Hopkins vs. Taylor on for sure

jrftbl56 · 05-03-2005, 09:39 PM

I just saw the press conference for Hopkins vs. Taylor on max boxing. Now hopefully this fight is on for sure id like to hear everyones opinion. I think Taylor might have been better off waiting for Hopkins to go away and then claiming his title i think it might be too soon for Taylor but I still think he has a great chance to win due to his natural ability and confident attitude.

meade95 · 05-03-2005, 10:17 PM

Should be a very interesting fight - Everyone has to give Hopkins all the credit in the World - He doesn't need "this" fight at all!! -

It does nothing for him in the big overall picture - If he wins everyone will say Taylor was too "green", etc, etc, etc -

Lots of props to Hopkins for taking it -

Not sure who I'm going with yet - Old Lions always fall sometime - This could be perfect timing for Taylor -

But my gut is still sticking with Hopkins for now -

mh2365 · 05-04-2005, 04:51 AM

I agree props to Hopkins for taking a fight he does not need. With that said Let's GO Taylor!!!!

Jim_Kidd · 05-04-2005, 09:55 AM

I can't help thinking about what Roberto Duran did to Davey Moore. Moore had power, energy, aggression... etc. He wound up eating leather until he was stopped and was basically never the same again. Taylor could be walking in his footsteps. I don't see Hopkins as the type of fighter who will suddenly "lose it" in one night. I see a gradual decline - as was the case with Hagler and Duran.

Jim

hamed · 05-04-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Kidd

I can't help thinking about what Roberto Duran did to Davey Moore. Moore had power, energy, aggression... etc. He wound up eating leather until he was stopped and was basically never the same again. Taylor could be walking in his footsteps. I don't see Hopkins as the type of fighter who will suddenly "lose it" in one night. I see a gradual decline - as was the case with Hagler and Duran.

Jim

Man, I remember thinking Moore was too big, too strong & too young for Duran, boy was I wrong! I don't think Davey was the same after that beating!

I saw the pic of Taylor & Hopkins standing face to face. Taylor looked a little bigger - 1st time I can recall Hopkins looking eye to eye or even up to an opponent. Seems like it's a better deal for Taylor. He's the young guy & unless Hopkins just beats the stuffing out of him, he should claim some belt down the line. If he wins, he beats a legend & it's even better for him. For Hopkins, he's facing a tough, young, big guy & if he beats him, some will ask: Who's Taylor?

But if Hopkins wins, he'll be expected to & some will say, so what?

jrftbl56 · 05-04-2005, 12:56 PM

Did anyone else sense that there was a little bit of doubt in Hopkins voice in his recent interview. He just didnt seem like himself to me maybe because he isnt comfortable being the show but idk didnt seem like the calm Hopkins of old.

Bam Bam · 05-04-2005, 03:33 PM

I thought Hopkins looked vulnerable vs Eastman, and slower...

Bam Bam · 05-04-2005, 03:39 PM

I think if Taylor comes to the fight un-intimidated, and lets it all hang out...he can beat Hopkins...but he can't respect Hopkins in there, he's gotta go for it...

PittPanther · 05-04-2005, 04:08 PM

I'll be rooting for Taylor in there, because I just don't find B-Hop to be that entertaining.

That being said, my prediction, as of right now, is that B-Hop will win a fairly easy unanimous decision and walk off into the sunset.

hamed · 05-04-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrftbl56

Did anyone else sense that there was a little bit of doubt in Hopkins voice in his recent interview. He just didnt seem like himself to me maybe because he isnt comfortable being the show but idk didnt seem like the calm Hopkins of old.

It's tough @ that level. They know they whipped most of the guys they fought in their past & even when they talk or act tough, they have to think in the back of their minds: Is this one guy who'll be too fast or hit too hard or won't be hurt by my punches?

Pitt: You think he won't fight again after Taylor? No Trinidad rematch?

PittPanther · 05-04-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hamed

It's tough @ that level. They know they whipped most of the guys they fought in their past & even when they talk or act tough, they have to think in the back of their minds: Is this one guy who'll be too fast or hit too hard or won't be hurt by my punches?

Pitt: You think he won't fight again after Taylor? No Trinidad rematch?

My gut feeling is that it was very hard to get the first fight inked and a rematch won't be any easier to procure. Couple that in with the fact that Winky might get Trinidad and I think there are a lot of obstacles that will have to be overcome.

Eric will probably have the up-to-date rumours after the fight, so we shall see.

Off topic here: I've visited that site he haunts and I can't stand it! Seems as though the 15 and under crowd run the show. If you think his writing is incomprehensible, go lurk around those boards. Yikes!

Jim_Kidd · 05-04-2005, 07:47 PM

I used to want to see a rematch of Hopkins vs Trinidad... but not so much any more. My thinking is, Hopkins already proved he's a better fighter than Trinidad. The first fight wasn't really close at all. It was exciting, but not close in terms of rounds won or scoring.

Trinidad can't outbox Hopkins... so the only question is; is Hopkins finally old enough and worn enough to get caught with a big knockout shot. My guess is, that will only happen when he's shot... and I don't think he's shot yet. Styles make fights, though. And I think Taylor's style is perfect for Hopkins to exploit as Davey Moore's was with Duran.

Jim

mh2365 · 05-04-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PittPanther

My gut feeling is that it was very hard to get the first fight inked and a rematch won't be any easier to procure. Couple that in with the fact that Winky might get Trinidad and I think there are a lot of obstacles that will have to be overcome.

Eric will probably have the up-to-date rumours after the fight, so we shall see.

