Baseball America Top 100 Prospects: 1993

GForce22 · 02-20-2003, 05:29 PM

Thought this would be an interesting one...here are Baseball America's top 100 prospects for the 1993 season. An interesting list, I think.
Where have you gone Tavo Alvarez?

GH

1993 Top 100 Prospects

1. Chipper Jones, ss, Braves
2. Brien Taylor, lhp, Yankees
3. Cliff Floyd, of, Expos
4. Carlos Delgado, c, Blue Jays
5. Tim Salmon, of, Angels
6. Wil Cordero, ss, Expos
7. Todd Van Poppel, rhp, Athletics
8. Jason Bere, rhp, White Sox
9. Allen Watson, lhp, Cardinals
10. Tyrone Hill, lhp, Brewers
11. Kurt Miller, rhp, Rangers
12. Dmitri Young, 3b, Cardinals
13. Manny Ramirez, of, Indians
14. Ray McDavid, of, Padres
15. Rondell White, of, Expos
16. David McCarty, 1b-of, Twins
17. Tavo Alvarez, rhp, Expos
18. Brad Pennington, lhp, Orioles
19. Jeffrey Hammonds, of, Orioles
20. Javy Lopez, c, Braves
21. Benji Gil, ss, Rangers
22. Johnny Damon, of, Royals
23. David Nied, rhp, Rockies
24. Willie Greene, 3b, Reds
25. Frank Rodriguez, rhp, Red Sox
26. Ryan Klesko, 1b, Braves
27. Alex Gonzalez, ss, Blue Jays
28. Bobby Jones, rhp, Mets
29. Troy Percival, rhp, Angels
30. Phil Nevin, 3b, Astros
31. Tyler Green, rhp, Phillies
32. Jim Pittsley, rhp, Royals
33. Calvin Murray, of, Giants
34. Mike Kelly, of, Braves
35. Kevin Young, 3b-1b, Pirates
36. John Roper, rhp, Reds
37. Nigel Wilson, of, Marlins
38. Mike Piazza, c, Dodgers
39. Melvin Nieves, of, Braves
40. Michael Tucker, 2b-of, Royals
41. Jessie Hollins, rhp, Cubs
42. Todd Jones, rhp, Astros
43. Marc Newfield, of, Mariners
44. Derek Jeter, ss, Yankees
45. Carlos Garcia, 2b, Pirates
46. Midre Cummings, of, Pirates
47. Shawn Green, of, Blue Jays
48. Calvin Reese, ss, Reds
49. Alan Embree, lhp, Indians
50. Kevin Rogers, lhp, Giants
51. Edgar Renteria, ss, Marlins
52. Gerald Williams, of, Yankees
53. Mike Trombley, rhp, Twins
54. Brian Barber, rhp, Cardinals
55. Steve Karsay, rhp, Blue Jays
56. Brent Gates, 2b, Athletics
57. Manny Alexander, ss, Orioles
58. Joey Hamilton, rhp, Padres
59. Matt Whisenant, lhp, Marlins
60. Russ Davis, 3b, Yankees
61. Jeromy Burnitz, of, Mets
62. Pedro Martinez, rhp, Dodgers
63. Ron Villone, lhp, Mariners
64. Brook Fordyce, c, Mets
65. Joe Rosselli, lhp, Giants
66. James Baldwin, rhp, White Sox
67. Mike Lieberthal, c, Phillies
68. Jose Martinez, rhp, Marlins
69. Carl Everett, of, Marlins
70. Derek Lowe, rhp, Mariners
71. Chad Mottola, of, Reds
72. Greg Blosser, of, Red Sox
73. Dan Smith, lhp, Rangers
74. Al Shirley, of, Mets
75. Jose Pett, rhp, Blue Jays
76. Curtis Shaw, lhp, Athletics
77. Mark Thompson, rhp, Rockies
78. Rich Becker, of, Twins
79. Steve Gibralter, of, Reds
80. Scott Ruffcorn, rhp, White Sox
81. Paul Shuey, rhp, Indians
82. Raul Mondesi, of, Dodgers
83. Steve Hosey, of, Giants
84. Aaron Sele, rhp, Red Sox
85. Roger Cedeno, of, Dodgers
86. Ron Watson, rhp, Angels
87. Brian Hunter, of, Astros
88. Larry Thomas, lhp, White Sox
89. Alex Ochoa, of, Orioles
90. Sterling Hitchcock, lhp, Yankees
91. Dan Wilson, c, Reds
92. Butch Huskey, 3b, Mets
93. Preston Wilson, of, Mets
94. Greg Gohr, rhp, Tigers
95. Bob Abreu, of, Astros
96. Aaron Holbert, ss, Cardinals
97. Bret Boone, 2b, Mariners
98. J. T. Snow, 1b, Angels
99. Russ Springer, rhp, Angels
100. Rene Arocha, rhp, Cardinals

fantom1979 · 02-20-2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GForce22
Where have you gone Tavo Alvarez?

