Sounds like a severe case of sour grapes.

andjbock · 09-10-2007, 03:27 PM

I didn't think Moss looked very good honestly. Seemed like he could have played better. Maybe it's just a deceiving look.

PerfectMisnomer · 09-10-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by andjbock

I didn't think Moss looked very good honestly. Seemed like he could have played better. Maybe it's just a deceiving look.

Definitely deception. Throughout the entire game I was saying "he looks slow", but then you realize he's just more swift and can outrun anyone on the field on any play.

darkhorse · 09-10-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

I wonder when he'll pay Oakland back for robbing them for 2 years.

Flipside, perhaps Moss should sue them for robbing him of two years from his career.

marc · 09-10-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by USN Squid

Marc, if you don't see the difference between Kerry Collins / Andrew Walter throwing him the ball and Tom Brady throwing him the ball, I don't know what to tell you.

Sounds like a severe case of sour grapes.

I'm not talking about statistics, if you actually WATCHED him play he wasn't even trying. If you want to discuss some stats though, feel free to look at some really bad teams and you'll find plenty of receivers who were able to put up respectable numbers on those teams. Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin immediately come to mind and I'm sure there are more examples of guys who still give a crap even if their teams are bad.

Why would I have sour grapes?

I hate the Raiders. I just know when a guy is playing hard and when he's packed it in and Moss packed in the last year and a half he was in Oakland.

Skipaway · 09-10-2007, 10:16 PM

You can say Moss did get punished for not trying though, considering the significant pay cut in his new deal with the Patriots. From his perspective, it's more or less fair. Now maybe Raiders can ask Patriots for some money then it'd be all good........

09-09-2007, 02:53 PM	#1
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marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	I wonder when he'll pay Oakland back for robbing them for 2 years. __________________

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Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	It's going to be funny watching the east coast media do a 180 on Moss. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

09-09-2007, 04:27 PM	#9
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Brady to Moss is shaping up to be the connection NE fans were hoping, for sure. Very impressive first game together. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

09-09-2007, 05:17 PM	#14
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Moss hasn't been a top 5 WR in the NFL since 2003. Maybe he will jump back into it this year but from 04-06 he was NOT a top 5 guy, no matter how bad the QB was that was throwing to him. __________________

09-09-2007, 02:54 PM	#2
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	See? All he needed was someone who could get him the ball!

09-09-2007, 02:55 PM	#3
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Yea, baby...

09-09-2007, 02:58 PM	#4
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	Andre Johnson is carrying my Fantasy team as of this moment. 4 catches, 116 yards, 1 TD. That's 17.6 fantasy points!

09-09-2007, 04:45 PM	#12
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	I think Randy had more of a beef with the front office about their effort than vice versa.

09-09-2007, 05:15 PM	#13
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I was ridiculed for calling Moss one of the top 5 receivers in football a year ago He has been in the top 5 since he entered the league He has just suffered some years from not playing in offenses worth a damn

09-10-2007, 03:27 PM	#16
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	I didn't think Moss looked very good honestly. Seemed like he could have played better. Maybe it's just a deceiving look.

09-10-2007, 10:16 PM	#20
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	You can say Moss did get punished for not trying though, considering the significant pay cut in his new deal with the Patriots. From his perspective, it's more or less fair. Now maybe Raiders can ask Patriots for some money then it'd be all good........ __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.