Faceless Players

D Love · 06-01-2002, 08:19 AM

OOTP froze up while I was waiting for the ammy draft to finish. The screen woudln't appear so I alt-ctrl-del'd in order to close it and then reopen. However, when I reopened, my team has several players without any data. Is there a way to get back to the way it was before?

Steve Kuffrey · 06-01-2002, 11:23 AM

Not sure if this would help, but go into league setup and click "reset season" button, it may do nothing to help however.

D Love · 06-01-2002, 02:40 PM

That didn't help. Well, at least it was only a test league and didn't matter...

However, this brings up a good question: what's the best way to backup a league? Copying the entire league folder? Is there another way?

Killebrew · 06-01-2002, 02:54 PM

D Love - good it is just a test league. In the future always try to avoid hard closing the app with CNT+ALT+DEL as it is most likely still running. The league is almost guaranteed to be corrupt if you do that. The program will require a few more minutes to repaint the screen and it the meant time windows may think the app is not responding when it still is calculating. Grab a coffee or a coke and let the program run it's course. It might take several more minutes depending on your system specs, configuration and efficiency. If you have a low end machine (128 MB RAM or less) it would be wise (and faster) to turn background apps off and refrain from giving the PC too many other non game commands like surfing in via 10 browser windows etc..

I is still always wise to back up a league: I'd suggest using winzip and zip up the entire folder. Give it a name related to the league and the league date and it should only take up 1-3 MB of space (you can skp the BMP image files within the league folder). Make sure that winzip is also archiving the folders within your main league folder. I think the most recent version (from 2002) of Winzip have this as the default setting.

Note that if you want to archive a career league the best time to backup/archive the league is right before you push the Proceed To Next Year button. That way you can use the various baseballrefernce style utilities out there like the ones from Jeff Cato, IatricSB, and Wallman.

D Love · 06-01-2002, 03:39 PM

Thanks for the info.

I noticed under FILE there is a BACKUP LEAGUE option. How does that differ from manually zipping the league folder?

Killebrew · 06-01-2002, 03:51 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by D Love:
Thanks for the info.

I noticed under FILE there is a BACKUP LEAGUE option. How does that differ from manually zipping the league folder?<hr /></blockquote>This used to not save all the league data - not sure if that has changed or not. To be safe I always just zip the league up

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mrusignola · 06-04-2002, 07:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Killebrew:
D Love - good it is just a test league. In the future always try to avoid hard closing the app with CNT+ALT+DEL as it is most likely still running. The league is almost guaranteed to be corrupt if you do that. The program will require a few more minutes to repaint the screen and it the meant time windows may think the app is not responding when it still is calculating. Grab a coffee or a coke and let the program run it's course. It might take several more minutes depending on your system specs, configuration and efficiency. If you have a low end machine (128 MB RAM or less) it would be wise (and faster) to turn background apps off and refrain from giving the PC too many other non game commands like surfing in via 10 browser windows etc..

I is still always wise to back up a league: I'd suggest using winzip and zip up the entire folder. Give it a name related to the league and the league date and it should only take up 1-3 MB of space (you can skp the BMP image files within the league folder). Make sure that winzip is also archiving the folders within your main league folder. I think the most recent version (from 2002) of Winzip have this as the default setting.

Note that if you want to archive a career league the best time to backup/archive the league is right before you push the Proceed To Next Year button. That way you can use the various baseballrefernce style utilities out there like the ones from Jeff Cato, IatricSB, and Wallman.<hr /></blockquote>This is kind of a bad design. They should use threading a little more effectively in their coding of features. The app should never lose contact with the user .. and repaint should never fail.

I've experienced this kind of lag time before. Do you know what plans they have to support multi-threading?

06-01-2002, 08:19 AM	#1
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	Faceless Players OOTP froze up while I was waiting for the ammy draft to finish. The screen woudln't appear so I alt-ctrl-del'd in order to close it and then reopen. However, when I reopened, my team has several players without any data. Is there a way to get back to the way it was before?

06-01-2002, 11:23 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Not sure if this would help, but go into league setup and click "reset season" button, it may do nothing to help however. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

06-01-2002, 02:54 PM	#4
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	D Love - good it is just a test league. In the future always try to avoid hard closing the app with CNT+ALT+DEL as it is most likely still running. The league is almost guaranteed to be corrupt if you do that. The program will require a few more minutes to repaint the screen and it the meant time windows may think the app is not responding when it still is calculating. Grab a coffee or a coke and let the program run it's course. It might take several more minutes depending on your system specs, configuration and efficiency. If you have a low end machine (128 MB RAM or less) it would be wise (and faster) to turn background apps off and refrain from giving the PC too many other non game commands like surfing in via 10 browser windows etc.. I is still always wise to back up a league: I'd suggest using winzip and zip up the entire folder. Give it a name related to the league and the league date and it should only take up 1-3 MB of space (you can skp the BMP image files within the league folder). Make sure that winzip is also archiving the folders within your main league folder. I think the most recent version (from 2002) of Winzip have this as the default setting. Note that if you want to archive a career league the best time to backup/archive the league is right before you push the Proceed To Next Year button. That way you can use the various baseballrefernce style utilities out there like the ones from Jeff Cato, IatricSB, and Wallman. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

06-01-2002, 03:51 PM	#6
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by D Love: <strong>Thanks for the info. I noticed under FILE there is a BACKUP LEAGUE option. How does that differ from manually zipping the league folder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This used to not save all the league data - not sure if that has changed or not. To be safe I always just zip the league up . __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

06-04-2002, 07:31 AM	#7
mrusignola Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 103	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Killebrew: <strong>D Love - good it is just a test league. In the future always try to avoid hard closing the app with CNT+ALT+DEL as it is most likely still running. The league is almost guaranteed to be corrupt if you do that. The program will require a few more minutes to repaint the screen and it the meant time windows may think the app is not responding when it still is calculating. Grab a coffee or a coke and let the program run it's course. It might take several more minutes depending on your system specs, configuration and efficiency. If you have a low end machine (128 MB RAM or less) it would be wise (and faster) to turn background apps off and refrain from giving the PC too many other non game commands like surfing in via 10 browser windows etc.. I is still always wise to back up a league: I'd suggest using winzip and zip up the entire folder. Give it a name related to the league and the league date and it should only take up 1-3 MB of space (you can skp the BMP image files within the league folder). Make sure that winzip is also archiving the folders within your main league folder. I think the most recent version (from 2002) of Winzip have this as the default setting. Note that if you want to archive a career league the best time to backup/archive the league is right before you push the Proceed To Next Year button. That way you can use the various baseballrefernce style utilities out there like the ones from Jeff Cato, IatricSB, and Wallman.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This is kind of a bad design. They should use threading a little more effectively in their coding of features. The app should never lose contact with the user .. and repaint should never fail. I've experienced this kind of lag time before. Do you know what plans they have to support multi-threading?

06-01-2002, 02:40 PM	#3
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	That didn't help. Well, at least it was only a test league and didn't matter... However, this brings up a good question: what's the best way to backup a league? Copying the entire league folder? Is there another way?

06-01-2002, 03:39 PM	#5
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	Thanks for the info. I noticed under FILE there is a BACKUP LEAGUE option. How does that differ from manually zipping the league folder?