The funny thing is, is that it looks like he never even got much of a shot.

http://www.baseballreference.com/a/alvarta01.shtml

jmaness84 · 02-20-2003, 05:47 PM

It was a very nice class

Stealth · 02-20-2003, 06:28 PM

Pedro and Piazza both a little low on that list. It's amazing to see some of those top 10's haven't amounted to much.

crackpott · 02-20-2003, 07:34 PM

no it's not. Very rarely will you see a top 10 full of stars. The fact that Chipper, Delgado, Floyd, and Salmon are in it is impressive, actually.

LivnLegend · 02-20-2003, 07:56 PM

I agree with Crack, to score that many stars and semi-stars on a list of this nature is pretty good. Not world-beating, but good.
Easy for us to look back now and say "what were they thinking?" but there wasn't a scout in America who would not have given his left testicle to sign Todd Van Poppel or Brien Taylor.

Amazingly, all four Dodgers listed went on to have very productive careers...Piazza, Pedro, Mondesi and Cedeno

jmaness84 · 02-21-2003, 01:00 AM

Remember the time in the early 90s every year a Dodger won the ROY. Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo, Hollandsworth.. Valdes and Park might have won one, im not sure though.

jmaness84 · 02-21-2003, 01:03 AM

i counted 58 quality MLB players in there. That is a pretty good amount!

rockze25 · 02-21-2003, 02:36 AM

You could almost flip the list upside down and start with #100 as your #1 and it would make the same amount of sense.

In hindsight of course. . .

H I Mcdonough · 02-21-2003, 06:33 AM

Wow.....that is some list, talent wise. I'dbe interested to see other lists from the same era and if they have the same level of star power.

holyroller · 02-21-2003, 07:06 AM

To quote Baseball Prospectus, "there is no such thing as a pitching prospect"

darkhorse · 02-21-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend
there wasn't a scout in America who would not have given his left testicle to sign Todd Van Poppel or Brien Taylor.

This story is well known but a few may not have heard of the future millions that Taylor wasted in a bar fight.

When the New York Yankees gave the North Carolina prep star a record $1.55 million signing bonus in 1991, it was such news that CBS' "60 Minutes" did a segment on it.
The 17-year-old Beaufort, N.C., native was dubbed the next Dwight Gooden after he posted a 29-6 record and struck out 476 batters in 239 innings in his prep career. The No. 1 pick of the amateur draft, the Yankees picked him ahead of Manny Ramírez (No. 13), Cliff Floyd (No. 14) and Shawn Green (No. 16).

Taylor received a rude awakening in Class-A ball, telling reporters after his first pro start: "In high school, nobody ever got on base. So I've got some adjusting to do."

But it didn't really matter. On Dec. 18, 1993, Taylor got into a barroom fight back home with a childhood friend and landed on his throwing shoulder.

He missed the 1994 season after undergoing surgery and was never the same.

Taylor's fastball, clocked in the high 90s before, fell to the low 80s. The Yankees' plans of having Taylor and Andy Pettitte as their one-two punch went out in a flash.

The Yankees finally gave up on Taylor in 1998. Seattle gave him a look in '99, but he couldn't even get the kids out at extended spring training.

He pitched five games for Cleveland's Class-A team in 2000, giving up eight runs in 2 2/3 innings. He pitched in just 41 minor-league games, never reaching Triple-A.

jmaness84 · 02-21-2003, 10:48 AM

How about the Chipper Jones/Todd Van Poppel incident. The Braves wanted to select Van Poppel, however he told the Braves that he wasnt going to play profesional baseball and go to college fist. So when he got drafted by the World Championship A's in the latter of the first round, he changed his mind

. I think it worked out for the braves just fine.

rockze25 · 02-21-2003, 11:58 AM

I had no idea exactly what happened to Brien Taylor. I had like 2 or 3 prospect baseball cards of him and wondered why he never made it. I thought he just didn't live up to the hype like Van Poppel.

