Building Up Fighter Records

[BrocktonBlockBuster]

I'm trying a new method and so far I like it. Using auto-schedule,I make fighter A use ratings between 1-3[I consider these guys my club fighters]. Figher B, I use ratings between 4-15. This way I can get guys like Gerry Cooney at 24-0 {24]. Having too many good fighters face each other coming up takes away something IMOP. Later on I'll have my club fighters[rated 1-3] fight amongest each other and give them each a chance too win some fights.

[wildhawke11]

Fighters should only be matched within 3 or 4 places of there own ratings in the game, for realism i feel if your using peak of course.

Meaning a fighter who like say Ezzard Charles who is a 10 in the game would could only fight a 7 8 9 or 11 12 13 then if he beat a 12 rated fighter he could then fight say Ali who is a 15.

Unless your starting out at beginning stage of a fighters career when you think about it makes sense, because in real life a number 4 rated fighter would never, at least in my time would never get a bout sanctioned to go in with a 11 rated fighter.
Thats of course if the Boxing Board of Control did there job correct

Hard in messages to get across sometimes what you mean. So forgive me if i have confused you.

By the way Ezzard Charles was one hell of a boxer great great Lightheavy but i am sure you know that :-). A far better boxer skill wise then Joe Louis, and in fact more accurate in his punching. But of course the public never forgave him for beating there idol The Brown Bomber when Joe sadly had to make a comeback.

I know he fought Moore 3 times, won em all and if my memory serves me correct, beat Joe Maxim in all there 5 fights.
He is my pick for All Time best Light Heavy.
Bring on Roy Jr Jones this guy would have taken you to school LOL

Did you know Charles killed a guy in the ring, after that he was still a great boxer but the killer instinct which all great fighters need was understandably a little lacking after that. He had it all but is never given the credit he fully deserves in my opinion Brockton.

Great to see you back on the Board Rocky.

Forgive the ramblings of this old timer

[hamed]

I agree Brockton, I like to build up my guys & only have them usually fight their first really tough fight when fighting for a title. Then, depending how they do in their title shot, they have to take tougher fights to get back in the title picture. For instance, Terry Norris was my WBC Super Welterweight champ until Oscar beat him by decision. Terry won the title back when Oscar gave it up. Terry then lost a decision to Davey Moore. He then fought Vargas for the WBA belt but was knocked out with a rib shot in the 5th. In his last title shot, (in a give & take affair) he was knocked out in the 6th by Ayala for the IBF belt. He might fight Tito next (as Tito returns) with the hope of getting back in the title picture.

[rastak]

I think there are many examples of fighters fighting lousy opposition. Did you see Holmes-Cooney Holmes-Cobb?
The Joe Louis Bum of the month club?

Originally posted by wildhawke11
Fighters should only be matched within 3 or 4 places of there own ratings in the game, for realism i feel if your using peak of course.

Meaning a fighter who like say Ezzard Charles who is a 10 in the game would could only fight a 7 8 9 or 11 12 13 then if he beat a 12 rated fighter he could then fight say Ali who is a 15.

Unless your starting out at beginning stage of a fighters career when you think about it makes sense, because in real life a number 4 rated fighter would never, at least in my time would never get a bout sanctioned to go in with a 11 rated fighter.
Thats of course if the Boxing Board of Control did there job correct

Hard in messages to get across sometimes what you mean. So forgive me if i have confused you.

By the way Ezzard Charles was one hell of a boxer great great Lightheavy but i am sure you know that :-). A far better boxer skill wise then Joe Louis, and in fact more accurate in his punching. But of course the public never forgave him for beating there idol The Brown Bomber when Joe sadly had to make a comeback.

I know he fought Moore 3 times, won em all and if my memory serves me correct, beat Joe Maxim in all there 5 fights.
He is my pick for All Time best Light Heavy.
Bring on Roy Jr Jones this guy would have taken you to school LOL

Did you know Charles killed a guy in the ring, after that he was still a great boxer but the killer instinct which all great fighters need was understandably a little lacking after that. He had it all but is never given the credit he fully deserves in my opinion Brockton.

Great to see you back on the Board Rocky.

Forgive the ramblings of this old timer

[Cap]

Hey, let's face it, in the pink, Joe Louis was like Superman compared to just about anybody. In spite of that, Tommy Farr gave him a great battle when Louis was on top of the world. Then there was the cagey veteran Schmeling who saw something in the rising young Brown Bomber and dismantled him. A lot of those so-called Bums-of-the-month were better than decent fighters. Study their records carefully or ask Joe Kowalski:

"Fer instink, dat guy Tami Mauriello. Dere was a very dangrous poison. He annihilated a bunch o' good mokes back dere in 1942 to '45. Sure he lost a few, but in does days a pug wasn't afraid ta lose a couple along da way. Dat's how he loined sumthin! Tami threw dat all away in da foist round when he nailed Louis an nearly had 'im on Queer Street. Tami lost his head an' went at da Bomber wide open.

"Just about every one of those gents that climbed in with Louis was a battle-tested ring warrior. If Louis had made a mistake, it might have been his last. Look at Galento. They didn't call him da "Joisey Night Stick" for nuthin. He was probably the meanest, dirtiest fighter since Ad Wolgast."

You want Bum-of-the-month, look closely at the string of victims on ....nah! We won't get into that again.

Cap

By the way, I generally use the lower rated fighters in TBCB to fatten the records of the 7 and ups. Just like a manager would do in real life.

[wildhawke11]

Cap,
Makes you think that if Farr, Schmeling and Conn could hold there own with Louis, that Gene Tunney a master at studying the opposition could have stole a few fights from Louis.

As you said Cap no worse then some of the fodder that today's so called great fighters have made there name on.

There probably are some good young guys today who could be great fighters, but them type of guys are in other sports, to wise to get there heads kicked in a bloody boxing ring. So in most case in the HWs at least we get the rejects from these sports or those who are not athletic enough to do well in other sports completing in the fight game.

[vistaman44]

Originally posted by Cap
Hey, let's face it, in the pink, Joe Louis was like Superman compared to just about anybody. In spite of that, Tommy Farr gave him a great battle when Louis was on top of the world. Then there was the cagey veteran Schmeling who saw something in the rising young Brown Bomber and dismantled him. A lot of those so-called Bums-of-the-month were better than decent fighters. Study their records carefully or ask Joe Kowalski:

"Fer instink, dat guy Tami Mauriello. Dere was a very dangrous poison. He annihilated a bunch o' good mokes back dere in 1942 to '45. Sure he lost a few, but in does days a pug wasn't afraid ta lose a couple along da way. Dat's how he loined sumthin! Tami threw dat all away in da foist round when he nailed Louis an nearly had 'im on Queer Street. Tami lost his head an' went at da Bomber wide open.

"Just about every one of those gents that climbed in with Louis was a battle-tested ring warrior. If Louis had made a mistake, it might have been his last. Look at Galento. They didn't call him da "Joisey Night Stick" for nuthin. He was probably the meanest, dirtiest fighter since Ad Wolgast."

Dead on evaluation. That's why my universe is there, in the 1940s. Everyone fought everyone else, regardless of if it meant a weight class or two difference. No unbeatens because they fought more often against virtually all comers.

[wildhawke11]

Vistaman
Right on the button buddy

[vistaman44]

Thanks, Danny. I have to agree, too, with your comment regarding so many of today's top athletes going to the so-called "major sports" in the US -- baseball, football, basketball and hockey -- and to soccer in Europe and elsewhere. All sports have the element of physical injury possible, but the risk is so much more grave with boxing that most athletes just don't want to or need to take it anymore. While there are still some very good fighters, those factors have put a significant crimp in the pipeline.

[Antonin]

Originally posted by BrocktonBlockBuster
I'm trying a new method and so far I like it. Using auto-schedule,I make fighter A use ratings between 1-3[I consider these guys my club fighters]. Figher B, I use ratings between 4-15. This way I can get guys like Gerry Cooney at 24-0 {24]. Having too many good fighters face each other coming up takes away something IMOP. Later on I'll have my club fighters[rated 1-3] fight amongest each other and give them each a chance too win some fights.

This makes a lot of sense, and I think I will start using this method in my own "universe."

BBB's comment here, and all of the replies that followed, really help less-than-expert guys like me get more enjoyment out of TBCB. Thanks fellas!