4 Divisions/ 3 Leagues/ More Control Over League Structure

Kivlehan · 01-07-2002, 08:50 PM

In OOTP 4, I would like to see the ability to break the American League & National League out to four divisions a la the new NFL configuration. I typically expand my leagues to 32 teams and I would find it best if those 32 teams could be in two leagues with four teams in each division (I suppose this would either eliminate the Wild Card or cause an NFL-like two wild card).

I'd also love the ability even to create third (or even fourth for balance) Leagues. This is secondary to the division request. It would be cool to add the Federal League and the Continential League -- or maybe even the Japanese League or something that -- for more variety in options.

Any chance the Development Team would consider the divisions request or the league request?

Celtic Forever · 01-08-2002, 01:01 AM

I would like to see this as well

BillyBuck · 01-08-2002, 01:49 AM

Here, here.

Qrashman · 01-08-2002, 09:40 AM

there, there

Khaos · 01-08-2002, 09:45 AM

Where, where?

sporr · 01-08-2002, 10:43 AM

Over there. Over there.

Dagrims · 01-08-2002, 11:02 AM

[quote] Posts: 6 | From: Allentown, PA <hr></blockquote>

How long have you been in Allentown? I was born and raised there...very boring city.

Chris

LivnLegend · 01-08-2002, 12:22 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Dagrims:
<strong>
How long have you been in Allentown? I was born and raised there...very boring city.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Allentown?
I heard they're closing all the factories down
and
they've taken all the coal from the ground
And the union people crawled away

(sorry, Billy Joel!)

Kivlehan · 01-08-2002, 02:20 PM

Yes, Allentown is quite boring. Without the Internet, I would have to move away.

Specs · 01-08-2002, 03:11 PM

Going back to the topic, can't you create 3?

Scott Vibert · 01-08-2002, 05:21 PM

You can create 3 divisions, but not three leagues like he wanted.

Deft · 01-09-2002, 04:19 AM

I posted a request complementary to this suggestion in the wish list section. I think it would great to have a playoff editor that actually gave you the ability to determine how many teams make the playoffs, how many rounds are the playoffs, what are the requirements to make the playoffs and the ability to make bye teams.

In more distant versions of OOTP it would be great to actually make requirements to make the playoffs. Imagine a league where all teams that finish 6 games or fewer from the weakest division winner make the playoffs, or a league that only teams that finish with 90 wins or more make the playoffs. These would be leagues with variable # of rounds each year dependent on how many teams qualify.

Another benefit of customizeable playoffs would be the ability to create a losers bracket like college baseball.

Scott Vibert · 01-09-2002, 04:34 AM

I have posted on potentially having greater customization in the playoffs, however, I don't think your idea of having flexible numbers of rounds each year is that feasable... although I think with some effort it could be done, I'm not sure that it could be done right.. (you would end up with odd byes and one league potentially having to wait a round longer than the other league and it just doesn't seem like a great method IMO)

When I've posted, I managed to keep it simple, but stil hopefully give people some options.

In a 3 (or 4 if added in Version 4) divsion league setup you'd have the playoffs as they are today period, only option, sorry..

In a 2 division set up you could have either the LCS, or the current set up with 2 Wild Cards

In a 1 division set up you either have World Series only, LCS between 1st and one wild card, or the current set up with 3 Wild Cards

What this would also do is allow people who only have one league to have a playoff system because they could elect to have a playoff system with more tiers than just the world series.

The reason I have mentioned this is because the mechanism for each of these types of playoffs is already in the game, it should just be a matter of enabling the different style of playoff for the other possible league set ups, this could be set as a toggle in the League Setup screen.

Anythoughts.

BillyBuck · 01-09-2002, 06:19 AM

Every child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
If something happened on the way to that place
THey threw an American flag in our face
Oh-oh-oh

Deft · 01-10-2002, 02:47 AM

The more I think about it. I think giving the user an option to set up his own prefered matchups is the easiest short term solution.

The default playoff schedule will automatically be created but the user can edit the teams selected or add more games. It would be work intesive but takes some of the decision making out of the code and back into the user's hand.

