Learned new position in Spring Training, lost old Position

Iffy_Boatrace · 06-18-2003, 08:30 PM

I traded for a 5 star catcher midseason and kept him in AAA for the remainder of the season (he started on the Big League roster on his old team) but decided at the end of the season that I had a more pressing need at 1st base, so, during Spring Training, I had him Learn New Position at First Base. I deducted points from Defense and Power Hitting to get the necessary 5 points to do it. (Yeah, I'm like the Red Sox, I don't care about Defense)

Well, my player sucessfully became a First Baseman, but completely lost all of his skills at Catcher - to the point where it wasn't even an option to switch to, which totally screws everything up. I like to have multi-dimensional players but now I have a guy who can only play one position and I'm nervous about trying to teach my prospects new positions in Spring Training because they'll either lose skills at thier 'natural' position if they don't learn the new one, or learn the new one but lose the old one. The funny thing is, I've taught players new positions before (only MR to SP though) and never had this type of problem.

I guess I'm asking if anyone else has experienced this.

Trammiker · 06-18-2003, 10:23 PM

Yea, it seems that if you have a player that is of a E range rating, and take away from his defense, he will lose his ratings all together. I had this happen to two players from my team this year.

Most of the time I keep 5's all across the board, but this year I had two guys that had E in ratings, but still had room to improve in the hitting area's. So, I figured, why not take a little of defense and add a little to batting. They can't get much worse right? Well, both my 3rd baseman and SS lost their ratings at that posistion. Funny thing is that is the only position that my 3rd baseman knew. It still has 3rd listed as position in the player card area (where you can change primary posistion), but no ratings.

I think they put this in as players were using the "can't get any worse" method to increase batting every year. Even switching the primary posistion to something like DH since the rating hits only effected that posistion. Now it can effect all posistions that player has ratings for, I think.

Tram

cooper_gd · 06-19-2003, 07:32 AM

Just a hint for the future... ANYONE can learn 1B... even if it is just an E rating... You can just start the would be catcher-turned-1B at 1B (in the bigs) and in 15-30 games he will get a rating. 1B is the position least likely to give you trouble with a bad defensive rating based on a study a by community member.

That, IMO, is a much better option than taking away from the guys skills.

06-18-2003, 08:30 PM	#1
Iffy_Boatrace Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 43	Learned new position in Spring Training, lost old Position I traded for a 5 star catcher midseason and kept him in AAA for the remainder of the season (he started on the Big League roster on his old team) but decided at the end of the season that I had a more pressing need at 1st base, so, during Spring Training, I had him Learn New Position at First Base. I deducted points from Defense and Power Hitting to get the necessary 5 points to do it. (Yeah, I'm like the Red Sox, I don't care about Defense) Well, my player sucessfully became a First Baseman, but completely lost all of his skills at Catcher - to the point where it wasn't even an option to switch to, which totally screws everything up. I like to have multi-dimensional players but now I have a guy who can only play one position and I'm nervous about trying to teach my prospects new positions in Spring Training because they'll either lose skills at thier 'natural' position if they don't learn the new one, or learn the new one but lose the old one. The funny thing is, I've taught players new positions before (only MR to SP though) and never had this type of problem. I guess I'm asking if anyone else has experienced this.

06-19-2003, 07:32 AM	#3
cooper_gd All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PopBunker.net Posts: 1,011	Just a hint for the future... ANYONE can learn 1B... even if it is just an E rating... You can just start the would be catcher-turned-1B at 1B (in the bigs) and in 15-30 games he will get a rating. 1B is the position least likely to give you trouble with a bad defensive rating based on a study a by community member. That, IMO, is a much better option than taking away from the guys skills. __________________

06-18-2003, 10:23 PM	#2
Trammiker Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 71	Yea, it seems that if you have a player that is of a E range rating, and take away from his defense, he will lose his ratings all together. I had this happen to two players from my team this year. Most of the time I keep 5's all across the board, but this year I had two guys that had E in ratings, but still had room to improve in the hitting area's. So, I figured, why not take a little of defense and add a little to batting. They can't get much worse right? Well, both my 3rd baseman and SS lost their ratings at that posistion. Funny thing is that is the only position that my 3rd baseman knew. It still has 3rd listed as position in the player card area (where you can change primary posistion), but no ratings. I think they put this in as players were using the "can't get any worse" method to increase batting every year. Even switching the primary posistion to something like DH since the rating hits only effected that posistion. Now it can effect all posistions that player has ratings for, I think. Tram