Coaches contracts & hiring

scefalu · 03-14-2002, 05:03 AM

Two things I'd like to see with the coaches contracts and hiring system:

1. The option to negotiate contract extentions with existing coaches; and,

2. The ability to negotiate contracts with new coaches (if a better one becomes available) before having to fire the old coach. This would impact the pre-season coach hiring period the most.

Thanks for a great game!

BrewedCrew · 03-14-2002, 04:40 PM

i also think this would be great idea i always end up losing my coach and i cant remember what his name is so i can't resign

[ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: BrewedCrew ]

MamboRat · 03-15-2002, 08:39 AM

[quote]Originally posted by BrewedCrew:
i also think this would be great idea i always end up losing my coach and i cant remember what his name is so i can't resign

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I agree on this. I was looking at the roster of the only human controlled team in my 16-team fictional league with all ratings at zero. That is when I realized my scouting director was gone, and I too didn't remember his name.

IngredientX · 03-15-2002, 10:53 AM

It would be nice for coaches' and scouts' contracts to behave exactly like players' contracts, with extensions, e-mails, and a listing in the "Possible Free Agents" area of the Roster screen.

What would be even better would be for scouts to have a career history, showing what team they worked for in a given year, and appropriate stats (Team AVG/OPS/W-L for hitting coaches, team ERA/W-L for pitching coaches, team W-L for scouting directors, and team W-L at A, AA, and AAA levels for minor league managers).

I thought for a second about suggesting hiding staff ratings, so masochistic players could only gauge a candidate's ability through prior history, but I don't want to blow whatever credibility I have left.

hellfrozeover · 03-15-2002, 01:36 PM

One thing that kind of bothered me was I had a coach for three years, and I figured he was a good coach and I'd try to sign him again, but when I went to give him an offer, he told me "I don't like your organization!". I think that's rather odd, he was paid more than any of my other coaches, and it said he wanted to win, and my Cubs went to the playoffs. So I think he should want to come back.

IngredientX · 03-15-2002, 02:06 PM

I won the World Championship for three straight years, and I still had coaches turning me down, saying, "I want to work for a winning organization!"

Since it made the game a little more interesting, I didn't mind. Besides, it's not unprecedented; it's what Alex Rodriguez and Mike Hampton said last year when they left playoff teams for mega-contracts with last-place teams.

hellfrozeover · 03-15-2002, 02:22 PM

Heh heh. I think A-Rod's finally starting to realize that money just doesn't make up for losing so horribly.

Pretecf · 03-16-2002, 08:43 AM

Maybe he just realized you were with the Cubbies?

hellfrozeover · 03-16-2002, 08:14 PM

Ha ha ha ...... I think that was a joke.....

RedSox1918 · 03-19-2002, 06:42 PM

I agree. I have lost very good coaches and then had to replace them with not so good ones. I've been paying closer attention now, but it would still be a good feature.

RedSox1918 · 03-19-2002, 06:45 PM

I agree. I have lost very good coaches and then had to replace them with not so good ones. I've been paying closer attention now, but it would still be a good feature.

Anonymous Ghost · 03-19-2002, 07:29 PM

You could say that again.

Anyone else ever edit down the ratings of a coach that burned them out of spite?

VEASE · 03-19-2002, 09:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by hellfrozeover:
Heh heh. I think A-Rod's finally starting to realize that money just doesn't make up for losing so horribly.<hr></blockquote>

I bet they told him something like 'You are the final piece in the jigsaw. With your Bat we are ready to make a run at the playoffs.'

Then they hid the Pitching Roster from him

hellfrozeover · 03-20-2002, 05:48 PM

Yeah well, now that the Cubs ex-pitching coach and Cubs ex-MR Todd Van Poppel are with Texas, they still don't have the stuff to make a playoff run. They have all the tools, the bullpen, batting, coaching, but the starting rotation just doesn't have the talent.

