Unbiased poll shows Gagnes streak is the greatest!

Karros270 · 05-24-2004, 02:34 PM

This unbiased poll from Dodgers.com shows what real fans think, that Gagne's streak of consecutive streaks is perhaps the greatest streak in history. Granted it's close but Gagne is winning by a comfortable lead right now.

Eric Gagne's consecutive saves
11536 votes (30%)

Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak
8807 votes (23%)

The cast of Friends staying together for 230 episodes
1308 votes (3%)

59 scoreless innings pitched by Orel Hershiser
6941 votes (18%)

Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive games played
9401 votes (25%)

Gastric ReFlux · 05-24-2004, 02:35 PM

Why isn't there an option for Ross Gload's streak? Is it because they know Gload would make Gagne look like a putz?

matskralc · 05-24-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Why isn't there an option for Ross Gload's streak? Is it because they know Gload would make Gagne look like a putz?

I think it's pretty obvious (even to Dodgers fans!) that the question is really about the second greatest streak of all time. Nobody can ever top The Gload's accomplishment.

Akrobat · 05-24-2004, 02:38 PM

Ignoring the unbiased part, why is Cal Ripken ahead of Joe DiMaggio?

Karros270 · 05-24-2004, 02:38 PM

It's hard to measure intangibles in a poll.

Rizon · 05-24-2004, 02:51 PM

What, this coming from an area whose top two 911 calls are "what time is it?" and "whats the weather going to be like today?"?

BleedingCubbyBlue · 05-24-2004, 03:10 PM

Why is anything about "Friends" in that poll at all? Dumb.

benchwarmer · 05-24-2004, 03:17 PM

I would agree with this poll. Just because i think it is much more difficult to pitch as flawless as Eric did then it is to go 1-4 for 56 straight games.

Long_Long_Name · 05-24-2004, 03:20 PM

59 scoreless innings by Hershiser? I think that's my favorite.

By the way, Éric Gagné hasn't been flawless, he's given up hits and runs... he just hasn't blown a save.

congobeast · 05-24-2004, 03:23 PM

I'd be hard-pressed to choose between Ripken, Dimaggio & Hershiser. All of those feats are truly spectacular.

As impressive as Gagne's streak is, I don't think it yet approaches the near Herculean efforts of those three. Not yet, anyway. If "Game Over" is still perfect this time next year, give me a ping:.

KurtBevacqua · 05-24-2004, 04:11 PM

Considering this unbiased poll came from Dodgers.com, I am somewhat amazed there was no consideration given to the Dodgers record of consecutive years wearing the color blue.

matskralc · 05-24-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by KurtBevacqua
Considering this unbiased poll came from Dodgers.com, I am somewhat amazed there was no consideration given to the Dodgers record of consecutive years wearing the color blue.

Or "consecutive times beating the traffic home".

IatricSB · 05-24-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Why isn't there an option for Ross Gload's streak? Is it because they know Gload would make Gagne look like a putz?

Is that the conscutive game streak for getting a splinter in your butt?

Boozie1580 · 05-24-2004, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Akrobat
Ignoring the unbiased part, why is Cal Ripken ahead of Joe DiMaggio?

Because he should be. Look at the top streak besides Cal's. Gehrig's is pretty much the only one thats even close. But there have been plenty of 30-50 game hitting streaks.

EDIT: Wrong yankee

twins15 · 05-24-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Boozie1580
Because he should be. Look at the top streak besides Cal's. Gehrig's is pretty much the only one thats even close. But there have been plenty of 30-50 game hitting streaks.

EDIT: Wrong yankee

Actually there have been no other 50 game streaks. Or 45 game streaks, for that matter.

Long_Long_Name · 05-24-2004, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Boozie1580
Because he should be. Look at the top streak besides Cal's. Gehrig's is pretty much the only one thats even close. But there have been plenty of 30-50 game hitting streaks.

The distance between streak lengths does not necessarily mean that a streak is significative. For example, if a team has the most consecutive games with a player whose name starts with the letter "C" at first base, say 2451 games, and the second closest team only has 291, I don't think it makes the record significative.

Basically, what Akrobat is probably saying is that consecutive games played are less significative than a hitting streak.

Boozie1580 · 05-24-2004, 05:45 PM

True, but I think in this case playing 2,632 straight games through all kinds of injuries is tougher than getting hits in 56 straight games. Maybe that's just me.

Akrobat · 05-24-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Boozie1580
True, but I think in this case playing 2,632 straight games through all kinds of injuries is tougher than getting hits in 56 straight games. Maybe that's just me.

I understand Cal's dedication to the game, but personally I don't think the streak means that much about productivity. Yes, he played in games while being injured, showing how tough he is. I'm sure there were many games where Cal's inability to be 100% actually hurt the team more than it helped though.

How many of those 2,632 games did Ripken go 0-4 with runners LOB? He was a career .276 hitter, and at one point he hit under .265 for four seasons straight. Granted DiMaggio could have gone 1 for 4 with runners LOB and no RBI, but at least he put his team in a better position by getting on base 56 straight games with a hit.

I think it'd be fair to say that if someone plays 1,000 games straight, sits out 1-5 games where they know they can't play efficiently, and then play another 1,000 games, they could actually be on the same level as Cal. Just my side of it.

EDIT: Not saying .276 is bad for a career, of course it's good. Just showing that there were obviously numerous times where he didn't get a hit.

Akrobat · 05-24-2004, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by Long_Long_Name

Basically, what Akrobat is probably saying is that consecutive games played are less significative than a hitting streak.

