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Old 12-08-2021, 02:52 PM   #1541
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Another one not in the database... Rob Andrews (1975-79)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=andrew003rob

No idea what picture I used since almost everything I find with facial hair has a shadow...
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Old 12-08-2021, 04:45 PM   #1542
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“Gus Weyhing is one of the swiftest pitchers in the business. He is, comparatively speaking, a small man and his appearance gives no indication of the muscular power necessary to manipulate the ball at the speed with which he delivers it.”1

The 145-pound Weyhing was a true rabble rouser, often as mischievous off the field as he was wild in the pitcher’s box. The mustachioed twirler put together a career that might appear Hall of Fame-worthy at first blush, considering his lofty win total (264) and innings pitched (4,337). His legacy, however, is as the all-time major league leader in hit batsmen with 277, a record that has remained unassailed since Weyhing last plunked a batter in 1901.

On what would have been Weyhing’s 107th birthday, the Chicago Tribune recalled that Weyhing had, after his playing days, worked as a saloonkeeper—just like his father—in Cincinnati. When business soured, “the sheriff notified Gus that he’d have to vacate the place by July 1. Weyhing put a sign in the window: ‘The first of July will be the last of August.’ You have to like a guy like that.” - SABR

Redid the facegen. I found the "before" in the pack with an old "-gus suffix".
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Old 12-08-2021, 04:48 PM   #1543
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Bobby Mathews

Bobby Mathews, nearly forgotten today, was one of the top pitchers of the early professional era despite his small stature (5 feet 5½ inches tall, weight about 140 pounds). Between 1871 and 1887, he won nearly 300 games, 297 to be exact – more than any pitcher not inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. His exclusion is perhaps based on the fact that the bulk of those victories were accrued in the National Association and the American Association, leagues often brushed aside by Hall of Fame voters.

Mathews was the best native Baltimore player before Babe Ruth. Besides the highs normally attributed to the diamond exploits of a top athlete – which include being one of the first to master the curveball and throwing the game’s first spitball, Mathews’ career was also beset with a few negatives. He was known to have “careless habits,” which most would assume meant excessive drinking and poor conditioning. It does, but it could also have extended connotations. For one, he was a member of the controversial New York Mutuals, who had a reputation for gambling-related offenses. Mathews’ reputation did not emerge unscathed from this association. Secondly, he suffered complete and rapid mental deterioration, a malady that was likely attributable to syphilis, soon after leaving the big leagues. He passed at age 46, penniless, a physical wreck, and "ha[ving] lost one of Dame Nature’s priceless jewels – memory." - SABR

The first screenshot is the fg from an old Facepack, the second from the current Facepack and the third my tweaking of the one in the pack - mostly narrowing of the face to better align with the available photos.
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Old 12-08-2021, 05:24 PM   #1544
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Amazing, thanks!
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:40 PM   #1545
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Marv Goodwin

Marv Goodwin’s professional baseball career began with great promise in the spring of 1916. With a blazing fastball, a puzzling spitball, and great control, the young man showed the potential to become a major league star. He was one of the 17 pitchers to benefit from the spitter’s “grandfather clause,” throwing the wet one legally after the pitch was otherwise outlawed in the majors. Yet just ten years into his pro career, his life came to a tragic end. Goodwin perished in a plane crash, his early potential left largely unfulfilled.

The tragedy struck only two weeks after Goodwin pitched his final game for the Reds. Following his wartime service Marvin had remained in the Army Air Service Reserve. On October 18 First Lieutenant Marvin Goodwin, an excellent flyer, took a plane up at Ellington Field, Texas. At an altitude of 200 feet the plane went into a tailspin and crashed. Early reports said that only the pilot’s superb handling of the plane saved his life and that of his mechanic, Staff Sgt. W. H. McGrath, who suffered only slight injuries. Three days after the crash, Goodwin succumbed to his injuries. The Sporting News paid tribute: “Marvin was a gentleman and an athlete of whom baseball can be proud… Lieutenant Goodwin sacrificed his life in behalf of his country. No person can do more.” - SABR

I didn't see the "before" picture that The_Game posted in his screenshot in the CU Facepack. In fact, I didn't see any fg for him. But here's a new one. I had to smooth out a lot of shadows.
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Old 12-08-2021, 09:44 PM   #1546
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Haven't found him in the database... Bob Beall (1975-80)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=beall-002rob

The picture came very red after the conversion, I adjusted the best I could but it could need some more tweeking since the face is a little bit yellow (yeah I'm the guilty one for all those old yellow FG).

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Old 12-09-2021, 12:21 AM   #1547
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Willie McGill

In 1889 at the age of 15, diminutive southpaw Willie McGill graduated from the Chicago sandlots to the Evansville (Indiana) Hoosiers in the Central Interstate League. He defeated the Davenport Hawkeyes in his first outing. The following year he joined the Cleveland Infants in the Players’ League and had 11 wins under his belt before his 17th birthday. In 1891 he signed with Cincinnati’s Kelly’s Killers in the rough-and-tumble American Association. He pitched Opening Day for them, making him most likely the youngest pitcher to do so in major league history.1

Alas, McGill’s short stint with the Killers led indirectly to tragedy: His father died in a rail accident while coming to the aid of young Willie, who’d been arrested after a drunken assault. Thomas McGill served as a mentor/agent for his son. It also appears that he was Willie’s number one fan and endeavored to see his son play when possible. We will never know what would have transpired had Thomas lived to confront Willie about his drinking. Could he have said or done anything to keep the young man from further incidents?