Oh well, I guess it turns out for the best. The Steinbrenner and the Yankees would have started their big spending spree a lot sooner had they showed they were a winning team earlier in the 90s. Left a little room for the Braves to sneak in.

Thanks for the story dh.

Stealth · 02-21-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by crackpott
no it's not. Very rarely will you see a top 10 full of stars. The fact that Chipper, Delgado, Floyd, and Salmon are in it is impressive, actually.

I realize this is a great prospect list. I was just noting that guys like Brien Taylor, Watson and VanPopple had so much promise, but never amounted to much.

GForce22 · 02-21-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by H I Mcdonough
Wow.....that is some list, talent wise. I'dbe interested to see other lists from the same era and if they have the same level of star power.

Let's skip a couple of years and take a look.

GH

1995 Top 100 Prospects
1. Alex Rodriguez, ss, Mariners
2. Ruben Rivera, of, Yankees
3. Chipper Jones, ss, Braves
4. Derek Jeter, ss, Yankees
5. Brian Hunter, of, Astros
6. Shawn Green, of, Blue Jays
7. Charles Johnson, c, Marlins
8. Alex Gonzalez, ss, Blue Jays
9. Johnny Damon, of, Royals
10. Ben Grieve, of, Athletics
11. Armando Benitez, rhp, Orioles
12. Bill Pulsipher, lhp, Mets
13. Todd Hollandsworth, of, Dodgers
14. Alan Benes, rhp, Cardinals
15. Antonio Osuna, rhp, Dodgers
16. Paul Wilson, rhp, Mets
17. Billy Wagner, lhp, Astros
18. Dustin Hermanson, rhp, Padres
19. Doug Million, lhp, Rockies
20. Rey Ordonez, ss, Mets
21. Andruw Jones, of, Braves
22. Nomar Garciaparra, ss, Red Sox
23. Scott Ruffcorn, rhp, White Sox
24. Josh Booty, 3b, Marlins
25. James Baldwin, rhp, White Sox
26. Roger Cedeno, of, Dodgers
27. Ugueth Urbina, rhp, Expos
28. Ray Durham, 2b, White Sox
29. Marc Newfield, of, Mariners
30. LaTroy Hawkins, rhp, Twins
31. Edgardo Alfonzo, 3b, Mets
32. Michael Tucker, of, Royals
33. Jose Silva, rhp, Blue Jays
34. Richard Hidalgo, of, Astros
35. Alex Ochoa, of, Orioles
36. Frank Rodriguez, rhp, Red Sox
37. Jason Isringhausen, rhp, Mets
38. Paul Konerko, c, Dodgers
39. Jim Pittsley, rhp, Royals
40. Todd Walker, 2b, Twins
41. Chan Ho Park, rhp, Dodgers
42. Jason Schmidt, rhp, Braves
43. Trey Beamon, of, Pirates
44. Julio Santana, rhp, Rangers
45. Jimmy Haynes, rhp, Orioles
46. Trot Nixon, of, Red Sox
47. Brian Barber, rhp, Cardinals
48. Pokey Reese, ss, Reds
49. Andy Pettitte, lhp, Yankees
50. Jeff Suppan, rhp, Red Sox
51. Orlando Miller, ss, Astros
52. Bob Abreu, of, Astros
53. John Wasdin, rhp, Athletics
54. Terrell Wade, lhp, Braves
55. Juan Acevedo, rhp, Rockies
56. Andy Larkin, rhp, Marlins
57. Benji Gil, ss, Rangers
58. Everett Stull, rhp, Expos
59. Phil Nevin, 3b, Astros
60. Raul Casanova, c, Padres
61. Sergio Nunez, 2b, Royals
62. Ron Villone, lhp, Mariners
63. Scott Elarton, rhp, Astros
64. Antone Williamson, 3b, Brewers
65. Hiram Bocachica, ss, Expos
66. Jaret Wright, rhp, Indians
67. Paul Shuey, rhp, Indians
68. Curtis Goodwin, of, Orioles
69. Marc Kroon, rhp, Padres
70. Marc Barcelo, rhp, Twins
71. Andrew Lorraine, lhp, Angels
72. Shannon Stewart, of, Blue Jays
73. J. R. Phillips, 1b, Giants
74. Jeff Granger, lhp, Royals
75. Jimmy Hurst, of, White Sox
76. Glenn Williams, ss, Braves
77. Angel Martinez, c, Blue Jays
78. Russ Davis, 3b, Yankees
79. Matt Drews, rhp, Yankees
80. Daron Kirkreit, rhp, Indians
81. Derrek Lee, 1b, Padres
82. Brooks Kieschnick, 1b-of, Cubs
83. Pat Watkins, of, Reds
84. Bret Wagner, lhp, Cardinals
85. Vladimir Guerrero, of, Expos
86. Tony Clark, 1b, Tigers
87. C. J. Nitkowski, lhp, Reds
88. Jermaine Dye, of, Braves
89. Marc Valdes, rhp, Marlins
90. Dante Powell, of, Giants
91. Scott Rolen, 3b, Phillies
92. Desi Relaford, ss, Mariners
93. Garrett Anderson, of, Angels
94. Jose Malave, of, Red Sox
95. Carl Everett, of, Mets
96. Jay Payton, of, Mets
97. Jose Herrera, of, Athletics
98. Karim Garcia, of, Dodgers
99. Damon Hollins, of, Braves
100. Chris Carpenter, rhp, Blue Jays

blink182stud5 · 02-21-2003, 01:54 PM

ahhhhh. the class of the ss. rey ordonez 20th if only he lived up to that just another devil ray now.

CommishJoe · 02-21-2003, 05:18 PM

Ah yes, Ruben Rivera. Turned out to be a worthless OFer traded for the rights to a worthless pitcher

Long_Long_Name · 02-21-2003, 05:56 PM

I remember Tavo Alvarez. He HIT 3 home runs for me in a 33-0 win in Baseball '94 (that game was slightly too easy...)

Long_Long_Name · 02-21-2003, 05:58 PM

What's funny is that on the 1995 list, the two best young players in the game today are ranked #1 and #85...

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LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I agree with Crack, to score that many stars and semi-stars on a list of this nature is pretty good. Not world-beating, but good. Easy for us to look back now and say "what were they thinking?" but there wasn't a scout in America who would not have given his left testicle to sign Todd Van Poppel or Brien Taylor. Amazingly, all four Dodgers listed went on to have very productive careers...Piazza, Pedro, Mondesi and Cedeno __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

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02-20-2003, 05:29 PM	#1
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Baseball America Top 100 Prospects: 1993 Thought this would be an interesting one...here are Baseball America's top 100 prospects for the 1993 season. An interesting list, I think. Where have you gone Tavo Alvarez? GH 1993 Top 100 Prospects 1. Chipper Jones, ss, Braves 2. Brien Taylor, lhp, Yankees 3. Cliff Floyd, of, Expos 4. Carlos Delgado, c, Blue Jays 5. Tim Salmon, of, Angels 6. Wil Cordero, ss, Expos 7. Todd Van Poppel, rhp, Athletics 8. Jason Bere, rhp, White Sox 9. Allen Watson, lhp, Cardinals 10. Tyrone Hill, lhp, Brewers 11. Kurt Miller, rhp, Rangers 12. Dmitri Young, 3b, Cardinals 13. Manny Ramirez, of, Indians 14. Ray McDavid, of, Padres 15. Rondell White, of, Expos 16. David McCarty, 1b-of, Twins 17. Tavo Alvarez, rhp, Expos 18. Brad Pennington, lhp, Orioles 19. Jeffrey Hammonds, of, Orioles 20. Javy Lopez, c, Braves 21. Benji Gil, ss, Rangers 22. Johnny Damon, of, Royals 23. David Nied, rhp, Rockies 24. Willie Greene, 3b, Reds 25. Frank Rodriguez, rhp, Red Sox 26. Ryan Klesko, 1b, Braves 27. Alex Gonzalez, ss, Blue Jays 28. Bobby Jones, rhp, Mets 29. Troy Percival, rhp, Angels 30. Phil Nevin, 3b, Astros 31. Tyler Green, rhp, Phillies 32. Jim Pittsley, rhp, Royals 33. Calvin Murray, of, Giants 34. Mike Kelly, of, Braves 35. Kevin Young, 3b-1b, Pirates 36. John Roper, rhp, Reds 37. Nigel Wilson, of, Marlins 38. Mike Piazza, c, Dodgers 39. Melvin Nieves, of, Braves 40. Michael Tucker, 2b-of, Royals 41. Jessie Hollins, rhp, Cubs 42. Todd Jones, rhp, Astros 43. Marc Newfield, of, Mariners 44. Derek Jeter, ss, Yankees 45. Carlos Garcia, 2b, Pirates 46. Midre Cummings, of, Pirates 47. Shawn Green, of, Blue Jays 48. Calvin Reese, ss, Reds 49. Alan Embree, lhp, Indians 50. Kevin Rogers, lhp, Giants 51. Edgar Renteria, ss, Marlins 52. Gerald Williams, of, Yankees 53. Mike Trombley, rhp, Twins 54. Brian Barber, rhp, Cardinals 55. Steve Karsay, rhp, Blue Jays 56. Brent Gates, 2b, Athletics 57. Manny Alexander, ss, Orioles 58. Joey Hamilton, rhp, Padres 59. Matt Whisenant, lhp, Marlins 60. Russ Davis, 3b, Yankees 61. Jeromy Burnitz, of, Mets 62. Pedro Martinez, rhp, Dodgers 63. Ron Villone, lhp, Mariners 64. Brook Fordyce, c, Mets 65. Joe Rosselli, lhp, Giants 66. James Baldwin, rhp, White Sox 67. Mike Lieberthal, c, Phillies 68. Jose Martinez, rhp, Marlins 69. Carl Everett, of, Marlins 70. Derek Lowe, rhp, Mariners 71. Chad Mottola, of, Reds 72. Greg Blosser, of, Red Sox 73. Dan Smith, lhp, Rangers 74. Al Shirley, of, Mets 75. Jose Pett, rhp, Blue Jays 76. Curtis Shaw, lhp, Athletics 77. Mark Thompson, rhp, Rockies 78. Rich Becker, of, Twins 79. Steve Gibralter, of, Reds 80. Scott Ruffcorn, rhp, White Sox 81. Paul Shuey, rhp, Indians 82. Raul Mondesi, of, Dodgers 83. Steve Hosey, of, Giants 84. Aaron Sele, rhp, Red Sox 85. Roger Cedeno, of, Dodgers 86. Ron Watson, rhp, Angels 87. Brian Hunter, of, Astros 88. Larry Thomas, lhp, White Sox 89. Alex Ochoa, of, Orioles 90. Sterling Hitchcock, lhp, Yankees 91. Dan Wilson, c, Reds 92. Butch Huskey, 3b, Mets 93. Preston Wilson, of, Mets 94. Greg Gohr, rhp, Tigers 95. Bob Abreu, of, Astros 96. Aaron Holbert, ss, Cardinals 97. Bret Boone, 2b, Mariners 98. J. T. Snow, 1b, Angels 99. Russ Springer, rhp, Angels 100. Rene Arocha, rhp, Cardinals

02-20-2003, 05:47 PM	#3
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	It was a very nice class

02-20-2003, 06:28 PM	#4
Stealth Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 144	Pedro and Piazza both a little low on that list. It's amazing to see some of those top 10's haven't amounted to much.

02-21-2003, 01:00 AM	#7
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	Remember the time in the early 90s every year a Dodger won the ROY. Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo, Hollandsworth.. Valdes and Park might have won one, im not sure though.

02-21-2003, 01:03 AM	#8
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	i counted 58 quality MLB players in there. That is a pretty good amount!

02-21-2003, 02:36 AM	#9
rockze25 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 243	You could almost flip the list upside down and start with #100 as your #1 and it would make the same amount of sense. In hindsight of course. . .

02-21-2003, 06:33 AM	#10
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	Wow.....that is some list, talent wise. I'dbe interested to see other lists from the same era and if they have the same level of star power.

02-21-2003, 10:48 AM	#13
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	How about the Chipper Jones/Todd Van Poppel incident. The Braves wanted to select Van Poppel, however he told the Braves that he wasnt going to play profesional baseball and go to college fist. So when he got drafted by the World Championship A's in the latter of the first round, he changed his mind . I think it worked out for the braves just fine.

02-21-2003, 11:58 AM	#14
rockze25 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 243	I had no idea exactly what happened to Brien Taylor. I had like 2 or 3 prospect baseball cards of him and wondered why he never made it. I thought he just didn't live up to the hype like Van Poppel. Oh well, I guess it turns out for the best. The Steinbrenner and the Yankees would have started their big spending spree a lot sooner had they showed they were a winning team earlier in the 90s. Left a little room for the Braves to sneak in. Thanks for the story dh.

02-21-2003, 01:54 PM	#17
blink182stud5 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: bayville NJ Posts: 51	ahhhhh. the class of the ss. rey ordonez 20th if only he lived up to that just another devil ray now.

02-21-2003, 05:58 PM	#20
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	What's funny is that on the 1995 list, the two best young players in the game today are ranked #1 and #85... __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!