Yeah, that's what I was going for

AnotherAlias · 05-24-2004, 08:29 PM

I think Joe Borowski's 21 game save streak is wayyyyyy more significant than Gagne's.

I'd like to see Gagne save 21 games in a row with an 81 MPH heater, like Smokin' Joe's.

1942 - Under Executive Order 9066, more than 120,000 Japanese and persons of Japanese ancestry living in western U.S. were moved to "relocation centers," (some for the duration of the war). After voluntary evacuation was prohibited, the Army forcibly moved approximately 110,000 evacuees, most of whom were American citizens, to ten relocation centers in the Western states. Smaller numbers of Germans, Italians, and other nationalities were also forcibly relocated. Although food and shelter was provided and wages were paid to those who wished to work, living conditions were poor and induced several uprisings.

On March 18th, two black players Jackie Robinson and Nate Moreland requested a walk-on tryout with the Chicago White Sox during a spring training session in Pasadena. Manager Jimmie Dykes reluctantly allowed them to work out with the ball club, but dismissed both without an offer.

Boston Red Sox slugger and American patriot Ted Williams enlisted in the military as a Naval aviator on June 2nd. He was able to finish the season, as did many other players who enlisted or were awaiting the draft, which moved at a very slow pace despite the early discouragements of the war. American League regulars who were also enlisted at the time included Johnny Rigney, Joe Grace, Johnny Berardino, Cecil Travis, Bob Feller, Pat Mullin, Buddy Lewis, Sam Chapman and Johnny Sturm.

On June 6th, Gene Stack of the Chicago White Sox became the first Major League draftee to die on active duty after suffering a heart attack following an Army ball game.

Boston Braves ace Jim Tobin became the only Major League pitcher ever to hit three successive home runs during a May 13th, 6-5 victory over the Chicago Cubs at Braves Field. His last round tripper (in the eighth) broke a 4-4 tie and set the momentum for a win.

On June 19th, Boston Braves slugger Paul Waner joined Cap Anson and Honus Wagner as the only National League players to tally over three-thousand hits. The deciding mark came courtesy of visiting pitcher Rip Sewell of the Pittsburgh Pirates.

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benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	I would agree with this poll. Just because i think it is much more difficult to pitch as flawless as Eric did then it is to go 1-4 for 56 straight games.

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	59 scoreless innings by Hershiser? I think that's my favorite. By the way, Éric Gagné hasn't been flawless, he's given up hits and runs... he just hasn't blown a save. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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congobeast Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 469	I'd be hard-pressed to choose between Ripken, Dimaggio & Hershiser. All of those feats are truly spectacular. As impressive as Gagne's streak is, I don't think it yet approaches the near Herculean efforts of those three. Not yet, anyway. If "Game Over" is still perfect this time next year, give me a ping:. __________________ (The Boys of Summer) Cleveland Indians 1929-?? (All-Forum Baseball Dynasty) Pittsfield Hillies 2000-?? "I would walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball." Pete Rose

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Boozie1580 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MD Posts: 1,255	True, but I think in this case playing 2,632 straight games through all kinds of injuries is tougher than getting hits in 56 straight games. Maybe that's just me. __________________

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AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	I think Joe Borowski's 21 game save streak is wayyyyyy more significant than Gagne's. I'd like to see Gagne save 21 games in a row with an 81 MPH heater, like Smokin' Joe's. 1942 - Under Executive Order 9066, more than 120,000 Japanese and persons of Japanese ancestry living in western U.S. were moved to "relocation centers," (some for the duration of the war). After voluntary evacuation was prohibited, the Army forcibly moved approximately 110,000 evacuees, most of whom were American citizens, to ten relocation centers in the Western states. Smaller numbers of Germans, Italians, and other nationalities were also forcibly relocated. Although food and shelter was provided and wages were paid to those who wished to work, living conditions were poor and induced several uprisings. On March 18th, two black players Jackie Robinson and Nate Moreland requested a walk-on tryout with the Chicago White Sox during a spring training session in Pasadena. Manager Jimmie Dykes reluctantly allowed them to work out with the ball club, but dismissed both without an offer. Boston Red Sox slugger and American patriot Ted Williams enlisted in the military as a Naval aviator on June 2nd. He was able to finish the season, as did many other players who enlisted or were awaiting the draft, which moved at a very slow pace despite the early discouragements of the war. American League regulars who were also enlisted at the time included Johnny Rigney, Joe Grace, Johnny Berardino, Cecil Travis, Bob Feller, Pat Mullin, Buddy Lewis, Sam Chapman and Johnny Sturm. On June 6th, Gene Stack of the Chicago White Sox became the first Major League draftee to die on active duty after suffering a heart attack following an Army ball game. Boston Braves ace Jim Tobin became the only Major League pitcher ever to hit three successive home runs during a May 13th, 6-5 victory over the Chicago Cubs at Braves Field. His last round tripper (in the eighth) broke a 4-4 tie and set the momentum for a win. On June 19th, Boston Braves slugger Paul Waner joined Cap Anson and Honus Wagner as the only National League players to tally over three-thousand hits. The deciding mark came courtesy of visiting pitcher Rip Sewell of the Pittsburgh Pirates. President Roosevelt granted Major League Baseball the go-ahead to play despite the travel and material restrictions of WW II. In his famous "Green Light" letter FDR stated that he honestly felt that it would be in the best interests of the country to keep baseball going. He also encouraged more night baseball games so that war workers could attend, as a well needed distraction.