Has anyone seen a Star turn into a damn near dominant player?

One51 · 05-23-2002, 06:04 PM

I was playing a historical 1989 career, and during the 1990 season Doc Gooden turned into a super pitcher outta nowhere! He struck out 621 batters, and Nolan Ryan was second with like 290 or something...

I don't play it, I just sim to see outcomes, and I don't mess with any stats. Doc just turned into a vicious pitcher...He pitched a perfect game, and is almost a guarenteed 16 strikeout a game pitcher...He went 33-0 during the Regular season, and son all 4 of his playoff appearances...

Has anyone else had an ultimate player appear beinga pitcher or batter? I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....

[ 05-24-2002, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: One51 ]

Killebrew · 05-23-2002, 09:52 PM

Sorry - have not seen this yet occur with any player in maybe 1000 plus seasons going back to OOTP2. I have seen many excellent seasons but no 33-0 season with 600 K's, I'd hanker a guess that is a fairly uncommon result

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Dargone · 05-23-2002, 10:26 PM

That's just brutal <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

amdly · 05-24-2002, 05:22 AM

I've never seen any ficationally created player (although the originally created fictional players will have stars) become dominant. The top 3 leaders in the league are always within a few stats of each other. Hoepfullt the patch will help this problem.

chrisj · 05-24-2002, 05:51 AM

I've never seen anything like that before...

I have one pitcher whose had a couple really good seasons... 28-1 with a 2.34 ERA one season, 26-3 with a 2.40 ERA the second... this all goes along with his 6 straight Cy Young Awards - but, to be honest, I don't think he's ever really been dominat.

Sony · 05-24-2002, 08:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by One51:
I was playing a historical 1989 career, and during the 1990 season Doc Gooden turned into a super pitcher outta nowhere! He struck out 621 batters, and Nolan Ryan was second with like 290 or something...

I don't play it, I just sim to see outcomes, and I don't mess with any stats. Doc just turned into a vicious pitcher...He pitched a perfect game, and is almost a guarenteed 16 strikeout a game pitcher...He went 33-0 during the Regular season, and son all 4 of his playoff appearances...

Has anyone else had an ultimate player appear beinga pitcher or batter? I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....<hr /></blockquote>I really think your story is bogus.

My reason for this, was because I nearly maxed out Pedro Martinez's ratings, and the outcome of his stats were almost the same as yours. There is no way, the game would all of a sudden give Doc a 19 at K's, 20 at AVG, a so on ....

Sorry, but your story is wack. You'd have to manually adjust their ratings.

JML · 05-24-2002, 09:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Sony:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by One51:
[qb]I really think your story is bogus.

My reason for this, was because I nearly maxed out Pedro Martinez's ratings, and the outcome of his stats were almost the same as yours. There is no way, the game would all of a sudden give Doc a 19 at K's, 20 at AVG, a so on ....

Sorry, but your story is wack. You'd have to manually adjust their ratings.<hr /></blockquote>Why in the world would he make up a story just to post it here? I think there's a glitch in the game somewhere. Someone recently posted that a player got like 1000 AB in a season. Seems like the game is somehow adding extra stats to the player. Maybe 2 Doc Gooden's were acidentally created and their stats are going to one file.

Maple Leafs · 05-24-2002, 10:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by One51:
I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....<hr /></blockquote>Is it possible to have pitchers with ratings aboe 10? I thought I read somewhere that only a batter's HR rating could go to 11+.

Maybe I'm imagining things... I can't remember ever seeing a pitcher's rating over 10, but then, I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.

JML · 05-24-2002, 10:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Maple Leafs:
[QUOTE], I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.<hr /></blockquote>Huevos Rancheros?

Specs · 05-24-2002, 10:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Maple Leafs:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by One51:
I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....<hr /></blockquote>Is it possible to have pitchers with ratings aboe 10? I thought I read somewhere that only a batter's HR rating could go to 11+.

Maybe I'm imagining things... I can't remember ever seeing a pitcher's rating over 10, but then, I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.<hr /></blockquote>Pitcher's K rating, along with batters 3B, HR, and BB ratings, can go above 10. Most maximums are 64, but i think 3B can go up to 511.

One51 · 05-24-2002, 11:13 AM

First off the story isn't bogus. I also think it may have been a glitch, it's the first time it happened to me in 300+ seasons. I just figured I would post it here to see if anyone else has had this happen to them...

His K's are the only thing above 10, I just said 10 or above to make it easier.

