Anybody watching the UNC/Duke game??

marc · 03-06-2004, 11:05 PM

33-30 UNC at halftime. What a great half of basketball! Well played on both ends, not too sloppy. McCants and Deng are outstanding, so much young talent on the court.

Big Willis 16 · 03-06-2004, 11:07 PM

Thanks for reminding me

PrestonKaye · 03-06-2004, 11:31 PM

Duke lost to Georga Tech. thats good enough for me

drprestwood · 03-07-2004, 01:33 AM

Wow, great game.

Just got back from the bonfire. Watch for me on replays of Sportscenter. I'll be the one wearing the "Go To Hell Carolina" shirt and a Duke hat.

03-07-2004, 02:02 AM

Yes, it was a fantastic game that went right down to the final minute. Deng really put on a show. The one cross over, the alley oop dunk, and the various reverse layups he had were spectacular. He's going to be one special player in college if he doesn't declare.

OmahaBaseball · 03-07-2004, 02:16 AM

What a great game - I am very impressed by both teams - Duke is going to be so solid in the Tourney - With Stanford losing today, how does this effect the rankings and seedings for Duke and St. Joe's?

03-07-2004, 02:29 AM

St. Joe's will be the definate #1 in the AP Polls next week.

Boozie1580 · 03-07-2004, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Yyzlin
St. Joe's will be the definate #1 in the AP Polls next week.

I don't know about that, their schedule was so weak that the voters might be reluctant to put them at #1.

Ervinmagicsmall · 03-07-2004, 09:09 AM

St Joes strength of schedule rating is like somewhere in the 40's the last time I looked..Stanford's was in the 80's or 90's-- plus Duke lost earlier in the week, so I'm pretty sure St joe's will be #1.
But I think St Joes is definitely overrated--they may get to the Sweet 16 due to getting favorable matchups from being a #1 seed, but they'll get bounced as soon as they face a legit top 15 team.

drprestwood · 03-07-2004, 02:22 PM

St. Joe's will be #1.

Duke could be #2, but will likely be #3, 4 or 5.
Stanford could be #2, but will likely be #3, 4 or 5.

I see St. Joe's at #1, Gonzaga at #2, Duke at #3, Stanford at #4, Mississippi State at #5.

I don't know if Stanford should fall that far, but late losses to unranked teams hurt a lot in the eyes of the voters.

Boozie1580 · 03-07-2004, 02:43 PM

How many losses does Gonzaga have? 2? I doubt they would be higher than Stanford, since they have more losses and their conference is weak.

marc · 03-07-2004, 05:54 PM

Don't count out St. Joe's guys, they have the best backcourt in the nation, period. It's all about matchups in the NCAA tourney and there are very few dominant big men in College Basketball this year (not like there have been a lot in the last 10 years anyways) so as long as St. Joe's doesn't run into Okafor I see no reason why they couldn't get to the final 4.

My Final 4 predictions:
St. Joe's
Duke
UCONN
Mississippi State

That of course will most surely change as 2 of those teams will most likely be in the same region.

KurtBevacqua · 03-08-2004, 04:01 PM

My sleeper pick, Syracuse. They have won 5 in a row, including a win at Pitt and a win over UConn. I think the defending champs have enough horses back, even without Anthony, to make a run. Warrick is awesome. I thought he was every bit as important last year as Anthony.

UNC is another team nobody wants to see in their bracket. They have 3-4 solid NBA prospects on the floor at any time. I look for both UNC and the Cuse to be 4 seeds, very dangerous 4 seeds. I'd take either one over St Joes or Gonzaga in a heartbeat.

I give credit to St Joes with that great backcourt, but come tourney time they are going to have a really hard time adjusting to the competition once they get into the Sweet 16. Teams like Duke, UNC, UConn, and Kentucky are used to playing top 20 teams damn near every game. It won't phase them in the least to play other tourney teams while St Joe's and Gonzaga will be sucking wind trying to keep up with the heightened tempo. I'm not saying they don't match up well with tourney teams, but they will not be used to the grind of tourney level competition.

marc · 03-09-2004, 03:40 PM

Sure it won't be as easy, but I see only about 5 or 6 teams that pose as true matchup problems for them in the tourney. Jameer Nelson is the best guard in America and is a tough matchup for the opponents even if that opponent is UNC or Duke, he is a winner. We will have to wait and see what the bracket looks like when it comes out but I'd be shocked if they didn't make it to the elite 8. Most of the teams that you just mentioned will be top 3 seeds which they wouldn't have to play until that round.

03-07-2004, 02:16 AM	#6
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,808	What a great game - I am very impressed by both teams - Duke is going to be so solid in the Tourney - With Stanford losing today, how does this effect the rankings and seedings for Duke and St. Joe's? __________________ Life is Good!

03-07-2004, 02:43 PM	#11
Boozie1580 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MD Posts: 1,255	How many losses does Gonzaga have? 2? I doubt they would be higher than Stanford, since they have more losses and their conference is weak. __________________

03-07-2004, 05:54 PM	#12
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Don't count out St. Joe's guys, they have the best backcourt in the nation, period. It's all about matchups in the NCAA tourney and there are very few dominant big men in College Basketball this year (not like there have been a lot in the last 10 years anyways) so as long as St. Joe's doesn't run into Okafor I see no reason why they couldn't get to the final 4. My Final 4 predictions: St. Joe's Duke UCONN Mississippi State That of course will most surely change as 2 of those teams will most likely be in the same region. __________________

03-08-2004, 04:01 PM	#13
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	My sleeper pick, Syracuse. They have won 5 in a row, including a win at Pitt and a win over UConn. I think the defending champs have enough horses back, even without Anthony, to make a run. Warrick is awesome. I thought he was every bit as important last year as Anthony. UNC is another team nobody wants to see in their bracket. They have 3-4 solid NBA prospects on the floor at any time. I look for both UNC and the Cuse to be 4 seeds, very dangerous 4 seeds. I'd take either one over St Joes or Gonzaga in a heartbeat. I give credit to St Joes with that great backcourt, but come tourney time they are going to have a really hard time adjusting to the competition once they get into the Sweet 16. Teams like Duke, UNC, UConn, and Kentucky are used to playing top 20 teams damn near every game. It won't phase them in the least to play other tourney teams while St Joe's and Gonzaga will be sucking wind trying to keep up with the heightened tempo. I'm not saying they don't match up well with tourney teams, but they will not be used to the grind of tourney level competition. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

03-09-2004, 03:40 PM	#14
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Sure it won't be as easy, but I see only about 5 or 6 teams that pose as true matchup problems for them in the tourney. Jameer Nelson is the best guard in America and is a tough matchup for the opponents even if that opponent is UNC or Duke, he is a winner. We will have to wait and see what the bracket looks like when it comes out but I'd be shocked if they didn't make it to the elite 8. Most of the teams that you just mentioned will be top 3 seeds which they wouldn't have to play until that round. __________________

03-06-2004, 11:05 PM	#1
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Anybody watching the UNC/Duke game?? 33-30 UNC at halftime. What a great half of basketball! Well played on both ends, not too sloppy. McCants and Deng are outstanding, so much young talent on the court. __________________

03-06-2004, 11:07 PM	#2
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03-06-2004, 11:31 PM	#3
PrestonKaye All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cape Cod, Mass Posts: 849	Duke lost to Georga Tech. thats good enough for me __________________ --Championships aren't won on paper, they are won in a computer simulation!-- Vipors Baseball.... BITCHES Xenoz http://img184.exs.cx/img184/219/keblarsig2xy.jpg Flow Storm http://img47.exs.cx/img47/328/ab1copy8hs.jpg

03-07-2004, 01:33 AM	#4
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	Wow, great game. Just got back from the bonfire. Watch for me on replays of Sportscenter. I'll be the one wearing the "Go To Hell Carolina" shirt and a Duke hat.

03-07-2004, 02:02 AM	#5
Yyzlin Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, it was a fantastic game that went right down to the final minute. Deng really put on a show. The one cross over, the alley oop dunk, and the various reverse layups he had were spectacular. He's going to be one special player in college if he doesn't declare.

03-07-2004, 02:29 AM	#7
Yyzlin Guest Posts: n/a	St. Joe's will be the definate #1 in the AP Polls next week.

03-07-2004, 09:09 AM	#9
Ervinmagicsmall Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinoiz Posts: 67	St Joes strength of schedule rating is like somewhere in the 40's the last time I looked..Stanford's was in the 80's or 90's-- plus Duke lost earlier in the week, so I'm pretty sure St joe's will be #1. But I think St Joes is definitely overrated--they may get to the Sweet 16 due to getting favorable matchups from being a #1 seed, but they'll get bounced as soon as they face a legit top 15 team.

03-07-2004, 02:22 PM	#10
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	St. Joe's will be #1. Duke could be #2, but will likely be #3, 4 or 5. Stanford could be #2, but will likely be #3, 4 or 5. I see St. Joe's at #1, Gonzaga at #2, Duke at #3, Stanford at #4, Mississippi State at #5. I don't know if Stanford should fall that far, but late losses to unranked teams hurt a lot in the eyes of the voters.