Intemperance continued to plague McGill in 1892 as his life and career spiraled downward. Thankfully his mother and friends in baseball brought him back to reality; he managed to stay on the straight and narrow after that. He compiled a lifetime mark of 71-73 in the majors through 1896. Although he was just 22 when he pitched his last big-league game, he continued in the minors through 1905 and semipro ball well beyond that. - SABR

The game adds some of his drinkin' weight. Redid the facegen.
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Old 12-09-2021, 11:00 AM   #1548
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Any chance we could get a new Sammy Sosa? The eyes seem a hair too far apart, and the skin tone looks a little off on both that I have.
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Old 12-09-2021, 04:37 PM   #1549
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Sammy Sosa

Who is the real Sammy Sosa? Is he the charismatic slugger whose home-run race with Mark McGwire brought baseball’s fandom back from the ruins of the 1994 strike? Is he the Dominican shoeshine boy from a poverty-stricken family who became a hero in his country and the United States? Is he a steroid cheater who has never confessed? Is he the egotistical clubhouse cancer who walked out on his team during the last game of the 2004 season? This complex man was one of the most popular and controversial players of his time.

Nobody else has hit 60 home runs in three different seasons. Yet he didn’t lead the league in any one of them. In the five-year period from 1998 through 2002 he hit 292 home runs, an average of 58 a year. Nobody has even come close, either clean or chemically assisted. He had seasons of 158 and 160 RBIs, and 10.3 WAR. He was an All-Star seven times and an MVP. His 609 home runs are the eighth highest of all time. Yet he’s never been selected on more than 12.5 percent of Hall of Fame ballots. He barely remains on the list with only 8.6 percent in his fifth year of eligibility. - SABR

Here's the issue with Sammy and facegens... the weight in OOTP is high. I've posted an adjustment request for Lukas here: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...=1#post4848778

Until that's done, any fg will be bloated. This one was designed with ta lower weight even if the 165 lbs now listed at bRef is too low. It does seem light for Sammy but sure makes the fg better - and hopefully the bRef data load or internal database authorities will roll it back off the 220lbs in there in 22 and correct it in OOTP23. Trusting it does - even a 210lb weight makes a world of difference in the fg's presentation in the game. Sammy's face got wider as he aged but I didn't go that wide. Oddly, if you Google-up Sammy now, he has a Michael Jackson thing going on which is just... odd. Anyway, I reviewed late 90 colorings through various sources before settling on a complexion shade. As always, the current CU Facepack is on the left (or above) and mine thereafter.
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Old 12-09-2021, 04:52 PM   #1550
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This looks so much better, thanx! Yeah, when I was looking online for a good Sammy photo, his complexion now...like he just saw a ghost while getting a facial.

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Who is the real Sammy Sosa? Is he the charismatic slugger whose home-run race with Mark McGwire brought baseball’s fandom back from the ruins of the 1994 strike? Is he the Dominican shoeshine boy from a poverty-stricken family who became a hero in his country and the United States? Is he a steroid cheater who has never confessed? Is he the egotistical clubhouse cancer who walked out on his team during the last game of the 2004 season? This complex man was one of the most popular and controversial players of his time.

Nobody else has hit 60 home runs in three different seasons. Yet he didn’t lead the league in any one of them. In the five-year period from 1998 through 2002 he hit 292 home runs, an average of 58 a year. Nobody has even come close, either clean or chemically assisted. He had seasons of 158 and 160 RBIs, and 10.3 WAR. He was an All-Star seven times and an MVP. His 609 home runs are the eighth highest of all time. Yet he’s never been selected on more than 12.5 percent of Hall of Fame ballots. He barely remains on the list with only 8.6 percent in his fifth year of eligibility. - SABR

Here's the issue with Sammy and facegens... the weight in OOTP is incorrect. I've posted a correction for Lukas here: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...=1#post4848778

Until that's done, any fg will be bloated. This one was designed with the weight correct at 165 lbs. Which seems light for Sammy but sure makes the fg better - and hopefully the bRef data load or internal database authorities will roll it back off the 220lbs in there in 22 and correct it in OOTP23. Trusting it does. Sammy's face got wider as he aged but I didn't go that wide. Oddly, if you Google-up Sammy now, he has a Michael Jackson thing going on which is just... odd. Anyway, I reviewed late 90 colorings through various sources before settling on a complexion shade. As always, the current CU Facepack is on the left (or above) and mine thereafter.
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Old 12-09-2021, 05:58 PM   #1551
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Jack Martin

Jack Martin, a slick-fielding but light-hitting shortstop, began the 1914 season with the Boston Braves but was traded away just before the last-place team began its drive for the National League pennant. He spent only two years in the major leagues but was a longtime minor-league player and manager. When the Yankee Alumni Association was founded in 1977, investigation revealed that Martin was the oldest living ex-Yankee. “I never lost my enthusiasm for baseball,” he said. “It was a tremendous thrill when Mr. (George) Steinbrenner started the Yankee Alumni Association. When they sent me the alumni pen it was one of the highlights of my life.” Until he was in his 90s he attended old-timer games, where he enjoyed being introduced as the oldest living former New York Yankee. After having been introduced to a crowd at Yankee Stadium on June 21, 1977, he suffered a heart attack. He was taken to Montefiore Hospital in the Bronx and was never able to leave. While in the hospital he gave out autographed pictures of himself to the doctors and nurses. On the Fourth of July 1980, Jack Martin died at the age of 93.

