What Difference Does Velocity Make?

Tito · 10-04-2004, 04:20 PM

I'm in Spring Training and was thinking about trying to improve a pitcher's velocity. Question is: Why?

Please correct my thinking:
Stuff corresponds to Hits allowed.
Movement corresponds to HR and Doubles allowed.
Control corresponds to BB and K's.

Does velocity correlate to anything? If not, it's a useless rating.

Also, re:Stuff, Movement, Control, in which order would you place emphasis when trying to improve a player? thanks.

Steve Kuffrey · 10-04-2004, 04:26 PM

Velocity=strikeouts.

jbmagic · 10-04-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Velocity=strikeouts.

i tought stuff=strikeouts

kingcharlesxii · 10-04-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i tought stuff=strikeouts

They both do. A guy with high stuff and low velocity won't strike out many. The same thing with low stuff and high velocity.

Ktulu · 10-04-2004, 05:40 PM

I think they both contribute to strikeouts while movement mostly affects homeruns allowed and control affects walks.

nestajones · 10-04-2004, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Velocity=strikeouts.

I thought this was supposed to be the case, but it turned out it had not been done that way - i.e, velocity turned out to be window dressing. Did it get fixed?

Has anyone studied it to see if it truly has an effect?

Dan Theman · 10-04-2004, 09:02 PM

Velocity is NOT window dressing in v.6, but the true effects are very difficult to study while the pitcher editor is (unfortunately) broken.

Tito · 10-07-2004, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the comments.

Question 1: So I got that pitcher's velocity and control to improve in Spring Training. It said so in Player Development. However, when I look at the player's page (web), nothing has changed. Is this a bug?

Question 2: Mr. Kuffrey says that velocity = strikeouts. What does everything else correspond to?
My guess:
Stuff = hits (inc. doubles)
Movement = homeruns
Control = walks
Runs = combination of all?

thanks again.

jaxmagicman · 10-07-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito

Thanks for the comments.

Question 1: So I got that pitcher's velocity and control to improve in Spring Training. It said so in Player Development. However, when I look at the player's page (web), nothing has changed. Is this a bug?

Question 2: Mr. Kuffrey says that velocity = strikeouts. What does everything else correspond to?
My guess:
Stuff = hits (inc. doubles)
Movement = homeruns
Control = walks
Runs = combination of all?

thanks again.

I actually don't think pitchers have much say in runs allowed, other than the homeruns they give up.

Vezna31 · 10-07-2004, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito

Thanks for the comments.

Question 1: So I got that pitcher's velocity and control to improve in Spring Training. It said so in Player Development. However, when I look at the player's page (web), nothing has changed. Is this a bug?

Question 2: Mr. Kuffrey says that velocity = strikeouts. What does everything else correspond to?
My guess:
Stuff = hits (inc. doubles)
Movement = homeruns
Control = walks
Runs = combination of all?

thanks again.

Stuff corresponds mostly to strikeouts.

Dan Theman · 10-07-2004, 11:34 AM

Sometimes when a player seems to improve in an area, it's by a fraction of a point, which the game internally tracks. From my impressions, it also has more of an effect on development curves. In short, Spring Training can and will influence all ratings.

jbmagic · 10-07-2004, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito

Thanks for the comments.

Question 1: So I got that pitcher's velocity and control to improve in Spring Training. It said so in Player Development. However, when I look at the player's page (web), nothing has changed. Is this a bug?

Question 2: Mr. Kuffrey says that velocity = strikeouts. What does everything else correspond to?
My guess:
Stuff = hits (inc. doubles)
Movement = homeruns
Control = walks
Runs = combination of all?

thanks again.

stuff=strikeouts

Tito · 10-08-2004, 11:32 AM

The admin says Velocity = Strikeouts

Two posters say Stuff = Strikeouts

This is the only game I've ever bought that didn't come with instructions/handbook/manual.

The "figure it out for yourself" approach is not appealing at all.

kingcharlesxii · 10-08-2004, 11:36 AM

They both influence strikeouts. If a player has high ratings in both, he'll get a lot more strikeouts than a guy who is good at only one of them.

Jonzard · 10-08-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito

The admin says Velocity = Strikeouts

Two posters say Stuff = Strikeouts

This is the only game I've ever bought that didn't come with instructions/handbook/manual.

The "figure it out for yourself" approach is not appealing at all.

I agree, for the umpteenth time. A manual would answer a lot of peoples questions. I still remember the claim it would be out shortly after the release of the game. Months and months ago.

But if the efforts are being put towards the patch, thats gotta have priority.

Tito · 10-08-2004, 02:05 PM

I don't want to turn this into another Manaul thread.

Thanks for the comments.

Jonzard, I don't recall the pancakes in the Prince skit.
Go Yanks!

10-04-2004, 04:20 PM	#1
Tito Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 149	What Difference Does Velocity Make? I'm in Spring Training and was thinking about trying to improve a pitcher's velocity. Question is: Why? Please correct my thinking: Stuff corresponds to Hits allowed. Movement corresponds to HR and Doubles allowed. Control corresponds to BB and K's. Does velocity correlate to anything? If not, it's a useless rating. Also, re:Stuff, Movement, Control, in which order would you place emphasis when trying to improve a player? thanks.

10-04-2004, 04:26 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,035	Velocity=strikeouts. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-04-2004, 05:40 PM	#5
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,710	I think they both contribute to strikeouts while movement mostly affects homeruns allowed and control affects walks. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

10-08-2004, 11:36 AM	#14
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,731	They both influence strikeouts. If a player has high ratings in both, he'll get a lot more strikeouts than a guy who is good at only one of them. __________________ Formerly in the OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

10-07-2004, 10:42 AM	#8
Tito Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 149	Thanks for the comments. Question 1: So I got that pitcher's velocity and control to improve in Spring Training. It said so in Player Development. However, when I look at the player's page (web), nothing has changed. Is this a bug? Question 2: Mr. Kuffrey says that velocity = strikeouts. What does everything else correspond to? My guess: Stuff = hits (inc. doubles) Movement = homeruns Control = walks Runs = combination of all? thanks again.

10-08-2004, 11:32 AM	#13
Tito Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 149	The admin says Velocity = Strikeouts Two posters say Stuff = Strikeouts This is the only game I've ever bought that didn't come with instructions/handbook/manual. The "figure it out for yourself" approach is not appealing at all.

10-08-2004, 02:05 PM	#16
Tito Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 149	I don't want to turn this into another Manaul thread. Thanks for the comments. Jonzard, I don't recall the pancakes in the Prince skit. Go Yanks!