03-14-2002, 05:03 AM	#1
scefalu Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 355	Coaches contracts & hiring Two things I'd like to see with the coaches contracts and hiring system: 1. The option to negotiate contract extentions with existing coaches; and, 2. The ability to negotiate contracts with new coaches (if a better one becomes available) before having to fire the old coach. This would impact the pre-season coach hiring period the most. Thanks for a great game! __________________ Shawn

03-14-2002, 04:40 PM	#2
BrewedCrew Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 414	i also think this would be great idea i always end up losing my coach and i cant remember what his name is so i can't resign [ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: BrewedCrew ]</p> __________________

03-15-2002, 08:39 AM	#3
MamboRat Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 218	[quote]Originally posted by BrewedCrew: <strong>i also think this would be great idea i always end up losing my coach and i cant remember what his name is so i can't resign </strong><hr></blockquote> I agree on this. I was looking at the roster of the only human controlled team in my 16-team fictional league with all ratings at zero. That is when I realized my scouting director was gone, and I too didn't remember his name. __________________ Ron Shearer Universal Baseball Association

03-15-2002, 10:53 AM	#4
IngredientX Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 117	It would be nice for coaches' and scouts' contracts to behave exactly like players' contracts, with extensions, e-mails, and a listing in the "Possible Free Agents" area of the Roster screen. What would be even better would be for scouts to have a career history, showing what team they worked for in a given year, and appropriate stats (Team AVG/OPS/W-L for hitting coaches, team ERA/W-L for pitching coaches, team W-L for scouting directors, and team W-L at A, AA, and AAA levels for minor league managers). I thought for a second about suggesting hiding staff ratings, so masochistic players could only gauge a candidate's ability through prior history, but I don't want to blow whatever credibility I have left. __________________ "Schopenhauer was right, wouldn't you say? 'Life without pain has no meaning.' Gentlemen, I wish to give your lives meaning."

03-15-2002, 01:36 PM	#5
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	One thing that kind of bothered me was I had a coach for three years, and I figured he was a good coach and I'd try to sign him again, but when I went to give him an offer, he told me "I don't like your organization!". I think that's rather odd, he was paid more than any of my other coaches, and it said he wanted to win, and my Cubs went to the playoffs. So I think he should want to come back. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-15-2002, 02:06 PM	#6
IngredientX Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 117	I won the World Championship for three straight years, and I still had coaches turning me down, saying, "I want to work for a winning organization!" Since it made the game a little more interesting, I didn't mind. Besides, it's not unprecedented; it's what Alex Rodriguez and Mike Hampton said last year when they left playoff teams for mega-contracts with last-place teams. __________________ "Schopenhauer was right, wouldn't you say? 'Life without pain has no meaning.' Gentlemen, I wish to give your lives meaning."

03-15-2002, 02:22 PM	#7
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Heh heh. I think A-Rod's finally starting to realize that money just doesn't make up for losing so horribly. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-16-2002, 08:43 AM	#8
Pretecf Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 62	Maybe he just realized you were with the Cubbies? __________________ ENJOY THE CARNAGE

03-16-2002, 08:14 PM	#9
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Ha ha ha ...... I think that was a joke..... __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-19-2002, 06:42 PM	#10
RedSox1918 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 14	I agree. I have lost very good coaches and then had to replace them with not so good ones. I've been paying closer attention now, but it would still be a good feature. __________________ #9 Ted Williams "He was the greatest hitter I ever saw - Joe DiMaggio"

03-19-2002, 06:45 PM	#11
RedSox1918 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 14	I agree. I have lost very good coaches and then had to replace them with not so good ones. I've been paying closer attention now, but it would still be a good feature. __________________ #9 Ted Williams "He was the greatest hitter I ever saw - Joe DiMaggio"

03-19-2002, 07:29 PM	#12
Anonymous Ghost All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 751	You could say that again. Anyone else ever edit down the ratings of a coach that burned them out of spite?

03-19-2002, 09:58 PM	#13
VEASE Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Stocksfield, UK Posts: 55	[quote]Originally posted by hellfrozeover: <strong>Heh heh. I think A-Rod's finally starting to realize that money just doesn't make up for losing so horribly.</strong><hr></blockquote> I bet they told him something like 'You are the final piece in the jigsaw. With your Bat we are ready to make a run at the playoffs.' Then they hid the Pitching Roster from him

03-20-2002, 05:48 PM	#14
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Yeah well, now that the Cubs ex-pitching coach and Cubs ex-MR Todd Van Poppel are with Texas, they still don't have the stuff to make a playoff run. They have all the tools, the bullpen, batting, coaching, but the starting rotation just doesn't have the talent. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs