Expanded historical minor leagues?

RMc · 03-08-2025, 01:08 PM

How do they look this year? Further back in time, more leagues added? Pray tell!

thehef · 03-08-2025, 05:27 PM

Here's the list of add'l minors to be included...

American Assoc, 1903-31
California League, 1908-09
Central Assoc, 1908-17
Central League, 1903-30
Connecticut St Lg, 1901-12
Eastern Lg, 1916-31
Eastern Tri-State Lg, 1906-14
Illinois-Indiana-Iowa League, 1901-31
International Lg, 1901-26
Interstate Lg, 1901, 1914-16
Missouri Valley Lg, 1905-10
New England Lg, 1901-15, 1926-29
NY State Lg, 1901-17
NY-Penn Lg, 1923-31
North Carolina St Lg, 1913-16
Northern Lg, 1903-05, 1913-16
Northwestern Lg, 1905-17, 1922
PCL, 1901-1920
South Atlantic Lg, 1904-30
Southern Assoc, 1901-31
Texas Lg, 1902-18
Virginia Lg, 1906-27
Western Assoc, 1914-31
Western Lg, 1903-29

Some notes...
1) The above date ranges do not include breaks where leagues may have missed a season or two due to WW1. The missed seasons will be reflected (as missed) in OOTP, but to keep the above list simple I did not indicate these missed seasons (typically, 1918 due to the war).

2) In many cases the leagues above carried on beyond the date range listed. For example, the PCL (obviously) exists after 1920. However, the PCL is already in OOTP beginning in 1921, whereas a league such as the Central Assoc folded after 1917.

3) Why isn't, for example, the 1902 American Assoc included, whereas other leagues start in 1901 or 1902? That's because not enough player data exists for the 1902 AA, whereas for those other leagues, there's enough player data for those leagues to work.

4) Though not likely, there may be some minor tweaks to the list above...

textilemonster · 03-09-2025, 04:29 PM

Cool!

03-08-2025, 01:08 PM	#1
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03-08-2025, 05:27 PM	#2
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Here's the list of add'l minors to be included... American Assoc, 1903-31 California League, 1908-09 Central Assoc, 1908-17 Central League, 1903-30 Connecticut St Lg, 1901-12 Eastern Lg, 1916-31 Eastern Tri-State Lg, 1906-14 Illinois-Indiana-Iowa League, 1901-31 International Lg, 1901-26 Interstate Lg, 1901, 1914-16 Missouri Valley Lg, 1905-10 New England Lg, 1901-15, 1926-29 NY State Lg, 1901-17 NY-Penn Lg, 1923-31 North Carolina St Lg, 1913-16 Northern Lg, 1903-05, 1913-16 Northwestern Lg, 1905-17, 1922 PCL, 1901-1920 South Atlantic Lg, 1904-30 Southern Assoc, 1901-31 Texas Lg, 1902-18 Virginia Lg, 1906-27 Western Assoc, 1914-31 Western Lg, 1903-29 Some notes... 1) The above date ranges do not include breaks where leagues may have missed a season or two due to WW1. The missed seasons will be reflected (as missed) in OOTP, but to keep the above list simple I did not indicate these missed seasons (typically, 1918 due to the war). 2) In many cases the leagues above carried on beyond the date range listed. For example, the PCL (obviously) exists after 1920. However, the PCL is already in OOTP beginning in 1921, whereas a league such as the Central Assoc folded after 1917. 3) Why isn't, for example, the 1902 American Assoc included, whereas other leagues start in 1901 or 1902? That's because not enough player data exists for the 1902 AA, whereas for those other leagues, there's enough player data for those leagues to work. 4) Though not likely, there may be some minor tweaks to the list above...

03-09-2025, 04:29 PM	#3
textilemonster Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2024 Posts: 149	Cool!