Off topic here: I've visited that site he haunts and I can't stand it! Seems as though the 15 and under crowd run the show. If you think his writing is incomprehensible, go lurk around those boards. Yikes!

Yeah now while I've grown to like Eric, that board is straight punk central. Makes Eric look like Cap.

As far as Hopkins goes, I see him fighting Taylor again if he loses. The winner of Trinidad/Wright if he wins. Maybe the winner of Johnson/Tarver.

jrftbl56 · 05-04-2005, 09:26 PM

I think if Hopkins losses he should retire and leave the division to Taylor but if he wins then he should fight Trinidad and if he wins that fight whoever he wants as long as he can beat the top guys he can stay around forever. We have seen he would rather take the best fight over the money by fighting Taylor instead of a name.

hamed · 05-05-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PittPanther

My gut feeling is that it was very hard to get the first fight inked and a rematch won't be any easier to procure. Couple that in with the fact that Winky might get Trinidad and I think there are a lot of obstacles that will have to be overcome.

Eric will probably have the up-to-date rumours after the fight, so we shall see.

Off topic here: I've visited that site he haunts and I can't stand it! Seems as though the 15 and under crowd run the show. If you think his writing is incomprehensible, go lurk around those boards. Yikes!

Good points Pitt! Funny stuff too!

Zima · 05-05-2005, 08:18 PM

Bernard Hopkins is much more artful than the Taylor. Executioner will win by TKO in round-8. The EXECUTION will come.

jrftbl56 · 05-08-2005, 07:24 PM

Whatever Hopkins does eventually it will have to come to an end Andre Ward is down at Middleweight now does anyone think Taylor and Ward may hook up in a couple years to fight for the Middleweight crown or do you think neither one of them will stick around in the division long enough to see that happen

05-03-2005, 09:39 PM	#1
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	Hopkins vs. Taylor on for sure I just saw the press conference for Hopkins vs. Taylor on max boxing. Now hopefully this fight is on for sure id like to hear everyones opinion. I think Taylor might have been better off waiting for Hopkins to go away and then claiming his title i think it might be too soon for Taylor but I still think he has a great chance to win due to his natural ability and confident attitude.

05-04-2005, 09:55 AM	#4
Jim_Kidd All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida, West Coast Posts: 578	I could be wrong, but... I can't help thinking about what Roberto Duran did to Davey Moore. Moore had power, energy, aggression... etc. He wound up eating leather until he was stopped and was basically never the same again. Taylor could be walking in his footsteps. I don't see Hopkins as the type of fighter who will suddenly "lose it" in one night. I see a gradual decline - as was the case with Hagler and Duran. Jim

05-04-2005, 03:33 PM	#7
Bam Bam All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,027	I thought Hopkins looked vulnerable vs Eastman, and slower... __________________ runs a 4.4 40..

05-04-2005, 03:39 PM	#8
Bam Bam All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,027	I think if Taylor comes to the fight un-intimidated, and lets it all hang out...he can beat Hopkins...but he can't respect Hopkins in there, he's gotta go for it... __________________ runs a 4.4 40..

05-04-2005, 04:08 PM	#9
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,235	I'll be rooting for Taylor in there, because I just don't find B-Hop to be that entertaining. That being said, my prediction, as of right now, is that B-Hop will win a fairly easy unanimous decision and walk off into the sunset. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

05-03-2005, 10:17 PM	#2
meade95 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,095	Should be a very interesting fight - Everyone has to give Hopkins all the credit in the World - He doesn't need "this" fight at all!! - It does nothing for him in the big overall picture - If he wins everyone will say Taylor was too "green", etc, etc, etc - Lots of props to Hopkins for taking it - Not sure who I'm going with yet - Old Lions always fall sometime - This could be perfect timing for Taylor - But my gut is still sticking with Hopkins for now -

05-04-2005, 04:51 AM	#3
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I agree props to Hopkins for taking a fight he does not need. With that said Let's GO Taylor!!!!

05-04-2005, 12:56 PM	#6
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	Did anyone else sense that there was a little bit of doubt in Hopkins voice in his recent interview. He just didnt seem like himself to me maybe because he isnt comfortable being the show but idk didnt seem like the calm Hopkins of old.

05-04-2005, 07:47 PM	#12
Jim_Kidd All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida, West Coast Posts: 578	I used to want to see a rematch of Hopkins vs Trinidad... but not so much any more. My thinking is, Hopkins already proved he's a better fighter than Trinidad. The first fight wasn't really close at all. It was exciting, but not close in terms of rounds won or scoring. Trinidad can't outbox Hopkins... so the only question is; is Hopkins finally old enough and worn enough to get caught with a big knockout shot. My guess is, that will only happen when he's shot... and I don't think he's shot yet. Styles make fights, though. And I think Taylor's style is perfect for Hopkins to exploit as Davey Moore's was with Duran. Jim Last edited by Jim_Kidd; 05-04-2005 at 07:48 PM.

05-04-2005, 09:26 PM	#14
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	I think if Hopkins losses he should retire and leave the division to Taylor but if he wins then he should fight Trinidad and if he wins that fight whoever he wants as long as he can beat the top guys he can stay around forever. We have seen he would rather take the best fight over the money by fighting Taylor instead of a name.

05-05-2005, 08:18 PM	#16
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	Bernard Hopkins is much more artful than the Taylor. Executioner will win by TKO in round-8. The *EXECUTION* will come.

05-08-2005, 07:24 PM	#17
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	Whatever Hopkins does eventually it will have to come to an end Andre Ward is down at Middleweight now does anyone think Taylor and Ward may hook up in a couple years to fight for the Middleweight crown or do you think neither one of them will stick around in the division long enough to see that happen