OOTP 6 / ITP development update

Markus Heinsohn · 09-19-2004, 10:35 AM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...250#post850250

Discuss!

Hemler24 · 09-19-2004, 10:46 AM

Great to hear the the update will be soon markus

Ben E Lou · 09-19-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus

First, I'd like to apologize for the lack of updates recently. I moved back to Germany the past 1 1/2 weeks, and therefore was not online much and could not get much work done. The reason for the move is that Andreas (developer of TB) will be the assistant programmer for OOTP:SI, so I need to be in Germany far more often than I initially thought when I moved to London. I will keep a flat in London, and in a couple of months I will be there more often again.

OK, on to the updates. Bugfixing OOTP 6 is almost done, and the AI has been improved. Actually, I found a bug that may be the reason for a lot of strange AI roster moves (releasing allstar caliber players for example). Also, aging/development was revisited, and I am happy with the results so far.

Head to head. Well. I am really frustrated about this. When I started coding H2H before release, the first 50% went really well, but then I found out that the networking library I initially wanted to use didn't work the way I wanted/needed. So I basically had to write networking stuff on my own, and frankly, I had no idea how hard that would be. I will not give up, but I will no longer post a timetable for this feature. So, the next OOTP 6 update/patch will not include H2H. That means it will be released in the very near future.

Once the OOTP 6 update is done, I'll shift my focus to the ITP patch. It'll fix the reported bugs and include a couple of new feaures.

Again, sorry for the lack of updates lately and this H2H disaster. But, I guess I'm human and just made a mistake by vastly underestimating the amount of work/time this feature would take to proper implement it.

CU soon!
Markus

Thanks for the info, Markus. I've had some interaction with Markus about the aging/development issues, and I'm looking forward to seeing the implementation!

--Ben

pat · 09-19-2004, 10:51 AM

Thanks, you're still alive. :P

At least, we heard an update from you and its nice that you talked about H2H. Hope you'll figure it out soon.

Dan Theman · 09-19-2004, 11:19 AM

Excellent news! (minus h2h, anyway).

PS - how do I get a flat in London? That would be a completely awesome way to get chicks...

Jayzone · 09-19-2004, 11:47 AM

Good news, except H2H. Thanks for the status update. I too hope you can figure out H2H sometime in the future. I wil be looking forward to the new OOTP update.

Can we get also a status update on the manual, please? Thanks.

Sidenote: I hope this is the sign of more frequent status reports/updates from Markus in the future. If that's true, a big thanks.

Markus Heinsohn · 09-19-2004, 11:48 AM

The manual is still being worked at... I'll ask Steve for a timetable

Jayzone · 09-19-2004, 11:51 AM

Wow, that is quick. Thanks, Markus.

It sure looks like we will be seeing more frequent status updates on the board in the future. Thanks.

Markus Heinsohn · 09-19-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayzone

Wow, that is quick. Thanks, Markus.

It sure looks like we will be seeing more frequent status updates on the board in the future. Thanks.

I'll give my best!

CBLCardinals · 09-19-2004, 12:07 PM

Good to see you back Markus!

Do you have "Can't Pinch Run for a DH Bug" still on your radar?

Frustrating when its late in a game to have some Matt Stairs-esqe clone cloggin' up the base paths.

JDOldSchool · 09-19-2004, 12:16 PM

The update is nice, but I'd be careful about saying "Bugfixing OOTP 6 is almost done" because everybody knows that someone will discover SOMETHING somwhere down the line.

But I don't expect a 100% bug-free game. As long as the big things are fixed I'll be happy.

And for everyone who has complained about lack of updates - a couple months ago Markus said he'd have an update out before the playoffs. Maybe I'm the only one that has faith, but I'd be surprised if something was not released within the next two weeks. There may be no H2H in it, but it'll be an update nonetheless.

Chappy · 09-19-2004, 12:20 PM

Quote:

CU soon!
Markus

'CU next year!'

(this is not a knock on Markus's infrequent posts. It is a knock at the play-by-play. Well, not so much a knock as a play on the play-by-play.)

jbmagic · 09-19-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Thanks for the info, Markus. I've had some interaction with Markus about the aging/development issues, and I'm looking forward to seeing the implementation!

--Ben

have you told markus to change the default player AI evaluation setting ?

Malleus Dei · 09-19-2004, 01:10 PM

"Bugfixing OOTP 6 is almost done, and the AI has been improved."

All the reported bugs? Woo, I hope so. Good news in any case.

Well, that's two out of five. That still leaves: H2H, manual, and PbP.