Thanks for replying, maybe it was one of those once in a blue moon type mistakes or glitches...

cloakscott · 05-24-2002, 12:48 PM

In a fictional league, I am in my 38th year and in my 26th year I had a CF that came up at 21, and has dominated ever since. He has 606 career HR thru 12 seasons and has hit 72, 68, 64, 63, 57 in a season. He has led the league by 20 HR a few times. 2 Seasons ago he had a season ending injury but came back last year to hit 72 HR. Unfortunately his contact rating dropped from average to fair. However he is currently a 3/16/8 (yeah, 16 in HR) that was drafted and developed this way on his own (i alternate spring training from all human-all 5's, to all computer (ask coach) each year).
His career BA = .286, OBP = .401, SLG = .668

Oh and he has A range at CF too

Shorty · 05-24-2002, 03:56 PM

Whoever said 3B can go up to 511 is wrong. The highest is 20.

Rebellion · 05-24-2002, 07:17 PM

I had something similiar happen in my league, a batter got stats for pitching his stats were as follows:

23,146 Hits against
23,472 runs

Everything else was normal (zero) for pitching stats. Must have been some kind of a glitch.

mtw · 05-24-2002, 10:13 PM

Glitches happen:

My just completed season saw the league's worst pitcher, in 278 innings, give up 9 runs, of which 234 were earned... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

P.S. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the "Runs Allowed" stat resets at 255. Just a guess...

P.P.S. That pitcher was, and still is, scouted as a "No.2 or No. 3" starter. I'd be interested to see who that scout considers an "Average" or "Middle of the Pack" starter...

kingnebwsu · 05-24-2002, 10:48 PM

In OOTP 3 I had a player for Cincy that had like a 10 or 11 in batting average and his career average was like .360 or something. Maybe higher (too tired to look now). For a 5-year period his mean average was .400. He eclipsed .400 in 3 of those years (in a row), and the two other years was over .390. At last check he was in his mid-30's, so maybe I should bootup that career to see how much more butt he kicks

-Ben

Specs · 05-25-2002, 12:37 PM

I actually did have Ted Williams turn into a monster in a 1953 career (but the reason is based in his stats of .407, 13 HR in 91 at bats). He, Ray Searage, Shane Spencer, Caesar Cedeno, Bob Milacki, Elmer Valo, Earl Moore, Bob Lillis, Todd Haney, and Phil Clark can all EXPLODE in your leagues depending on your import numbers.

Specs · 05-25-2002, 01:37 PM

Follow up: I've replayed a few of the above seasons and gotten the following results:

Williams: .371, 65 HR, 169 RBI, BOS wins championship.

Spencer: .309, 80 HR, 200 RBI, NY wins 121 games & championship.

Milacki: 21-10, 2.24 ERA for Baltimore (league's worst team), allowed .149 OAVG.

hellfrozeover · 05-25-2002, 01:48 PM

Create a player, set all his ratings to zero and see what happens....methinks you'll have quite the amusing surprise.

P.S. I got this when I created a fake player to represent a teams draft picks as a reminder at the end of the season. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Specs · 05-25-2002, 02:58 PM

Thus far "Justin Byrge" is 6-65.

05-23-2002, 06:04 PM	#1
One51 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 49	Has anyone seen a Star turn into a damn near dominant player? I was playing a historical 1989 career, and during the 1990 season Doc Gooden turned into a super pitcher outta nowhere! He struck out 621 batters, and Nolan Ryan was second with like 290 or something... I don't play it, I just sim to see outcomes, and I don't mess with any stats. Doc just turned into a vicious pitcher...He pitched a perfect game, and is almost a guarenteed 16 strikeout a game pitcher...He went 33-0 during the Regular season, and son all 4 of his playoff appearances... Has anyone else had an ultimate player appear beinga pitcher or batter? I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him.... <small>[ 05-24-2002, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: One51 ]</small>

05-23-2002, 09:52 PM	#2
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	Sorry - have not seen this yet occur with any player in maybe 1000 plus seasons going back to OOTP2. I have seen many excellent seasons but no 33-0 season with 600 K's, I'd hanker a guess that is a fairly uncommon result. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

05-23-2002, 10:26 PM	#3
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	That's just brutal <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-24-2002, 05:51 AM	#5
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	I've never seen anything like that before... I have one pitcher whose had a couple really good seasons... 28-1 with a 2.34 ERA one season, 26-3 with a 2.40 ERA the second... this all goes along with his 6 straight Cy Young Awards - but, to be honest, I don't think he's ever really been dominat. __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

05-24-2002, 08:56 AM	#6
Sony Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lafayette. LA Posts: 65	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by One51: <strong>I was playing a historical 1989 career, and during the 1990 season Doc Gooden turned into a super pitcher outta nowhere! He struck out 621 batters, and Nolan Ryan was second with like 290 or something... I don't play it, I just sim to see outcomes, and I don't mess with any stats. Doc just turned into a vicious pitcher...He pitched a perfect game, and is almost a guarenteed 16 strikeout a game pitcher...He went 33-0 during the Regular season, and son all 4 of his playoff appearances... Has anyone else had an ultimate player appear beinga pitcher or batter? I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I really think your story is bogus. My reason for this, was because I nearly maxed out Pedro Martinez's ratings, and the outcome of his stats were almost the same as yours. There is no way, the game would all of a sudden give Doc a 19 at K's, 20 at AVG, a so on .... Sorry, but your story is wack. You'd have to manually adjust their ratings.

05-24-2002, 05:22 AM	#4
amdly Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 7	I've never seen any ficationally created player (although the originally created fictional players will have stars) become dominant. The top 3 leaders in the league are always within a few stats of each other. Hoepfullt the patch will help this problem.

05-24-2002, 09:27 AM	#7
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sony: <strong>[QUOTE]Originally posted by One51: [qb]I really think your story is bogus. My reason for this, was because I nearly maxed out Pedro Martinez's ratings, and the outcome of his stats were almost the same as yours. There is no way, the game would all of a sudden give Doc a 19 at K's, 20 at AVG, a so on .... Sorry, but your story is wack. You'd have to manually adjust their ratings.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why in the world would he make up a story just to post it here? I think there's a glitch in the game somewhere. Someone recently posted that a player got like 1000 AB in a season. Seems like the game is somehow adding extra stats to the player. Maybe 2 Doc Gooden's were acidentally created and their stats are going to one file.

05-24-2002, 10:11 AM	#8
Maple Leafs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 234	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by One51: <strong>I checked Gooden's ratings, and almost everything is 10 or above...He's awesome, and I wish I woulda played, and traded for him....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Is it possible to have pitchers with ratings aboe 10? I thought I read somewhere that only a batter's HR rating could go to 11+. Maybe I'm imagining things... I can't remember ever seeing a pitcher's rating over 10, but then, I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.

05-24-2002, 10:16 AM	#9
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Maple Leafs: <strong>[QUOTE], I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Huevos Rancheros?

05-24-2002, 11:13 AM	#11
One51 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 49	First off the story isn't bogus. I also think it may have been a glitch, it's the first time it happened to me in 300+ seasons. I just figured I would post it here to see if anyone else has had this happen to them... His K's are the only thing above 10, I just said 10 or above to make it easier. Thanks for replying, maybe it was one of those once in a blue moon type mistakes or glitches...

05-24-2002, 12:48 PM	#12
cloakscott Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13	In a fictional league, I am in my 38th year and in my 26th year I had a CF that came up at 21, and has dominated ever since. He has 606 career HR thru 12 seasons and has hit 72, 68, 64, 63, 57 in a season. He has led the league by 20 HR a few times. 2 Seasons ago he had a season ending injury but came back last year to hit 72 HR. Unfortunately his contact rating dropped from average to fair. However he is currently a 3/16/8 (yeah, 16 in HR) that was drafted and developed this way on his own (i alternate spring training from all human-all 5's, to all computer (ask coach) each year). His career BA = .286, OBP = .401, SLG = .668 Oh and he has A range at CF too

05-24-2002, 03:56 PM	#13
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	Whoever said 3B can go up to 511 is wrong. The highest is 20. __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

05-24-2002, 07:17 PM	#14
Rebellion Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 26	I had something similiar happen in my league, a batter got stats for pitching his stats were as follows: 23,146 Hits against 23,472 runs Everything else was normal (zero) for pitching stats. Must have been some kind of a glitch.

05-24-2002, 10:13 PM	#15
mtw All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 653	Glitches happen: My just completed season saw the league's worst pitcher, in 278 innings, give up 9 runs, of which 234 were earned... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> P.S. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the "Runs Allowed" stat resets at 255. Just a guess... P.P.S. That pitcher was, and still is, scouted as a "No.2 or No. 3" starter. I'd be interested to see who that scout considers an "Average" or "Middle of the Pack" starter... __________________ Over-Zealous Apologist

05-24-2002, 10:48 PM	#16
kingnebwsu Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 127	In OOTP 3 I had a player for Cincy that had like a 10 or 11 in batting average and his career average was like .360 or something. Maybe higher (too tired to look now). For a 5-year period his mean average was .400. He eclipsed .400 in 3 of those years (in a row), and the two other years was over .390. At last check he was in his mid-30's, so maybe I should bootup that career to see how much more butt he kicks -Ben

05-25-2002, 01:48 PM	#19
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Create a player, set all his ratings to zero and see what happens....methinks you'll have quite the amusing surprise. P.S. I got this when I created a fake player to represent a teams draft picks as a reminder at the end of the season. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs