Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack - Page 1814

DeweyintheHall · 05-20-2023, 09:31 AM

Thanks, Merkle!

Merkle923 · 05-27-2023, 03:02 AM

The black and white is actually a Brace. McCarthy's shot of Johnny Kucks in camp with the '63 Mets is in color:

Amazin69 · 05-27-2023, 05:24 PM

Nice! Thanks again.

Also, I didn't even know Brace shot Spring Training. Never too old to learn.

(Even if I'm turning You-Don't-Want-To Know-How-Old tomorrow. I and Mike DeFelice and Ryota Igarashi and the rest of us.

And yes, I need better Mets on my Birthday Team. [Todd Hundley is today. Oh, well.])

rrb77 · 06-04-2023, 05:44 PM

From the current RMY auction: There is 6 names given for 7 players which are (I think in this order) are Pat Flaherty (early football player and actor),Benn Karr, Herb Pennock, Sam Jones, Gary Fortune, Waite Hoyt, Allen Russell. I have not seen prior Red Sox Photos for Allen Russell.

If anyone can help to confirm IDs I would appreciate the help, Thanks

Dto7 · 06-04-2023, 06:35 PM

1920 Red Sox training camp photo with names.

rrb77 · 06-04-2023, 08:44 PM

Thanks Dto7

DeweyintheHall · 06-04-2023, 10:20 PM

I don't think it's Myers - this is a photo of Myers (I don't recall it's source, but I recall being confident it showed him with Boston) and he has a distinctive look.

DeweyintheHall · 06-04-2023, 10:23 PM

I have been using this image of Russell for my project - again, the source I can't recall - I believe it was a multi-player newspaper composite which I had reason to believe at the time showed him with Boston.

Obviously, this image gives us a far better example.

tnfoto · 06-05-2023, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

I don't think it's Myers - this is a photo of Myers (I don't recall it's source, but I recall being confident it showed him with Boston) and he has a distinctive look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

I have been using this image of Russell for my project - again, the source I can't recall - I believe it was a multi-player newspaper composite which I had reason to believe at the time showed him with Boston.

Obviously, this image gives us a far better example.

The Myers photo was from the 02-Jun-1921 Boston Globe. Russell also came from the globe, this one on 15-Apr-1920.

DeweyintheHall · 06-05-2023, 07:49 AM

Thanks!

Dto7 · 06-05-2023, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrb77

From the current RMY auction: There is 6 names given for 7 players which are (I think in this order) are Pat Flaherty (early football player and actor),Benn Karr, Herb Pennock, Sam Jones, ? possibly Elmer Myers, Waite Hoyt, Allen Russell. I have not seen prior Red Sox Photos for Elmer Myers or Allen Russell.

If anyone can help to confirm IDs I would appreciate the help, Thanks

I think your question mark pitcher is Gary Fortune.

rrb77 · 06-05-2023, 03:54 PM

I do believe you are correct, Thank you!

rrb77 · 06-05-2023, 05:42 PM

1928 Cleveland Indians...from current RMY auction.

rrb77 · 06-05-2023, 08:03 PM

1930 Chicago Cubs...from current RMY auction.

Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 12:21 AM

Also from the current RMY auction, a better Giants portrait of the 1948 Negro American League batting champ than the cropped image we had before.

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Artie hit .379 in limited action at Minneapolis (nothing compared to Willie Mays's .492, but still), but struggled being largely limited to pinch-hitting in Gotham. 4-for-22 and out.

Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 12:41 AM

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From the same auction.

Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 10:39 AM

From the same auction. Tinning is seen during his 1933 season, photographed by Charles Conlon en route to going 13-6 and leading the NL in Winning Percentage.

(Yes, somewhere there was a record book that listed the league leaders as "Winning %, Tinning" or similar.)

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Another lovely look at the 1931-1934 alternate road unis for the Cubs. I had no idea they'd ever used script.

If only this was from '32, we could see the red caps and letters used on this outfit then, but by 1933, they'd gone back to blue. Ah, well.

(I took out the yellowing and some of the facial shadow using my controls.)

Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 11:04 PM

RMY Auctions says that Jessee (one appearance as a pinch-runner and that's it) is the rarest player of the 1920s and this is his only portrait photo.

But that's a fib, since TNFOTO had a picture of him back in the thread. This one is better, though.

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Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 11:18 PM

Ten games and out with the Cardinals, but RMY provides an upgrade on what we had.

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Amazin69 · 06-07-2023, 11:57 PM

RMY gives us the longtime ChiSox outfielder in the 1925-only blue/white pinstripes road kits.

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05-27-2023, 03:02 AM	#36262
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,195	Kucks 1963 The black and white is actually a Brace. McCarthy's shot of Johnny Kucks in camp with the '63 Mets is in color: Attached Images

06-04-2023, 05:44 PM	#36264
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,295	1920 Red Sox Pitchers at Spring Training From the current RMY auction: There is 6 names given for 7 players which are (I think in this order) are Pat Flaherty (early football player and actor),Benn Karr, Herb Pennock, Sam Jones, Gary Fortune, Waite Hoyt, Allen Russell. I have not seen prior Red Sox Photos for Allen Russell. If anyone can help to confirm IDs I would appreciate the help, Thanks Attached Images Last edited by rrb77; 06-05-2023 at 03:59 PM. Reason: Dto7's appreciated help

06-04-2023, 06:35 PM	#36265
Dto7 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 894	1920 Red Sox training camp photo with names. Attached Images

06-04-2023, 10:20 PM	#36267
DeweyintheHall All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 787	I don't think it's Myers - this is a photo of Myers (I don't recall it's source, but I recall being confident it showed him with Boston) and he has a distinctive look. Attached Images

06-04-2023, 10:23 PM	#36268
DeweyintheHall All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 787	I have been using this image of Russell for my project - again, the source I can't recall - I believe it was a multi-player newspaper composite which I had reason to believe at the time showed him with Boston. Obviously, this image gives us a far better example. Attached Images

05-20-2023, 09:31 AM	#36261
DeweyintheHall All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 787	Thanks, Merkle!

05-27-2023, 05:24 PM	#36263
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Nice! Thanks again. Also, I didn't even know Brace shot Spring Training. Never too old to learn. (Even if I'm turning You-Don't-Want-To Know-How-Old tomorrow. I and Mike DeFelice and Ryota Igarashi and the rest of us. And yes, I need better Mets on my Birthday Team. [Todd Hundley is today. Oh, well.])

06-04-2023, 08:44 PM	#36266
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,295	Thanks Dto7

06-05-2023, 07:49 AM	#36270
DeweyintheHall All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 787	Thanks!

06-05-2023, 03:54 PM	#36272
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,295	I do believe you are correct, Thank you!

06-05-2023, 05:42 PM	#36273
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,295	Frank Wilson 1928 Cleveland Indians...from current RMY auction. Attached Images

06-05-2023, 08:03 PM	#36274
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,295	Mal Moss 1930 Chicago Cubs...from current RMY auction. Attached Images

06-07-2023, 12:21 AM	#36275
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Artie Wilson 1951 Also from the current RMY auction, a better Giants portrait of the 1948 Negro American League batting champ than the cropped image we had before. Artie hit .379 in limited action at Minneapolis (nothing compared to Willie Mays's .492, but still), but struggled being largely limited to pinch-hitting in Gotham. 4-for-22 and out.

06-07-2023, 12:41 AM	#36276
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Pete Gray 1945 From the same auction.

06-07-2023, 10:39 AM	#36277
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Lyle "Bud" Tinning 1932 From the same auction. Tinning is seen during his 1933 season, photographed by Charles Conlon en route to going 13-6 and leading the NL in Winning Percentage. (Yes, somewhere there was a record book that listed the league leaders as "Winning %, Tinning" or similar.) Another lovely look at the 1931-1934 alternate road unis for the Cubs. I had no idea they'd ever used script. If only this was from '32, we could see the red caps and letters used on this outfit then, but by 1933, they'd gone back to blue. Ah, well. (I took out the yellowing and some of the facial shadow using my controls.)

06-07-2023, 11:04 PM	#36278
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Dan Jessee 1929 RMY Auctions says that Jessee (one appearance as a pinch-runner and that's it) is the rarest player of the 1920s and this is his only portrait photo. But that's a fib, since TNFOTO had a picture of him back in the thread. This one is better, though.

06-07-2023, 11:18 PM	#36279
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Howie Williamson 1928 Ten games and out with the Cardinals, but RMY provides an upgrade on what we had.

06-07-2023, 11:57 PM	#36280
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,098 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Bibb Falk 1920 RMY gives us the longtime ChiSox outfielder in the 1925-only blue/white pinstripes road kits.