01-07-2002, 08:50 PM	#1
Kivlehan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 160	4 Divisions/ 3 Leagues/ More Control Over League Structure In OOTP 4, I would like to see the ability to break the American League & National League out to four divisions a la the new NFL configuration. I typically expand my leagues to 32 teams and I would find it best if those 32 teams could be in two leagues with four teams in each division (I suppose this would either eliminate the Wild Card or cause an NFL-like two wild card). I'd also love the ability even to create third (or even fourth for balance) Leagues. This is secondary to the division request. It would be cool to add the Federal League and the Continential League -- or maybe even the Japanese League or something that -- for more variety in options. Any chance the Development Team would consider the divisions request or the league request?

01-08-2002, 01:49 AM	#3
BillyBuck Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: KC, MO Posts: 436	Here, here. __________________ Kansas City Crows - FEBL Champions 2006 and 2007 Oslo Mountain Dawgs - WBL Champions 2004 and 2005

01-08-2002, 09:40 AM	#4
Qrashman All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY Posts: 651	there, there __________________ ------------------- Montreal Expos / Calgary Storm, HBL HBL Baseball - Founded March 2001. HBL Waiting List

01-08-2002, 09:45 AM	#5
Khaos Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canfield, OH Posts: 473	Where, where? __________________ squish

01-08-2002, 11:02 AM	#7
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	[quote] Posts: 6 \| From: Allentown, PA <hr></blockquote> How long have you been in Allentown? I was born and raised there...very boring city. Chris __________________ "Read books, get brain."

01-08-2002, 01:01 AM	#2
Celtic Forever All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 529	I would like to see this as well

01-08-2002, 10:43 AM	#6
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Over there. Over there.

01-08-2002, 12:22 PM	#8
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	[quote]Originally posted by Dagrims: <strong> How long have you been in Allentown? I was born and raised there...very boring city. </strong><hr></blockquote> Allentown? I heard they're closing all the factories down and they've taken all the coal from the ground And the union people crawled away (sorry, Billy Joel!) __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

01-08-2002, 02:20 PM	#9
Kivlehan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 160	Yes, Allentown is quite boring. Without the Internet, I would have to move away.

01-08-2002, 05:21 PM	#11
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,266	You can create 3 divisions, but not three leagues like he wanted.

01-09-2002, 04:19 AM	#12
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,127	I posted a request complementary to this suggestion in the wish list section. I think it would great to have a playoff editor that actually gave you the ability to determine how many teams make the playoffs, how many rounds are the playoffs, what are the requirements to make the playoffs and the ability to make bye teams. In more distant versions of OOTP it would be great to actually make requirements to make the playoffs. Imagine a league where all teams that finish 6 games or fewer from the weakest division winner make the playoffs, or a league that only teams that finish with 90 wins or more make the playoffs. These would be leagues with variable # of rounds each year dependent on how many teams qualify. Another benefit of customizeable playoffs would be the ability to create a losers bracket like college baseball. __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2

01-09-2002, 04:34 AM	#13
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,266	I have posted on potentially having greater customization in the playoffs, however, I don't think your idea of having flexible numbers of rounds each year is that feasable... although I think with some effort it could be done, I'm not sure that it could be done right.. (you would end up with odd byes and one league potentially having to wait a round longer than the other league and it just doesn't seem like a great method IMO) When I've posted, I managed to keep it simple, but stil hopefully give people some options. In a 3 (or 4 if added in Version 4) divsion league setup you'd have the playoffs as they are today period, only option, sorry.. In a 2 division set up you could have either the LCS, or the current set up with 2 Wild Cards In a 1 division set up you either have World Series only, LCS between 1st and one wild card, or the current set up with 3 Wild Cards What this would also do is allow people who only have one league to have a playoff system because they could elect to have a playoff system with more tiers than just the world series. The reason I have mentioned this is because the mechanism for each of these types of playoffs is already in the game, it should just be a matter of enabling the different style of playoff for the other possible league set ups, this could be set as a toggle in the League Setup screen. Anythoughts.

01-09-2002, 06:19 AM	#14
BillyBuck Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: KC, MO Posts: 436	Every child had a pretty good shot To get at least as far as their old man got If something happened on the way to that place THey threw an American flag in our face Oh-oh-oh __________________ Kansas City Crows - FEBL Champions 2006 and 2007 Oslo Mountain Dawgs - WBL Champions 2004 and 2005

01-10-2002, 02:47 AM	#15
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,127	The more I think about it. I think giving the user an option to set up his own prefered matchups is the easiest short term solution. The default playoff schedule will automatically be created but the user can edit the teams selected or add more games. It would be work intesive but takes some of the decision making out of the code and back into the user's hand. __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2