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fluharty · 04-17-2002, 04:49 AM

I would advocate hiding more information from the game player (maybe as an option), including:

a) whether a guy is prone, average, or druable
b) pitching durability
c) clutch and consistancy ratings

I would rather learn this type of stuff from watching the guy play, like you have to do in the real world. This would add some challenge to the game. Maybe tie this in to a difficulty setting? Would anyone else like to see something like this?

VT Os fan · 04-17-2002, 05:11 AM

It might be appropriate to hide some or all of that when playing in the stat-only mode or whatever it's called (where you don't see any of the ratings).

However, players do come out of high school and college with a reputation so the scout would still have some idea of a player's consistancy, durability, pitcher durability, etc. It doesn't seem unreasonble to have the scout share that information with the GM.

What I would prefer is to have some of these intangibles drift and develop over time. Perhaps they already do?

fluharty · 04-17-2002, 05:41 AM

hmm... you may be right, in which case I would advocate having a true rating and a scout's interpretation, similar to the way the ratings & potentials are done now. I wonder if this is already the case? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

As far as developing over time, I would definately like to see this with the leadership rating- 23 year old rookies are not generally leaders...

[ 04-17-2002, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: fluharty ]

Jason Moyer · 04-17-2002, 06:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by VT Os fan:
What I would prefer is to have some of these intangibles drift and develop over time. Perhaps they already do?<hr /></blockquote>Dunno about leadership/clutch/consistency, but I've had lots of players go from normal to prone for their injury rating. Often it happens in their late 30's but I've seen it happen much earlier.

Jason

Erich Ingram · 04-17-2002, 06:29 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by fluharty:
hmm... you may be right, in which case I would advocate having a true rating and a scout's interpretation, similar to the way the ratings & potentials are done now. I wonder if this is already the case? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

As far as developing over time, I would definately like to see this with the leadership rating- 23 year old rookies are not generally leaders...<hr /></blockquote>There is a true rating and the interpretation already. The actual ratings are never shown, just what the scout thinks and even then it is not exactly right.

That is true they are generally not leaders at 23 but occasionally it happens

fluharty · 04-17-2002, 12:22 PM

Rolen,
I just want to clarify. We were talking about consistancy, pitcher durability, and player injury ratings. Are you certain there is a difference between the real rating and the scout's interpretation for these?

Killebrew · 04-17-2002, 01:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by fluharty:
 We were talking about consistancy, pitcher durability, and player injury ratings. Are you certain there is a difference between the real rating and the scout's interpretation for these?<hr /></blockquote>Just FYI - these new player attributes stay the same whether you have scouts on or off.

hellfrozeover · 04-17-2002, 07:17 PM

I think that the leadership ratings should vary as well as consistency and all the other ratings. Look at Sosa before 1998, he was one of the most inconsistent players around, and overall was not a very good player. But, he was able to work through it and is now a very consistent excellent player. So, I think consistency ratings should change over time, and also all the other 'intangible' ratings.

04-17-2002, 04:49 AM	#1
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	hide more from me I would advocate hiding more information from the game player (maybe as an option), including: a) whether a guy is prone, average, or druable b) pitching durability c) clutch and consistancy ratings I would rather learn this type of stuff from watching the guy play, like you have to do in the real world. This would add some challenge to the game. Maybe tie this in to a difficulty setting? Would anyone else like to see something like this?

04-17-2002, 05:11 AM	#2
VT Os fan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia Tech (Blacksburg, Virginia) Posts: 226	It might be appropriate to hide some or all of that when playing in the stat-only mode or whatever it's called (where you don't see any of the ratings). However, players do come out of high school and college with a reputation so the scout would still have some idea of a player's consistancy, durability, pitcher durability, etc. It doesn't seem unreasonble to have the scout share that information with the GM. What I would prefer is to have some of these intangibles drift and develop over time. Perhaps they already do? __________________ "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." -- Ayn Rand

04-17-2002, 05:41 AM	#3
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	hmm... you may be right, in which case I would advocate having a true rating and a scout's interpretation, similar to the way the ratings & potentials are done now. I wonder if this is already the case? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. As far as developing over time, I would definately like to see this with the leadership rating- 23 year old rookies are not generally leaders... <small>[ 04-17-2002, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: fluharty ]</small>

04-17-2002, 06:22 AM	#4
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by VT Os fan: <strong>What I would prefer is to have some of these intangibles drift and develop over time. Perhaps they already do?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Dunno about leadership/clutch/consistency, but I've had lots of players go from normal to prone for their injury rating. Often it happens in their late 30's but I've seen it happen much earlier. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

04-17-2002, 06:29 AM	#5
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,214	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fluharty: <strong>hmm... you may be right, in which case I would advocate having a true rating and a scout's interpretation, similar to the way the ratings & potentials are done now. I wonder if this is already the case? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. As far as developing over time, I would definately like to see this with the leadership rating- 23 year old rookies are not generally leaders...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There is a true rating and the interpretation already. The actual ratings are never shown, just what the scout thinks and even then it is not exactly right. That is true they are generally not leaders at 23 but occasionally it happens __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

04-17-2002, 12:22 PM	#6
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	Rolen, I just want to clarify. We were talking about consistancy, pitcher durability, and player injury ratings. Are you certain there is a difference between the real rating and the scout's interpretation for these?

04-17-2002, 01:09 PM	#7
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fluharty: <strong> We were talking about consistancy, pitcher durability, and player injury ratings. Are you certain there is a difference between the real rating and the scout's interpretation for these?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just FYI - these new player attributes stay the same whether you have scouts on or off. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

04-17-2002, 07:17 PM	#8
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	I think that the leadership ratings should vary as well as consistency and all the other ratings. Look at Sosa before 1998, he was one of the most inconsistent players around, and overall was not a very good player. But, he was able to work through it and is now a very consistent excellent player. So, I think consistency ratings should change over time, and also all the other 'intangible' ratings. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs