A-Rod Mvp

miami_fan · 11-17-2003, 03:11 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1663732

Plus he gets a $500,000 tip!

CMH · 11-17-2003, 03:15 PM

Finally.

Jason Moyer · 11-17-2003, 03:16 PM

It's about time. Weird that it happened in a year when someone else had a legitimate claim (Posada) but it almost makes up for the other 5 years he should have won it.

Edit: Actually, Delgado would have been a good choice too. Still, this makes up for 96 and 02.

Jason

LivnLegend · 11-17-2003, 03:25 PM

Good outcome. I wholeheartedly agree.

andjbock · 11-17-2003, 03:38 PM

Vernon Wells should have gotten more respect for this award.

jaxmagicman · 11-17-2003, 03:49 PM

Yankees' Jason Giambi got one first-place vote

How the hell did that happen.

miami_fan · 11-17-2003, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaxmagicman
Yankees' Jason Giambi got one first-place vote

How the hell did that happen.

Butterfly ballot!

Jason Moyer · 11-17-2003, 03:58 PM

How did David Ortiz rank in the top 50 in voting, nevertheless the top 5?

I'd give Giambi a first place vote over half the guys who actually got one.

Jason

Treches · 11-17-2003, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaxmagicman
Yankees' Jason Giambi got one first-place vote

How the hell did that happen.

Probably the voter was the smart brother of the one who gave Tejada and his .807 OPS another first-placer.

Crapshoot · 11-17-2003, 04:08 PM

Despite themselves, the BBWA got something right. The idiots who voted for Shannon Stewart however, need to be fired- these idiots fail to realize that Santana's move into the rotation had more to do with the Twins success than Stewart. Either way, at least A-Rod was recognized for what he did.

sixto · 11-17-2003, 04:18 PM

I wonder when the phenomenon began to vote for a Shannon Stewart type - a guy who clearly you vote for because you want to prove that you are the smartest guy in the press box and you know a ballplayer when you see one. Barry Larkin's MVP is certainly one such case. Zoilo Versalles maybe? Because sometimes that guy goes ahead and wins.

I have been an advocate of trying to look somewhat beyond the stats, but in this case not only did A-Rod have the best stats, but also there were no other clear-cut candidates. Expect A-Rod to come out and say, though, that the award is "hollow" to him because of his team's poor form.

holyroller · 11-17-2003, 05:04 PM

Statheadzzz, including myself, are very quick to bash the BBWA, but this year they have done a pretty good job with the awards. Sure, they seriously dropped the ball on NL Rookie of the Year, but other than that they have done a good job. They got Berroa right, which I didn't expect them to, and now they cap it by (FINALLY) giving ARod what should be his third MVP.

andjbock · 11-17-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Moyer
How did David Ortiz rank in the top 50 in voting, nevertheless the top 5?

I'd give Giambi a first place vote over half the guys who actually got one.

Jason

Because he had 164 game winning hits for the Sox.

I know he had 5 game winning HRs in extra Innings.

Jason Moyer · 11-17-2003, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andjbock
Because he had 164 game winning hits for the Sox.

That's a lot of wins.

Jason

jaxmagicman · 11-17-2003, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andjbock
Because he had 164 game winning hits for the Sox.

I know he had 5 game winning HRs in extra Innings.

So did he help them win 169 games or just 164 games this year. Your post confused me.

andjbock · 11-17-2003, 05:51 PM

5 of his 164 GWH were HRS

sixto · 11-17-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andjbock
5 of his 164 GWH were HRS

Wow, you do not get it at all.

LivnLegend · 11-17-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holyroller
Statheadzzz, including myself, are very quick to bash the BBWA, but this year they have done a pretty good job with the awards. Sure, they seriously dropped the ball on NL Rookie of the Year, but other than that they have done a good job. They got Berroa right, which I didn't expect them to, and now they cap it by (FINALLY) giving ARod what should be his third MVP.

I knew you'd come around!

Signed,

EGCYM
(Eric Gagne for Cy Young Committee)

Rizon · 11-17-2003, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andjbock
5 of his 164 GWH were HRS

Wait a minute, but ...

Ah hell, nevermind, this is just too funny to explain right now

Mel_Ott · 11-17-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holyroller
Statheadzzz, including myself, are very quick to bash the BBWA, but this year they have done a pretty good job with the awards. Sure, they seriously dropped the ball on NL Rookie of the Year and the NL Cy Young, but other than that they have done a good job. They got Berroa right, which I didn't expect them to, and now they cap it by (FINALLY) giving ARod what should be his third MVP.

There! Fixed that for ya!

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Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,076	It's about time. Weird that it happened in a year when someone else had a legitimate claim (Posada) but it almost makes up for the other 5 years he should have won it. Edit: Actually, Delgado would have been a good choice too. Still, this makes up for 96 and 02. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech Last edited by Jason Moyer; 11-17-2003 at 03:31 PM.

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Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,076	How did David Ortiz rank in the top 50 in voting, nevertheless the top 5? I'd give Giambi a first place vote over half the guys who actually got one. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

11-17-2003, 03:15 PM	#2
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	Finally.

11-17-2003, 03:38 PM	#5
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,637	Vernon Wells should have gotten more respect for this award.

11-17-2003, 04:08 PM	#10
Crapshoot Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: watching: DArwin's missing link in action Posts: 3,112	Despite themselves, the BBWA got something right. The idiots who voted for Shannon Stewart however, need to be fired- these idiots fail to realize that Santana's move into the rotation had more to do with the Twins success than Stewart. Either way, at least A-Rod was recognized for what he did. __________________ Senior Senor Member of the OOTP Boards Pittsburgh Playmates- OTBL

11-17-2003, 04:18 PM	#11
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,262	I wonder when the phenomenon began to vote for a Shannon Stewart type - a guy who clearly you vote for because you want to prove that you are the smartest guy in the press box and you know a ballplayer when you see one. Barry Larkin's MVP is certainly one such case. Zoilo Versalles maybe? Because sometimes that guy goes ahead and wins. I have been an advocate of trying to look somewhat beyond the stats, but in this case not only did A-Rod have the best stats, but also there were no other clear-cut candidates. Expect A-Rod to come out and say, though, that the award is "hollow" to him because of his team's poor form.

11-17-2003, 05:04 PM	#12
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Statheadzzz, including myself, are very quick to bash the BBWA, but this year they have done a pretty good job with the awards. Sure, they seriously dropped the ball on NL Rookie of the Year, but other than that they have done a good job. They got Berroa right, which I didn't expect them to, and now they cap it by (FINALLY) giving ARod what should be his third MVP. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

11-17-2003, 05:51 PM	#16
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,637	5 of his 164 GWH were HRS