Is there a way to UNLOCK TRADITIONAL and set to TALENT ONLY?

DarkFudge · 04-05-2002, 10:17 AM

folks...is there a way I can unlock this somehow...I locked my career and have now been reading that TALENT ONLY is more realistic than Traditional!!.....Is there a way to do it somewhere in the game directory by editing some files or something?

Please help!

DarkFudge · 04-07-2002, 03:25 PM

guys...c'mon!!

help me out here...PLEEEEASE

I'm dying to try this out in my existing career ....I'm even willing to hack WINDOWS REGISTRY FILES if I have to...but it cant be that much work...could it?

Surely its just a data file somewhere that needs to be edited?

thanks a bunch!

Henry · 04-07-2002, 03:28 PM

I don't think you can get to it once it's locked. Steve or Markus would have to confirm - but my guess is once it's locked - that's it for that league.

Anyone ?

Steve Kuffrey · 04-07-2002, 03:28 PM

I do not know of one, but I've never tried.

joshuaaaaaa · 04-07-2002, 03:33 PM

What's the difference between Traditional and Talent? I've never messed with this setting because I don't fully understand it.

JML · 04-07-2002, 03:34 PM

I think thats the whole point of locking it. No matter how tempted you are, you can't change it. In your case you want to actually make it more challenging, but either way, I think you're stuck with the rating system you locked to begin with.

JML · 04-07-2002, 03:35 PM

[quote]Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa:
What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.<hr></blockquote>

Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.

joshuaaaaaa · 04-07-2002, 03:39 PM

[quote]Originally posted by JML:


Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.<hr></blockquote>

But back up my league first, right?

Dwolfson20 · 04-07-2002, 04:40 PM

[quote] But back up my league first, right? <hr></blockquote>

You shouldn't have to do that, as long as you don't lock it. Just change to the one that you aren't on now and then look at your player's ratings. Then just switch back whenever you're ready.

dasperp · 04-07-2002, 07:05 PM

I like Talent only better. It's a lot harder to evaluate talent and you have to rely more on stats. I tried switching it back and it wasn't nearly as enjoyable.

Tiger Fan · 04-07-2002, 07:29 PM

Markus, if it is possible please do not tell us how to do it. My main concern would be having it abused in online leagues. If you are in a solo league don't lock it and you won't have a problem.

DarkFudge · 04-07-2002, 07:43 PM

Listen...i want to know so...please dont tell Markus not to tell us, but rather tell him to EMAIL or PRIVATE MESSAGE the person that asked ( ME )

thank you

BasicGuy · 04-07-2002, 10:42 PM

sorry Darkfudge I have to agree with Tiger Fan....what good is a lock feature if you know how to unlock it. I relize its your league and you have a right todo with it as you please. But if he tells you how to undo the lock and then someone else wants to know so he tells him and etc. next thing you know net leagues have no way to know if your cheating.

Just start a fresh league and this time dont lock it.

Tiger Fan · 04-08-2002, 03:36 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DarkFudge:
Listen...i want to know so...please dont tell Markus not to tell us, but rather tell him to EMAIL or PRIVATE MESSAGE the person that asked ( ME )<hr /></blockquote>Sorry, DarkFudge. It is nothing against you personally but Markus simply can't release that imformation. It would destroy the feauture particularily with regard to online leagues. The option to lock is there for a reason. If we all learn how to unlock it than it becomes pointless to have the hidden ratings at all.

DarkFudge · 04-08-2002, 03:54 AM

Listen to me please...I dont play online leagues and I have no desire to "share" any "secrets" with anyone....I simply made a mistake with my own personal league and wish to change the league to view Talent Only since everyone seems to say its more realistic. I've committed simply too many seasons into my little 'fantasy world' to just start over....this is preposterous to think that I cannot just ask a request of this basic nature.

I can understand your side and am even willing to have the OOTP team "DO" it for me if I mail them the file or whatever would be needed just to protect what is sacred....I just want to enjoy the game to it's fullest without having to redo everything that I vested so much time into doing.

joshuaaaaaa · 04-08-2002, 04:40 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JML:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa:
What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.<hr /></blockquote>Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.<hr /></blockquote>Okay, so I tried it and it was pretty self-explanatory. That's what I get for responding to things like this when I'm at work and aren't able to actually run the game.

My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature.

Scott Vibert · 04-08-2002, 05:02 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JML:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa:
What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.<hr /></blockquote>Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.<hr /></blockquote>Okay, so I tried it and it was pretty self-explanatory. That's what I get for responding to things like this when I'm at work and aren't able to actually run the game.

My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature.<hr /></blockquote>Talent only forces you to go with historical performance and would be extremely difficult, without some historical performance to base it on... so its not the best way to go the first year or two of a league (IMO); but after a few years of simming when you have a feel for a few players on the team it could be neat to switch over and have to go on results and the players overall talent which would make the game pretty challenging.

DennisS · 04-08-2002, 06:24 AM

We are all responsible for our actions, in one form or another.

To Darkfudge, sorry, suck it up.

I strongly desire for this information to remain private. As a member of an on-line league, I don't want even the POSSIBILITY of someone else knowing this information.

Thanks.

Great game.

Draft Dodger · 04-08-2002, 08:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa:

My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature.<hr /></blockquote>I tried talent only for a bit, but had a hell of a time due to the lack of history (it's a 2 year old league) and a lack of career minor league stats (I'm a master at the subtle hint, eh?).

I settled on reduced ratings, which I'm generally happy with. I do wish there was a way to reflect lefty/righty splits on reduced ratings, but I can cope for the time being.

