Reds Top Three Reasons . . .

cooper_gd · 05-26-2004, 12:24 PM

They will make the playoffs:

#1 Starting Pitching - a gathering place for transient players who are suddenly putting together a nice run.
#2 Griffey, Kearns, Dunn healthy - For the first time - ever. Griffey appears to be regaining some form and confidence. Kearns and Dunn will be there if healthy.
#3 Danny Graves/bullpen - a save is not much, but it means that the Reds are winning. The guy is not "nails", but he is getting the job done.

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They will not make the playoffs:

#1 Starting pitching - a gathering place for transient players who will snap back to earth and start posting 6+ ERAs.
#2 Griffey, Kearns, Dunn - hurt. Has never NOT happened - why be optimistic?
#3 Danny Graves/bullpen - offense is the key now... what will happen to HR per outing Danny and a luke warm bullpen if the O dries up?

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Barry Larkin - according to Bill James (unofficial OOTP diety)

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While many marvel at what Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson are doing in their 40s, baseball historian Bill James is more impressed with Barry Larkin, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. "As long as I've been a baseball fan, there have been 40-year-old pitchers who were very effective," James told the newspaper. "Warren Spahn was 23-7 when he was 42. (Steve) Carlton was great when he was 40. There have been others who were very good in their 40s. But I don't know if I've ever seen a 40-year-old shortstop playing like he is." James has called Larkin "one of the 10 most complete players of all time."

cooper_gd · 05-26-2004, 12:31 PM

oops, was supposed to be a poll.

LivnLegend · 05-26-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by cooper_gd
oops, was supposed to be a poll.

No need for a poll. I speak for us all when I say the Reds won't make the playoffs!

lukster · 05-26-2004, 12:53 PM

legend's lock??

cheers
lukster

Akrobat · 05-26-2004, 01:00 PM

Three reasons why the Reds Won't Make the playoffs:

1) Starting Pitching
2) Outfield Injuries
3) Relievers

See, it works the other way as well

I'd love to see Ken Griffey Jr. and the Reds take the NL Central though, so let's hope they can do it!

Oh yeah before I forget... BARRY LARKIN FOR MVP!!!1995!!!

jaxmagicman · 05-26-2004, 01:02 PM

Top Three Reasons Reds won't make the Playoffs

1. Cubs
2. Astros
3. Cardinals

cooper_gd · 05-26-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by Akrobat
Three reasons why the Reds Won't Make the playoffs:

1) Starting Pitching
2) Outfield Injuries
3) Relievers

See, it works the other way as well

Wish I would have thought of that. :^)

cooper_gd · 05-26-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
Top Three Reasons Reds won't make the Playoffs

1. Cubs
2. Astros
3. Cardinals

We'll see. Cubbies might be pitching Dusty's great aunt by the time the seasons is at an end.

darkhorse · 05-26-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by cooper_gd
"I don't know if I've ever seen a 40-year-old shortstop playing like he is." James has called Larkin "one of the 10 most complete players of all time."

Honus Wagner whupped ass as a 40 year old SS. Luke Appling excelled as a 40 year old in the short field. Those are off the top of my head.

Course, neither fall into the "ever seen" category. But, I digress.

I realize James is on the pudgy side, but calling him a "diety" seems kind of harsh.

cooper_gd · 05-26-2004, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
Honus Wagner whupped ass as a 40 year old SS. Luke Appling excelled as a 40 year old in the short field. Those are off the top of my head.

Course, neither fall into the "ever seen" category. But, I digress.

I realize James is on the pudgy side, but calling him a "diety" seems kind of harsh.

Too true. He looks pretty good these days.

akw4572 · 05-26-2004, 08:27 PM

top 3 reason Reds will make the playoffs:

1. Dusty Baker
2. Tony Larussa
3. Jimy Williams

Skipaway · 05-26-2004, 09:55 PM

The Reds were just lucky. Their Pythagorean record is 4th in the division.

cinredsfan2000 · 05-26-2004, 10:48 PM

HEY IM W/COOP ON THIS THE PLANETS ARE ARE ALINED OR WHATEVER BUT MAN FOR A TEAM THAT WASNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE REMOTLEY COMPETITIVE WERE MAKING LOT OF KNOW IT ALLS EAT THERE WORDS LIKE PETER GAMMONS AS A PRIME EXAMPLE . HEY THE BAND WAGONS FILLING UP FAST BUT NOT QUITE AS FAST AS EVERYBODY JUMPING OFF THE SCRUBBIES BANDWAGON !

CommishJoe · 05-26-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by cinredsfan2000
HEY IM W/COOP ON THIS THE PLANETS ARE ARE ALINED OR WHATEVER BUT MAN FOR A TEAM THAT WASNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE REMOTLEY COMPETITIVE WERE MAKING LOT OF KNOW IT ALLS EAT THERE WORDS LIKE PETER GAMMONS AS A PRIME EXAMPLE . HEY THE BAND WAGONS FILLING UP FAST BUT NOT QUITE AS FAST AS EVERYBODY JUMPING OFF THE SCRUBBIES BANDWAGON !

Hopefully when the planets un-align, your caps lock key will get un-stuck.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

SoxWin · 05-26-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by cooper_gd
We'll see. Cubbies might be pitching Dusty's great aunt by the time the seasons is at an end.

And he'll pitch her until her arm falls off too.

Swan · 05-27-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by akw4572
top 3 reason Reds will make the playoffs:

1. Dusty Baker
2. Tony Larussa
3. Jimy Williams

Haha! Those have *got* to be the 3 top reasons the Reds have hope!

cooper_gd · 05-27-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by cinredsfan2000
HEY IM W/COOP ON THIS THE PLANETS ARE ARE ALINED OR WHATEVER BUT MAN FOR A TEAM THAT WASNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE REMOTLEY COMPETITIVE WERE MAKING LOT OF KNOW IT ALLS EAT THERE WORDS LIKE PETER GAMMONS AS A PRIME EXAMPLE . HEY THE BAND WAGONS FILLING UP FAST BUT NOT QUITE AS FAST AS EVERYBODY JUMPING OFF THE SCRUBBIES BANDWAGON !

Rock & Roll Reds brother! Keep preachin' - I'll, uh, be in the bathroom.

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05-26-2004, 01:00 PM	#5
Akrobat All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 922	Re: Reds Top Three Reasons . . . Three reasons why the Reds Won't Make the playoffs: 1) Starting Pitching 2) Outfield Injuries 3) Relievers See, it works the other way as well I'd love to see Ken Griffey Jr. and the Reds take the NL Central though, so let's hope they can do it! Oh yeah before I forget... BARRY LARKIN FOR MVP!!!1995!!! __________________ Writers-Bloc -- Boston Saints -1990: Player to be Announced

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	The Reds were just lucky. Their Pythagorean record is 4th in the division. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	top 3 reason Reds will make the playoffs: 1. Dusty Baker 2. Tony Larussa 3. Jimy Williams