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Old 10-27-2004, 01:19 PM   #1
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2004 World Series is being run on OOTP6!

As I watch the World Series and think to myself that it is completely unrealistic that a 105 win team would suddenly disappear once it makes it to the World Series but then I realized...Bud Selig is running this World Series using OOTP6!!!!

I mean how many times have you seen it in online leagues or solo leagues where a great team suddenly sucks for no reason?!? It happens all the time because of the randomness of the game and now we are seeing it in real life.

Maybe OOTP isn't as messed up as I thought?!?! Maybe Bud Selig was part of the design team that created OOTP!?!?!

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I've lived it, my 2007 team won 122 games and didn't even make it to the World Series. We lost in seven games in the LCS in which the ROAD team won every game!!!

Of course for the 2nd year in a row My Cy Young Award winner got hurt in the 1st round of the playoffs....it's a conspiracy I tell ya
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:42 PM   #3
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I am sure Bud Selig was not on the design team. If he was, OOTP Developments would go out of business. I loath Bud Selig with all my passion and I can't wait for him to resign from commissioner. He is the worst thing to happen to baseball since the Black Sox scandal. I mean that!
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:49 PM   #4
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I am sure Bud Selig was not on the design team. If he was, OOTP Developments would go out of business. I loath Bud Selig with all my passion and I can't wait for him to resign from commissioner. He is the worst thing to happen to baseball since the Black Sox scandal. I mean that!
Thank you for your ******ness. I'm sure you just what to harp on the bad stuff that has happened under his watch but care to look at the good? Baseball came out from the 1994 strike a lot better then what was imagined. Ofcourse 1998 and Bonds helped the cause but what about stuff like the Wild Card?
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:55 PM   #5
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Thank you for your ******ness. I'm sure you just what to harp on the bad stuff that has happened under his watch but care to look at the good? Baseball came out from the 1994 strike a lot better then what was imagined. Ofcourse 1998 and Bonds helped the cause but what about stuff like the Wild Card?
Thank you for your insult. Please read the rules concerning behavior in this forum. Who ever is the mod, please read this quote. Forums are made for people to express their thoughts not be made to feel stupid about them. I stand by that opinion. If not for good ol' bud, there would not have been a strike, or a tie All Star Game from a few years back when 55000 people wanted them to play. There would also be more competition had he dealt with the owners and players right. Now about what Bonds and McGwire did in the late 90's, I equate that with Babe Ruth in the 20's after the Black Sox scandal. So thank you for your insult Mr. "I know everything about baseball and plan to shove it in everyone's face." I fail to see the good that he has done for MLB. All he has done is made it unpopular. The new national pasttime is basketball. I wish it were still baseball, but face facts, the commissionor is a moron. He has done no good for baseball and only bad. I think the guy needs to resign.

Now as far as calling me a ******, I hope that the moderators see this. There are rules in the forum for this kind of thing. If you see any of my posts in this forum I have not insulted anyone on here. I suggest you learn a little patience and I suggest that you learn to be a little nicer. You get more flies with honey.
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Oh, and to add to this, I think the wild card is dumb. Are we the NFL?
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Thank you for your ******ness.
Thank you for your neologism.
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I don't think Bud thinks at all. That's why the argument is a tie.

I did not mean to go on a rant about Bud. I was really only making a joke about Bud working for OOTP Developments. But then the moron in this thread called me a ******. So I had to state my point. I don't ever talk unless I am right, and in the rare instance when I am wrong, I need proof of it. That might be a little jerk-ish, but it is how I do things.

Sorry to all the others out there who have been reading my rants and the rants of a man who thinks that I am a ******.
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Exactly how long have you been watching baseball for? So basically teams with one great team in their divisions should basically just give up after May and fans should just stop coming to the park at that point since there's nothing left to play for. The Wildcard is what sparked the great second half runs from Boston and Houston. These teams would've packed it in if they didn't have the Wild Card to play for. There are 30 teams in baseball......you just want them going directly to a World Series? It'll never happen. Teams need the revenue. Plus Wildcard keeps things interesting late in the season.

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Actually your post was stupid all by itself.....even if I didn't bring attention to it. There are definitely REAL baseball fans on here who would've corrected you.

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If not for good ol' bud, there would not have been a strike,
Really? So appearantly all the work stoppages in baseball history have been because of Bud? You have a rather simplistic view of looking at things. What are you....12?

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or a tie All Star Game from a few years back when 55000 people wanted them to play.
How is that Bud Selig's fault? Blame the system for it. Teams have using all their players for years. What did you want them to do....mess with a young pitcher's arms? Can you imagine what would've happened if Freddy Garcia and whoever it was that was left to pitch for the NL had gotten injured?

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I fail to see the good that he has done for MLB. All he has done is made it unpopular.
Um...how?

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The new national pasttime is basketball.
Hahahahahahahahaha......can I stop laughing now? Ok...no. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA.

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Oh, and to add to this, I think the wild card is dumb. Are we the NFL?
I already stated why the Wildcard should be in.

Dude, and if someone calling you ******ed online bothers you......you're living one sad life.
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Am I allowed to post an opinion that you're both stupid? This is just a hypothetical question, of course, and I'm not necessarily saying I believe in the "******ness" of either of you. Then again, I'm not saying I don't either. I, of course, am stupid for even posting in this thread.

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Am I allowed to post an opinion that you're both stupid? This is just a hypothetical question, of course, and I'm not necessarily I believe in the "******ness" of either of you. Then again, I'm not saying I don't either. I, of course, am stupid for even posting in this thread.
go right ahead.....I don't believe in censoring.
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Exactly how long have you been watching baseball for? So basically teams with one great team in their divisions should basically just give up after May and fans should just stop coming to the park at that point since there's nothing left to play for. The Wildcard is what sparked the great second half runs from Boston and Houston. These teams would've packed it in if they didn't have the Wild Card to play for. There are 30 teams in baseball......you just want them going directly to a World Series? It'll never happen. Teams need the revenue. Plus Wildcard keeps things interesting late in the season.
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Actually your post was stupid all by itself.....even if I didn't bring attention to it. There are definitely REAL baseball fans on here who would've corrected you.
This is what I am talking about. Insults are not necessary here. Please go somewhere else if you are going to insult. I still stand by my opinion od Dud Selig. Yes, Dud.

I really hope that Steve or Markus are reading this.

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Really? So appearantly all the work stoppages in baseball history have been because of Bud? You have a rather simplistic view of looking at things. What are you....12?
24, but close. And no, there have been other work stoppages too, but 1994 was the clear result if Bud's management of the league and his failure to stop a crisis. If he had been a better manager of the league, we would have had perhaps the Expos with their only NL title. Now there is no Expos. Think about that. And I may be a Yankee fan, but lets be honest, the Expos would have destroyed them.


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How is that Bud Selig's fault? Blame the system for it. Teams have using all their players for years. What did you want them to do....mess with a young pitcher's arms? Can you imagine what would've happened if Freddy Garcia and whoever it was that was left to pitch for the NL had gotten injured?
Perhaps I concede this point. But it still upset a lot of people.


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Um...how?
All the reasons I have listed is how.


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Hahahahahahahahaha......can I stop laughing now? Ok...no. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA.?
Face it. Basketball makes way more money then baseball. Look at the NBA. I walk around every day and I here people talk about basketball this and football that. I never hear baseball talk anymore. This since 1994. The strike ended an era of baseball as the National Pasttime. It is a fact, not an opinion.


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I already stated why the Wildcard should be in..
Now here is where things get interesting. I still think the wild card is dumb. I think it is dumb in all sports. I can't do anything about it but watch and enjoy how baseball is. What I would love to see happen is 4 divisions in each league, in the post season 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. The winners advance and best record takes home field advantage in the LCS. Now as far as the World Series goes, I can take or leave the All Star game deciding who gets home field advantage. I think that should be a turn based thing personally, but I don't think its bad for baseball. But I stand by my statement about the Wild Card. In my opinion there is no place in post season for a second best team. The Yankees and the Astros should not have been there. Granted the Red Sox are about to win their first World Series in 80+ years, but if they had been good enough to be in first place they would not have to have sqeaked in through a Wild Card system that is poorly designed. I really believe that only the best teams should be in there. I also hate interleague play because it removes some of the mystery of picking a series winner if the two teams have faced each other in the regular season. It makes baseball less predictable. This, oh by the way, is another Bud approved invention.

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Dude, and if someone calling you ******ed online bothers you......you're living one sad life.
It doesn't generally bother me, but you made it a point to embarress me on this forum, which you are only doing to yourself. Now please, go back to bed son, and take your binkie with you.
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I must disagree that basketball is the national pasttime. Ever since '99, the year of the NBA strike, or lock out, or whatever, attendence is down. Considerably. Even more so that Jordan is no longer involved, Kobe's a rapist, etc. Don't get me wrong, I still watch it casually, but not nearly as much as I did.

I must say football is the new pasttime. Attendence is growing and everyone loves to hit people. The Super Bowl is the most-watched special every year, year in and year out. The NFL has a superb commissioner who helps the game, instead of hurting it (though I do hate replay...it adds a new twist).

Now, if you said hockey was the new pasttime, then I would act like the person who is arguing with you.
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I don't think there really is a national sport anymore. Up here where I live in New England, it's definitely baseball land. Go to the south, it's football. Other places, basketball. There are probably even a couple of hockey areas around.

If I had to pick the most far-reaching nationally, I'd probably pick football, but that's definitely not universal.
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Adding a 4th division is a pretty weak solution. That's basically a back door wildcard. As a matter of fact I'd rather have the wildcard where a bunch of team are in it rather then just weakening the divisions even more then they are already. I stand by my "******ed" statement after reading this solution you offered.

Dude the Red Sox were one of the 3 best teams in all of baseball this year.....and God knows what would've happened if Nomar and Trot Nixon weren't injured earlier in the year.


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I would agree that football is up there as well. You make a strong point. Perhaps Basketball is not the national pasttime, and football is. My point was that it is no longer baseball. I love baseball. Loved it since I was a kid and I was glad it was back. People used to ask me "how can you watch baseball after what happened?" My answer was always that why should I miss it now that its back, when I missed it when it was gone?


I just think this guy was looking to start a fight with someone in this forum, something I see a lot on here, and I am just not all for it. I hate fighting in chat rooms. It bugs me. Grow up, ya know?

But yes, football ranks. And I like their commissioner (although his name escapes me at this moment). lol about the Super Bowl? Only for the commercials. Just kidding.
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Again with the insults. I have done nothing to you. Is that all you have? It seems to me that you have no education and can't do anything to make yourself feel better except to put others down.


Please go back to bed like I said before. Your binkie is getting dry from lack of use.
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You have a better chance of capturing the best four teams with three divisions and a wild card than you do with four divisions. There's statistically a better chance of getting teams with a higher Win% in the playoffs. Plus, it can make divisions with a runaway winner more interesting. I like the wild card. I used to not like it, but it has grown on me.
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Oh, and adding a 4th division would make it very competitive if the schedule were back to a balanced set up, like they used to be. It would only not work if the schedule was unbalanced. I really stand by only first place teams going to the palyoffs. I don't like it any other way in any sport.
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