Ortiz, Again

Sweeney29 · 06-02-2005, 05:59 PM

Man that guys amazing.

jte87 · 06-02-2005, 06:03 PM

Good hitter, but as a rule, DHs don't amaze me.

Plus, I think Ortiz's decline, while not imminent, will be hard and fast.

Hammer755 · 06-02-2005, 06:03 PM

Why exactly did the Twins release him?

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jte87

Good hitter, but as a rule, DHs don't amaze me.

Plus, I think Ortiz's decline, while not imminent, will be hard and fast.

It isn't today, thats for sure!

SoxWin · 06-02-2005, 06:06 PM

TIZZLE !!!11111

Isn't it obvious Hammer? They needed to give AB's to Mientiaoiicoozjherahuhx...

Y0DA55 · 06-02-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

Why exactly did the Twins release him?

I don't think they wanted to release him. There defanitely was some reasoning behind it (probably salary). But I remember thinking that when he was in Minnesota that he was going to be a very good player.

rem · 06-02-2005, 06:09 PM

Ryan's first legit blow save of the year (he didn't allow a baserunner in the other one) - such stuff happens. Still it would have been nice to take a five game lead.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 06:10 PM

It was a salary dump -- he was arb eligible, and they didn't want to pay the arb award.

Did anyone SEE "today's" game? I only "saw" it on GAMEDAY.

rem · 06-02-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

It was a salary dump -- he was arb eligible, and they didn't want to pay the arb award.

Did anyone SEE "today's" game? I only "saw" it on GAMEDAY.

Yes, I "saw" it.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

Yes, I "saw" it.

In too much shock to give details, huh?

rem · 06-02-2005, 06:11 PM

Nope. What do you want to know?

Sweeney29 · 06-02-2005, 06:11 PM

I saw the very end. Ortiz wasn't all that good in Minny, nobody knew he would break out with the sox.

crazyhorsejohnny · 06-02-2005, 06:12 PM

He sucked in minny.

rem · 06-02-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweeney29

I saw the very end. Ortiz wasn't all that good in Minny, nobody knew he would break out with the sox.

Including the Sox, who played Jermey Giambi over him for the first half of 2003.

Y0DA55 · 06-02-2005, 06:15 PM

But people in the "baseball world" defanitely predicted bigger things from him. Maybe not what he has accomplished with the Sox, but he was defanitely going to be a good player.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

Nope. What do you want to know?

Was it a good pitch? One of those BJ Ryan sweeping, barely can be seen FBs? Or, was it a bit of a straighliner?

Tizzle has hit lefties better than in the past, but I can't remember him ever hitting a lefty as good as Ryan. I think he was 1 for something before this game, and another 1 for something against RJ.

TonyJ · 06-02-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorsejohnny

He sucked in minny.

Not at all surprising, but you are once again wrong.

SoxWin · 06-02-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

Why exactly did the Twins release him?

He didn't hit enough singles for them....

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...ams_for_ortiz/

Hammer755 · 06-02-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweeney29

I saw the very end. Ortiz wasn't all that good in Minny, nobody knew he would break out with the sox.

He had an OPS+ of 122 in his last year with Minny. That's good enough to consider it not sucking, as the ever-eloquent chj put it, but not good enough to command a disgustingly large arb number.

rem · 06-02-2005, 06:23 PM

It was a tough at-bat, Ortiz fouled off some good pitches. The pitch in question was right down the middle and about stomach high – easy pickings but Ortiz had a great at bat. Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought it would be off the monster at first and then I thought the CF would get it. But it got out with plenty of room to spare.

I do have to stay I was pretty surprised given that Ryan usually kills lefties and Ortiz usually doesn't hit lefties well. Not heartbroken or anything.

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Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	It was a salary dump -- he was arb eligible, and they didn't want to pay the arb award. Did anyone SEE "today's" game? I only "saw" it on GAMEDAY. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

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rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Nope. What do you want to know? __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

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jte87 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 305	Good hitter, but as a rule, DHs don't amaze me. Plus, I think Ortiz's decline, while not imminent, will be hard and fast.

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Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	Why exactly did the Twins release him?

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crazyhorsejohnny All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 818	He sucked in minny.

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Y0DA55 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the middle of the Yankees/Red Sox Rivalry Posts: 1,771	But people in the "baseball world" defanitely predicted bigger things from him. Maybe not what he has accomplished with the Sox, but he was defanitely going to be a good player. __________________ Do, or do not, there is no try!

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rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	It was a tough at-bat, Ortiz fouled off some good pitches. The pitch in question was right down the middle and about stomach high – easy pickings but Ortiz had a great at bat. Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought it would be off the monster at first and then I thought the CF would get it. But it got out with plenty of room to spare. I do have to stay I was pretty surprised given that Ryan usually kills lefties and Ortiz usually doesn't hit lefties well. Not heartbroken or anything. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0