Malleus Dei · 09-19-2004, 01:11 PM

Whoops, forgot the importing problems. Two out of six.

jbmagic · 09-19-2004, 01:14 PM

Markus

thanks that good news

anyway you can tell us what bugs are fix? can you post a list..

this way when update comes out we wont be surprise....we will know which bugs that has been reported was fix...

thanks

Ben E Lou · 09-19-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

have you told markus to change the default player AI evaluation setting ?

It may not be necessary. He has discovered and fixed a bug with the way the AI was evaluating players.

mlyons · 09-19-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

Good to see you back Markus!

Do you have "Can't Pinch Run for a DH Bug" still on your radar?

Frustrating when its late in a game to have some Matt Stairs-esqe clone cloggin' up the base paths.

Is this still happening? I haven't attempted to pinch-run for my DH in a while, but I guess I assumed that since the "can't pinch-hit for a DH" bug was fixed, the pinch-running was as well. Dang.

Cuss16 · 09-19-2004, 02:33 PM

thank you markus, looking forward to it.

Eugene Church · 09-19-2004, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the status report.

(taken from an earlier post by jbmagic)
"anyway you can tell us what bugs are fix? can you post a list..

this way when update comes out we wont be surprise....we will know which bugs that has been reported was fix..."

Hope you will make a practice of giving them to us on a regular monthly or quarterly basis...even if it contains things that will disappoint some of us.

Most of us realize you can't do the impossible and appreciate you communicating with us even when you can't take care of all our pet peeves.
Just let us know when it is impossible or improbable to do something.

Also, if you did promise H2H...you need to do something for the ones that wanted it...I am not interested in it, so there is no complaint from me...all I want is all/most of the basic play-by-play results that happen in a normal baseball game.

Don't be a stranger on the board.

Welcome back and Y'all come again real soon, ya hear.

09-19-2004, 10:35 AM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	OOTP 6 / ITP development update #2 http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...250#post850250 Discuss!

09-19-2004, 11:47 AM	#6
Jayzone All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 706	More frequent status updates from Markus in the future will be good news. Good news, except H2H. Thanks for the status update. I too hope you can figure out H2H sometime in the future. I wil be looking forward to the new OOTP update. Can we get also a status update on the manual, please? Thanks. Sidenote: I hope this is the sign of more frequent status reports/updates from Markus in the future. If that's true, a big thanks.

09-19-2004, 02:33 PM	#19
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	thank you markus, looking forward to it. __________________

09-19-2004, 03:28 PM	#20
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,205	Thanks for the status report. (taken from an earlier post by jbmagic) "anyway you can tell us what bugs are fix? can you post a list.. this way when update comes out we wont be surprise....we will know which bugs that has been reported was fix..." Hope you will make a practice of giving them to us on a regular monthly or quarterly basis...even if it contains things that will disappoint some of us. Most of us realize you can't do the impossible and appreciate you communicating with us even when you can't take care of all our pet peeves. Just let us know when it is impossible or improbable to do something. Also, if you did promise H2H...you need to do something for the ones that wanted it...I am not interested in it, so there is no complaint from me...all I want is all/most of the basic play-by-play results that happen in a normal baseball game. Don't be a stranger on the board. Welcome back and Y'all come again real soon, ya hear. Last edited by Eugene Church; 09-19-2004 at 03:40 PM.

09-19-2004, 10:46 AM	#2
Hemler24 Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	Great to hear the the update will be soon markus

09-19-2004, 10:51 AM	#4
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	Thanks, you're still alive. :P At least, we heard an update from you and its nice that you talked about H2H. Hope you'll figure it out soon.

09-19-2004, 11:48 AM	#7
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	The manual is still being worked at... I'll ask Steve for a timetable

09-19-2004, 11:51 AM	#8
Jayzone All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 706	Wow, that is quick. Thanks, Markus. It sure looks like we will be seeing more frequent status updates on the board in the future. Thanks.

09-19-2004, 12:07 PM	#10
CBLCardinals OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,009	Good to see you back Markus! Do you have "Can't Pinch Run for a DH Bug" still on your radar? Frustrating when its late in a game to have some Matt Stairs-esqe clone cloggin' up the base paths.

09-19-2004, 12:16 PM	#11
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	The update is nice, but I'd be careful about saying "Bugfixing OOTP 6 is almost done" because everybody knows that someone will discover SOMETHING somwhere down the line. But I don't expect a 100% bug-free game. As long as the big things are fixed I'll be happy. And for everyone who has complained about lack of updates - a couple months ago Markus said he'd have an update out before the playoffs. Maybe I'm the only one that has faith, but I'd be surprised if something was not released within the next two weeks. There may be no H2H in it, but it'll be an update nonetheless.

09-19-2004, 01:14 PM	#16
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	Markus thanks that good news anyway you can tell us what bugs are fix? can you post a list.. this way when update comes out we wont be surprise....we will know which bugs that has been reported was fix... thanks