04-05-2002, 10:17 AM	#1
DarkFudge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 60	Is there a way to UNLOCK TRADITIONAL and set to TALENT ONLY? folks...is there a way I can unlock this somehow...I locked my career and have now been reading that TALENT ONLY is more realistic than Traditional!!.....Is there a way to do it somewhere in the game directory by editing some files or something? Please help!

04-07-2002, 03:28 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,035	I do not know of one, but I've never tried. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-07-2002, 03:33 PM	#5
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	What's the difference between Traditional and Talent? I've never messed with this setting because I don't fully understand it. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-07-2002, 03:35 PM	#7
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	[quote]Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa: <strong>What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.</strong><hr></blockquote> Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.

04-07-2002, 03:39 PM	#8
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	[quote]Originally posted by JML: <strong> Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.</strong><hr></blockquote> But back up my league first, right? __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-07-2002, 03:25 PM	#2
DarkFudge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 60	guys...c'mon!! help me out here...PLEEEEASE I'm dying to try this out in my existing career ....I'm even willing to hack WINDOWS REGISTRY FILES if I have to...but it cant be that much work...could it? Surely its just a data file somewhere that needs to be edited? thanks a bunch!

04-07-2002, 03:28 PM	#3
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	I don't think you can get to it once it's locked. Steve or Markus would have to confirm - but my guess is once it's locked - that's it for that league. Anyone ?

04-07-2002, 03:34 PM	#6
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	I think thats the whole point of locking it. No matter how tempted you are, you can't change it. In your case you want to actually make it more challenging, but either way, I think you're stuck with the rating system you locked to begin with.

04-07-2002, 04:40 PM	#9
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	[quote] But back up my league first, right? <hr></blockquote> You shouldn't have to do that, as long as you don't lock it. Just change to the one that you aren't on now and then look at your player's ratings. Then just switch back whenever you're ready. __________________

04-07-2002, 07:05 PM	#10
dasperp Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 61	I like Talent only better. It's a lot harder to evaluate talent and you have to rely more on stats. I tried switching it back and it wasn't nearly as enjoyable.

04-07-2002, 07:29 PM	#11
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Markus, if it is possible please do not tell us how to do it. My main concern would be having it abused in online leagues. If you are in a solo league don't lock it and you won't have a problem. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

04-07-2002, 07:43 PM	#12
DarkFudge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 60	Listen...i want to know so...please dont tell Markus not to tell us, but rather tell him to EMAIL or PRIVATE MESSAGE the person that asked ( ME ) thank you

04-07-2002, 10:42 PM	#13
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 478	sorry Darkfudge I have to agree with Tiger Fan....what good is a lock feature if you know how to unlock it. I relize its your league and you have a right todo with it as you please. But if he tells you how to undo the lock and then someone else wants to know so he tells him and etc. next thing you know net leagues have no way to know if your cheating. Just start a fresh league and this time dont lock it.

04-08-2002, 03:36 AM	#14
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by DarkFudge: <strong>Listen...i want to know so...please dont tell Markus not to tell us, but rather tell him to EMAIL or PRIVATE MESSAGE the person that asked ( ME )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sorry, DarkFudge. It is nothing against you personally but Markus simply can't release that imformation. It would destroy the feauture particularily with regard to online leagues. The option to lock is there for a reason. If we all learn how to unlock it than it becomes pointless to have the hidden ratings at all. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

04-08-2002, 03:54 AM	#15
DarkFudge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 60	Listen to me please...I dont play online leagues and I have no desire to "share" any "secrets" with anyone....I simply made a mistake with my own personal league and wish to change the league to view Talent Only since everyone seems to say its more realistic. I've committed simply too many seasons into my little 'fantasy world' to just start over....this is preposterous to think that I cannot just ask a request of this basic nature. I can understand your side and am even willing to have the OOTP team "DO" it for me if I mail them the file or whatever would be needed just to protect what is sacred....I just want to enjoy the game to it's fullest without having to redo everything that I vested so much time into doing.

04-08-2002, 04:40 AM	#16
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JML: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa: <strong>What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Okay, so I tried it and it was pretty self-explanatory. That's what I get for responding to things like this when I'm at work and aren't able to actually run the game. My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-08-2002, 05:02 AM	#17
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JML: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa: <strong>What's the difference between Traditional and Talent.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Try it. It's pretty self-explanatory.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Okay, so I tried it and it was pretty self-explanatory. That's what I get for responding to things like this when I'm at work and aren't able to actually run the game. My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Talent only forces you to go with historical performance and would be extremely difficult, without some historical performance to base it on... so its not the best way to go the first year or two of a league (IMO); but after a few years of simming when you have a feel for a few players on the team it could be neat to switch over and have to go on results and the players overall talent which would make the game pretty challenging.

04-08-2002, 06:24 AM	#18
DennisS Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 107	We are all responsible for our actions, in one form or another. To Darkfudge, sorry, suck it up. I strongly desire for this information to remain private. As a member of an on-line league, I don't want even the POSSIBILITY of someone else knowing this information. Thanks. Great game.

04-08-2002, 08:22 AM	#19
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by joshuaaaaaa: <strong> My difficulty with going on straight Talent is that not all players have developed into their full talent ratings, so it can be pretty misleading. To me, using "reduced" would present a pretty good challenge, and would be more realistic than "Talent only." I'd be curious about others experience with this feature.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I tried talent only for a bit, but had a hell of a time due to the lack of history (it's a 2 year old league) and a lack of career minor league stats (I'm a master at the subtle hint, eh?). I settled on reduced ratings, which I'm generally happy with. I do wish there was a way to reflect lefty/righty splits on reduced ratings, but I can cope for the time being. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.