clarification of waiver wire rules

[PSUColonel]

Time to concentrate. These are probably the most confusing thing of all the new stuff in OOTP6. When a team requests waivers on a player, they are usually, but not always, trying to take a player off a roster. There are two types of waivers. Revocable, and Irrevocable.

Revocable waivers are used when attempting to take a player off the 40-man roster. Say Joe Average is occupying a spot on the 40-man roster, but you need to make room for Fred Betterthanjoe, and the 40-man roster is full. Joe needs to come off the 40-man roster. Joe’s team will request revocable waivers on Joe Average, and every other team in the league has three days to “claim” him.

If no other team claims Joe, the team has a couple of options.

1. They can take him off the 40-man roster
2. They can now trade Joe, regardless of if the trading deadline has passed.

If someone DOES claim Joe, the club currently lowest in the standings gets the player, however a team in the league you are in will always get a player before a team in the other league. So if you’re Toronto and waive some high-payroll chump, even if Milwaukee decides they want the player, if the Yankees think “Come on, boys, he’ll put us over the $200M mark. Let’s do it!!!” The Yankees have priority over Milwaukee.


This was posted on Henry's site. The part I find untrue is where it says "The club must put the player on their 40-man roster. If they want to take him off, they must go through all this again. Rinse, Lather"

This does not appear to be the case. I claimed a player who went to my AAA squad. He is not listed on my 40 man roster.

[Ktulu]

This does not appear to be the case. I claimed a player who went to my AAA squad. He is not listed on my 40 man roster.

Yup thats the way it currently works and is one of the side effects of players automatically being placed at AAA... see the links in my sig for more info.

[PSUColonel]

Also- it seems when I place a claim on a player, the player disappears from the waiver wire, but a couple of days later, I am informed I've successfully claimed him. what gives?

[PSUColonel]

Is there anywhere to get a comprehensive look at how Waivers work in OOTP6?

[sporr]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Is there anywhere to get a comprehensive look at how Waivers work in OOTP6?

What other info are you looking for? It's summed up pretty well in your 1st post.

[RayofHope]

I don't think that's entirely correct.

Mainly the part about revocable waivers being used to remove players from the 40 man roster.

Isn't a waiver also revocable if you are demoting someone from your active big league team to the minors, and said player is NOT out of minor league options?

I'm 90% sure this is the case, but I've been wrong before.

[wish7694]

Originally Posted by RayofHope

I don't think that's entirely correct.

Isn't a waiver also revocable if you are demoting someone from your active big league team to the minors, and said player is NOT out of minor league options?

Why would you place a player with options on waivers unless you were taking him off of the 40 man roster?

[RayofHope]

I'm a dumbass.



All the talk in the other thread about revocable v irrevocable waivers and irrevocable guys being able to be removed if claimed got me all mixed up.

I don't do that . . . just got confused.

[PSUColonel]

I think we need a bullet point simplification manual with input given by Markus.

[Ktulu]

I think we need a bullet point simplification manual with input given by Markus.

The first problem is that the MLB system is a little bit complicated. The second problem, (the bigger problem IMO), is that OOTP doesnt fully implement the MLB system and as a result some rules work and others don't. This just adds to the confusion. Then you throw in the transaction interface and...

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by Ktulu

The first problem is that the MLB system is a little bit complicated. The second problem, (the bigger problem IMO), is that OOTP doesnt fully implement the MLB system and as a result some rules work and others don't. This just adds to the confusion. Then you throw in the transaction interface and...

I aggree with what you're saying, but there must be a set of rules for OOTP and how waivers pertain to the game and just the game. That's why we need a manual and we need Markus' help.

[Ktulu]

I believe(actually I really hope) that the whole roster system is a work in progress so it will be difficult to cover everything in a manual and things will change(again I hope), making a manual innacurate. Still it would be helpfull to have a thread that covers everything.

[cgh3rd]

Doesn't years of service factor into the revocable vs. irrevocable?

I think that if a player is eligible to become a free agent and/or has run out options then that player must be placed on irrevocable waivers. While players who still have options can proceed through the waiver process. Does any of that make sense? If not I will go back to lurking only.

[sporr]

Originally Posted by cgh3rd

Doesn't years of service factor into the revocable vs. irrevocable?

I think that if a player is eligible to become a free agent and/or has run out options then that player must be placed on irrevocable waivers. While players who still have options can proceed through the waiver process. Does any of that make sense? If not I will go back to lurking only.

Irrevocable waivers are used in the game to remove a player who has run out of options from the active roster. But I don't think this has anything to do with Years of Pro Service.

[cgh3rd]

Originally Posted by sporr

Irrevocable waivers are used in the game to remove a player who has run out of options from the active roster. But I don't think this has anything to do with Years of Pro Service.

So when the player's options are up is when you see irrevocable waivers message instead of just placing on waiver wire pop up?

[blackrussian]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Also- it seems when I place a claim on a player, the player disappears from the waiver wire, but a couple of days later, I am informed I've successfully claimed him. what gives?

i noticed this too after freaking out for a sec because i thought the player i claimed was pulled back or claimed by another team. i ended up going to the transaction screen of the team that was waiving the player and seeing him on the waiver list, SMITH, 0 days left, claimed by CHI.

its a bit confusing, since this last part of waivers isnt reflected anywhere until the player is formally transferred to your team. so in theory, you could lose a waiver claim at the last minute but not know unless you specifically checked that team or waited for the transaction to post the next day.

v'

[sporr]

Originally Posted by cgh3rd

So when the player's options are up is when you see irrevocable waivers message instead of just placing on waiver wire pop up?

Right, if the player is out of options and you try to move him off of the active roster to the minors, you'll get a warning box that will tell you that the player must pass through irrevocable waivers first. At that point, you can click Yes or No to continue.