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Old 05-11-2025, 11:01 PM   #5901
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Eddie Dyer 1924

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Been working to try to make something out of this but so far, everything has come out in "monster mode". I went back to what I assume is the original here. That one was maybe slightly better but still pretty bad. I'm thinking that pulling him from that "Little Four" photo on the same page might give a better result.
The problem with that is he is wearing the 1923 uniform so as I take the viewpoint that uniforms run from opening day to opening day not by chronological year, I would assign that image as representative of 1923. That said that the option from the standing Bradenton team photo where Dyer is on the extreme left may well give better results for 1923.

Having seen some of the superb outcomes you have obtained from images extracted from team photos, how about doing the same for Dyer, if possible, from the 1924 St. Louis Cardinals team photo, again from the same page, where he is standing in the top row second from left. Incidentally is that the earliest, or indeed first, team photo that exists where players uniform numbers are clearly visible?

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Old 05-12-2025, 01:04 PM   #5902
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Eddie Dyer 1924

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Been working to try to make something out of this but so far, everything has come out in "monster mode". I went back to what I assume is the original here. That one was maybe slightly better but still pretty bad. I'm thinking that pulling him from that "Little Four" photo on the same page might give a better result.
I had been kicking this one around as well. I ran the image through my 2 upscalers one after another and then used Palette to colorize. The upscalers read glasses from the image and rendered a rather fine looking pair of spectacles.
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Old 05-12-2025, 01:22 PM   #5903
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Eddie Dyer 1924

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Having seen some of the superb outcomes you have obtained from images extracted from team photos, how about doing the same for Dyer, if possible, from the 1924 St. Louis Cardinals team photo, again from the same page, where he is standing in the top row second from left. Incidentally is that the earliest, or indeed first, team photo that exists where players uniform numbers are clearly visible?

Good call. Unlike the other one, this one clearly looks like Dyer. Unfortunately, the cap stripes were washed out to the point of invisibility.
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Old 05-12-2025, 03:19 PM   #5904
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The upscalers read glasses from the image and rendered a rather fine looking pair of spectacles.

AI programmers must be sharing some code. I saw the same thing on the Topaz apps when I bumped up the regenerative settings to try to get a better face.


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Old 05-13-2025, 04:08 AM   #5905
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Good call. Unlike the other one, this one clearly looks like Dyer. Unfortunately, the cap stripes were washed out to the point of invisibility.
Thanks to both of you for your efforts and most interesting outcomes.

Harper spilt the 1924 season between the Reds and the Philadelphia Phillies. An image of him with the Reds has been previously colorized, here he is with the Phillies.
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Old 05-13-2025, 11:39 AM   #5906
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Howie Gorman 1937

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Old 05-13-2025, 11:46 AM   #5907
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Walter Stephenson 1935

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Old 05-13-2025, 06:46 PM   #5908
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Hank Behrman - ca1946

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Old 05-15-2025, 01:31 PM   #5909
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Old 05-16-2025, 01:18 PM   #5910
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Harper spilt the 1924 season between the Reds and the Philadelphia Phillies. An image of him with the Reds has been previously colorized, here he is with the Phillies.

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Cap logo obviously pasted on...couldn't quite get a natural look on that.
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Old 05-16-2025, 02:03 PM   #5911
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Andy Rush 1925

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Old 05-16-2025, 04:17 PM   #5912
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Johnny Gooch 1921

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Cap logo obviously pasted on...couldn't quite get a natural look on that.
Thank you for the excellent outcome in respect of the Harper image.

Thanks also for the Rush colorization and yes that is Shag Shaugnessy.

Here is a 1924 image of Pittsburgh Pirates catcher Johnny Gooch from 1924.

Switch hitter and right handed throwing catcher Gooch made his Major League debut in 1921 with the Pirates, in September appearing in 13 games. In 1922 he took over from Walter Schmidt as the Pittsburgh starting catcher appearing in 105 games with impressive figures of .329 batting and .403 on-base averages. He also set career highs in total bases with 140, slugging .397 and an OPS of .800. For the next 4 seasons Gooch was relegated to a back-up role, initially to 36 year old Schmidt and then to Earl Smith. In 1927 he regained the starting role appearing in over 100 games for the second time in his career, posting a career high of 48 RBI. On June 8, 1928 he was traded along with Joe Harris to Brooklyn for Charlie Hargreaves who took on the starting catcher role with Pittsburgh. Hargreaves had become expendable in Brooklyn with the emergence of Hank DeBerry. However early in 1929 Brooklyn required another upgrade at Catcher and traded for Val Picinich from the Cincinnati Reds trading Gooch and Rube Ehrhardt in return. Gooch took the opportunity to establish himself in the starting role at Cincinnati batting .300. In 1930 Clyde Sukeforth became the starter with the Reds and Gooch appeared in 82 games as a substitute. Subsequently Gooch did not appear again in the Majors until appearing in 37 games in his final season with 1933 Boston Red Sox.
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Old 05-17-2025, 11:27 PM   #5913
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Walt Kinney 1918

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Charlie Gooch 1929

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Johnny Gooch 1921

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Kent Greenfield 1924

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John Beverley Gooch upscaled and colorized with the Pittsburgh Pirates. credit goes out to deepnostalgia
Very much appreciate the excellent result in respect of the Johnny Gooch image.

Attached is a 1924 image of Kent Greenfield from his rookie year with the New York Giants.

Right handed pitcher appeared in the Major Leagues for 6 consecutive seasons commencing with a single start where he pitched 3 innings for the Giants. The late season appearance was on 28th September and he gave up 8 runs, 5 of which were earned. He started 20 games for the 1925 Giants posting a 12-8 record, including 12 complete games. That was the best winning percentage of his career. In 1926 he recorded the first of two consecutive seasons where he won a career high of 13 games. In 1926 he also started a career high of 28 games and 222 plus innings pitched. In 1927 after starting the season with the Giants, 11 of his wins were recorded with the Boston Braves. With the 1928 Braves he just posted 3 wins from his 20 starts. in 1929 his starts were spread equally between the Braves and Brooklyn Dodgers, but he failed to record any decision.
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Old 05-20-2025, 02:37 PM   #5918
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Here is a 1924 image of Pittsburgh Pirates catcher Johnny Gooch from 1924.

Krantzbucks beat me to it with a typically stellar rendition.


Since I had just finished mine, I'll go ahead and post it as well. I found a version of the same image on ebay that had a little better face to work with and additional jersey.


FWIW, there's another ebay shot of Gooch that is supposedly from 1924. I've attached an enlarged crop. Ebay original is here.
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