Had to smooth this one to remove the shadows and was tougher than usual to color. Closed his mouth in the source file in Adobe before making the fg - but shown is the original photo. Didn't see an fg for him in the CU Facepack. Sorry I'm falling behind on these, luckymann
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Old 12-09-2021, 06:08 PM   #1552
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Don't sweat it brother, you're doing an amazing job keeping everyone happy. I'll take what I get when I get it.

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Joe Kutina

Joe Kutina played two seasons as the first baseman for the St. Louis Browns from 1911-12. Joe was featured in an article in the March 11, 1912 issue of The Bridgeport Evening Farmer. He told a story about how he arrived at second base on a play, and the second baseman dropped the ball. As the umpire started to sweep the plate, the ball came to Joe, who threw it into the outfield while the umpire wasn't looking. He and the runner at third then scored. The umpire insisted on putting Joe and the other baserunner back on base. Joe was fined by the club and given a one-day suspension. - bRef Bullpen wiki

There were two photos to use and one was a side-view from a baseball card. Did the best I could with what was there starting with the photo of him looking up... but honestly, we'll never know precisely how big a chin or wide a face he had based on such photos... So, we do the best we can... The "before" also had the wrong suffix, using -joe instead of -jos
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Tommy McMillan

In the spring of 1904, Hughey Jennings was the coach of the Cornell University team as well as player-manager for the Baltimore Orioles. Over the Easter break, he brought the Cornell team to Atlanta for a series of games. Tommy's father and Jennings were old friends and he invited Jennings to a Georgia Tech practice to check out his 16-year-old son. Of young Tommy McMillan, Jennings said, "[He] is an easy graceful infielder, never fights a grounder but always takes each as it comes. This is always the touch of a natural ball player. There is no effort in his work and yet he gets over the ground and manages to flag just about everything that comes his way." Nicknamed Rebel, Tommy eventually made the majors and played shortstop for five seasons from 1908 to 1912 for the Brooklyn Superbas, Cincinnati Reds, and New York Highlanders. His overall baseball career stretched extended to 1929 when he at last retired at age 41.

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Larry Johnson

I didn't find him in the database so here we go... the picture I used had an open mouth so it isn't perfect (I don't have the outside tools to fix that) but it's better than nothing.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=johnso002lar
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Old 12-10-2021, 09:41 PM   #1556
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Larry Johnson

Larry Doby Johnson played seven of his 12 major league games with the Expos in 1975 and 1976 and recorded his sole big-league RBI and his only two doubles with the Expos. Johnson also played briefly with the Cleveland Indians (was their 9th round pick 1968 draft) and Chicago White Sox. His son, Josh, played ten years in the minors before going into coaching.

Thanks to AESP_pres for putting this facegen on a silver platter for me. I couldn't resist doing some de-purpling as the tint on the source file bled through a bit and also widening the cheeks a bit.
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I probably check badly since he played many years but I didn't find Gary Alexander in the database. This is the FG who was in my personal FG folder...

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Hector Cruz

I won't lie, I post that one but it needs a lot of work to be acceptable for the FG pack. He is in the database but with sunglasses so he looks like he got in a fight the night before.
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Stan Wall

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Old 12-11-2021, 01:51 PM   #1560
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Free-swinging Gary Alexander, catcher then designated hitter, figured prominently in the Indians 1980 plans. He had a poor year defensively in 1979 and lost the starting catching position to Ron Hassey, but the Tribe thought enough of his bat to find a place for him in the lineup. Indeed, he was the Indians cleanup hitter and DH on Opening Day. However, he was soon pushed to the bench upon the ascension of rookie Joe Charboneau and his own propensity to strike out. He was relegated to occasional DH, pinch-hitter and third string catcher. - 1980toppsbaseball.blogspot.com

In a seven-season major league career, Alexander posted a .230 batting average with 55 home runs and 202 RBI in 432 games played with the Giants, A's, Indians and Pirates. His best statistical season was in 1978 when he hit 27 home runs and had 84 RBI's, 57 runs, 112 hits and 20 doubles in 148 games played, all career-highs. - Wikipedia

After baseball he began a long tenure as a Fire Captain in the LAFD.

Took a look at Gary Alexander based on the posting up above to see if I could punch it up. I ended up starting over and converting the 1979 Topps card to B&W to kill some of the odd reds, oranges and yellows that wouldn't go away in a color pic conversion.
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