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Old 05-15-2025, 06:10 PM   #1
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Historical Minor League Stats Missing

What up OOTP!

So it's been a few years since I've played OOTP on my PC but I finally got the chance to try out this year's edition. Usually, what I love doing with a fresh copy of OOTP is building a fictional historical league from scratch, but this year seems different than what I remember.

In the earlier seasons, I typically manually import players instead of letting the game do it. This time, when doing so, I noticed that historical minor league stats are missing. I always play historical and fictional historical with Import Minor Leagues (1901+) checked ON, so I'm not sure what the issue is here. I tried googling a bunch of terms related to this issue, and even searching reddit, but no one seems to have an answer/fix.

For those wondering, I'm just using the Historical ID used in the game (that is the way to do it, right?), which in this case would be 'walshed01', and I'm just importing him from historical_database.odb. I'm not using a custom database or anything—I actually never figured out how to set that up. Is it even a database issue? Is there a setting I'm just overlooking?




Here's a couple of screenshots to illustrate what I'm talking about here. The first is Ed Walsh from my 1901 start. On the left is the Ed Walsh auto-imported into the 1901 draft class, obviously with Amateur Draft Enabled. All of his majors and minors stats are included. On the right is the manually imported Ed Walsh. You can see that his Connecticut State League stats are missing; Only MLB stats are included. (Note that in both cases the League Scope is set to 'All')






And then in my 1994 league, same thing with Roy Halladay. Auto-imported as part of the '94 draft class, Real Pitching > League Scope > 'All'—everything shows. The manually imported Halladay? No Minor league stats.




Again, I haven't had this problem with previous versions of OOTP. I'm not sure what changed, and I know that this isn't THAT big a deal when it comes to historical play, but I found it curious nonetheless. Any and all feedback, insight, or suggestions are welcome!
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Old 05-15-2025, 08:17 PM   #2
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You need to use the minor league ID if you want to include minor league stats.

So, walsh-002edw and hallad001har.
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Old 05-15-2025, 10:58 PM   #3
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You need to use the minor league ID if you want to include minor league stats.

So, walsh-002edw and hallad001har.

Yo Rain King!

Thanks for responding! Those Ids do look familiar actually—I remember them having hyphens.

I went back into the 1994 league and re-imported Halladay from historical_database.odb using his Historical Minors ID, and this happens...





Now, it's ONLY minor league stats. I'm clearly not doing something right here...
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Hmmmm... Despite what you said above, I'd guess you might have navigated to the "historical_minor_database.odb" and you should have navigated to the "historical_database.odb.odb" and toggled the switch on to also query the minor league database.

If you went to "historical_minor_database.odb" that database is exclusively his minor league stats.

I just tried to import Halladay from the historical_database.odb.odb with the toggle on as described and he came out fine - MLB and Minor League stats in his Real Stats tab. Describe in more detail the steps undertaken before you import.
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Old 05-16-2025, 02:59 AM   #5
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Hmmmm... Despite what you said above, I'd guess you might have navigated to the "historical_minor_database.odb".

A fair guess, but incorrect. The only odb file in my stat folder I ever use is the vanilla historical_database.odb with "Include player(s) in minor league database" toggled ON, like you suggested. And that's the case here with both Walsh and Halladay.

This is fun! I'm legitimately starting to wonder if anyone else has or had this same issue
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This is fun! I'm legitimately starting to wonder if anyone else has or had this same issue
I see a similar issue when I do a default historical season import to create a league. I'm not positive it's the same as yours.

When creating a league using all default settings, but having import complete history selected, players who didn't play in the minor leagues during the import year, have no career minor league stats. Neither in their game stats, or on the real life stats tab.

link to the bug forum where I posted about it in March after release:
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=361392
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Make sure you are up to date. There was an issue that was fixed in the most recent patch.
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I see a similar issue when I do a default historical season import to create a league. I'm not positive it's the same as yours.

When creating a league using all default settings, but having import complete history selected, players who didn't play in the minor leagues during the import year, have no career minor league stats. Neither in their game stats, or on the real life stats tab.

Now THIS is an angle I hadn't considered! I always, just out of instinct, toggle on "Import complete history up to [Year X]" when starting a historical league. I've never not done that, so it might be worth trying your method real quick to see if it makes a difference. I have no idea why one would affect the other, but if it fixes it, I ain't questioning it lol

EDIT: Just tried this setup—makes no difference.Still having the same issue on my end
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Make sure you are up to date. There was an issue that was fixed in the most recent patch.

Hey Rain King,

I downloaded the PC Installer of the most recent patch and installed it into my Desktop folder today. All the game data and everything installed fine, but the same issue still persists.
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Weird. I tested yesterday with the minor league ID and got both the minor league and major league stats for both players.
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Weird. I tested yesterday with the minor league ID and got both the minor league and major league stats for both players.

So just to be clear, when you go into a player—any player—you grab their historical minors ID, which for Todd Helton for example would be helton001tod. Then you when import historical player(s), you select historical_database.odb, paste that player ID in there, and have Include player(s) in minor league database CHECKED?

Because that's exactly what I'm doing every time, and if I use the historical minors ID, I ONLY get the minor league stats, and if I dont have that box checked, then the player doesn't import at ALL, even when the message pops up that the import was successful.

Again, my files are indeed up to date
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So just to be clear, when you go into a player—any player—you grab their historical minors ID, which for Todd Helton for example would be helton001tod. Then you when import historical player(s), you select historical_database.odb, paste that player ID in there, and have Include player(s) in minor league database CHECKED?

Because that's exactly what I'm doing every time, and if I use the historical minors ID, I ONLY get the minor league stats, and if I dont have that box checked, then the player doesn't import at ALL, even when the message pops up that the import was successful.

Again, my files are indeed up to date
Correct. I know you say you are up to date, but the behavior you are describing is from before the most recent patch.

Can you confirm the Build number that is displayed within your game?
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Correct. I know you say you are up to date, but the behavior you are describing is from before the most recent patch.

Sorry for the delay—been busy with work. Question: Once I have the correct build, will I have to start a new game for the change to take effect? I want to know before I start populating my historical league with players. Thanks!
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