Player numbers

blackamus · 07-10-2003, 12:07 AM

Let me preface this by saying I don't have the newest patch so this may have been resolved.
I would like to see the ability to edit numbers whilst in manager mode. Alternately (and preferably IMO) players aquired who have identical numbers to others already on a team would be randomly assigned new numbers.
Secondly, I would like to see retired numbers. It really sucks to roll into Boston for a big series and have not one but two Joe Nobody's wearing #9. Equally bad is seeing the Yanks with J.D. Drew in right wearing #7. This seems like a relatively simple thing(doesn't everyone say that?

) It could be set up simliar to the Hall of Fame in that a player who reaches certain statistical threshholds (while spending the majority of his career(at least 75%)with the same team) would have his number retired.
Tangentially,

I would like to see the threshholds for Hall of Fame entry be adjusted based on position, i.e. a shortstop who with 300 career homers would be Hall of Fame bound whilst a 1B/LF with 500 (if it were a modern league) would not. I realize that I can cherry pick anyone and right click making an instant Hall of Famer...that just feels like cheating to me though

couriers · 07-10-2003, 01:12 AM

1. You can edit player numbers while running a manager mode career by using the Manager Mode Toggle utility found in the Mod section.

2. Retired numbers would be a nice addition.

3. Am I missing something concerning the reasons why a position would make a difference on how hard it would be to achieve hitting 300 or 500 homeruns?

blackamus · 07-10-2003, 07:38 PM

Because Hall of Fame entry (in real life) is dependent on how well one performs compared to ones peers. That is why Fred McGriff and Rafael Palmero will not be Hall of Famers. Although they performed well they were not exceptional when compared to other 1B of their time. Middle infielders are valued above all else for their defense (though that is changing) therefore most teams would take a SS who hit 300 homeruns over a 1B or corner outfielder who totalled 500 for his career. As previously stated, the importance of the defensive position that one plays is a consideration when judging a player's HOF eligibility in real life...and I would like to see that in this game as well.
The reason that I mentioned retired numbers and duplicate numbers together is that to me it would seem that the same logic used to randomly assign a player a new number would dovetail nicely with the logic required to have retired numbers for a team.
Also, I'm not all that bright and can't figure out how to get the utilities to work

couriers · 07-10-2003, 08:33 PM

I guess that my whole point about the Hall of Fame is that the times are a changin. There once was a time when only smaller players were considered to be good shortstops but we are moving in a new direction. It is becoming more and more commonplace for a larger player to secure those positions and therefore 500 homeruns are becoming more of the norm in that respect.

I would agree that the options for Hall of Fame criteria could be increased to include these considerations if one decided to utilize them.

Also, I personally believe that McGriff and Palmero have hit the magic numbers for the Hall and will eventually be inducted.

84CubsFan · 07-10-2003, 11:45 PM

Especially Palmero.

07-10-2003, 12:07 AM	#1
blackamus Major Leagues Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 377	Player numbers Let me preface this by saying I don't have the newest patch so this may have been resolved. I would like to see the ability to edit numbers whilst in manager mode. Alternately (and preferably IMO) players aquired who have identical numbers to others already on a team would be randomly assigned new numbers. Secondly, I would like to see retired numbers. It really sucks to roll into Boston for a big series and have not one but two Joe Nobody's wearing #9. Equally bad is seeing the Yanks with J.D. Drew in right wearing #7. This seems like a relatively simple thing(doesn't everyone say that? ) It could be set up simliar to the Hall of Fame in that a player who reaches certain statistical threshholds (while spending the majority of his career(at least 75%)with the same team) would have his number retired. Tangentially, I would like to see the threshholds for Hall of Fame entry be adjusted based on position, i.e. a shortstop who with 300 career homers would be Hall of Fame bound whilst a 1B/LF with 500 (if it were a modern league) would not. I realize that I can cherry pick anyone and right click making an instant Hall of Famer...that just feels like cheating to me though

07-10-2003, 07:38 PM	#3
blackamus Major Leagues Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 377	Because Hall of Fame entry (in real life) is dependent on how well one performs compared to ones peers. That is why Fred McGriff and Rafael Palmero will not be Hall of Famers. Although they performed well they were not exceptional when compared to other 1B of their time. Middle infielders are valued above all else for their defense (though that is changing) therefore most teams would take a SS who hit 300 homeruns over a 1B or corner outfielder who totalled 500 for his career. As previously stated, the importance of the defensive position that one plays is a consideration when judging a player's HOF eligibility in real life...and I would like to see that in this game as well. The reason that I mentioned retired numbers and duplicate numbers together is that to me it would seem that the same logic used to randomly assign a player a new number would dovetail nicely with the logic required to have retired numbers for a team. Also, I'm not all that bright and can't figure out how to get the utilities to work __________________ http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

07-10-2003, 01:12 AM	#2
couriers All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fla Posts: 932	1. You can edit player numbers while running a manager mode career by using the Manager Mode Toggle utility found in the Mod section. 2. Retired numbers would be a nice addition. 3. Am I missing something concerning the reasons why a position would make a difference on how hard it would be to achieve hitting 300 or 500 homeruns?

07-10-2003, 08:33 PM	#4
couriers All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fla Posts: 932	I guess that my whole point about the Hall of Fame is that the times are a changin. There once was a time when only smaller players were considered to be good shortstops but we are moving in a new direction. It is becoming more and more commonplace for a larger player to secure those positions and therefore 500 homeruns are becoming more of the norm in that respect. I would agree that the options for Hall of Fame criteria could be increased to include these considerations if one decided to utilize them. Also, I personally believe that McGriff and Palmero have hit the magic numbers for the Hall and will eventually be inducted.

07-10-2003, 11:45 PM	#5
84CubsFan Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 376	Especially Palmero.