Can a team just have a major collapse?

Epicheirema · 07-30-2025, 01:00 AM

For context, a few weeks ago I started a real time start for the Rockies (so start of July 2025) I made some moves at the deadline and signed some players in the off-season. First 30 games the Rockies were 22-8 and now a few weeks down the road the Rockies are 28-57.

Pitching staff wasn't the best to begin with but everyone EVERYONE has gone cold. Are there coaching changes I should look into more? I've just never collapsed like this before. I'm sort of a novice player so I feel I mightve just overlooked something that's actually important.

kq76 · 07-30-2025, 01:40 AM

The usual answer is injuries and just not have enough depth. I think people often overlook depth. I'm big on depth, but I also know to be as I play with injuries on high / "realistic". I also make having a greater trainer specializing in preventiveness as a priority.

But even without a bunch of key injuries I've had my team go ice cold for a stretch. Is there anyone in particular that you were very much depending on, offensively or defensively, to be good and they're just not? Maybe you're relying on a defense first catcher and catcher framing impact is set to 1? That happened to me. Do you have a player you thought would be a good hitter, and they are when just looking at their OBP/SLG, but their baserunning ratings were so bad that it was making their good bat rather pointless? I've also had that happen.

Do you simply have a terrible bullpen and you can't hold any leads? I think that's another thing that is often easily overlooked. You think, "I've got a great closer and the rest aren't bad", but then your closer has a poor year, no one steps up, and then you can't stop anything. My team underperformed last year, but if it weren't for my great bullpen it could have been much worse.

Whatever it is, it's probably a combination of factors as often bad things will be balanced out by good things, but if you have a lot of bad things then their total effect is more noticeable.

eauhomme · 08-23-2025, 02:08 AM

2019--The Mariners started 13-2.

They went 7-21 in May (including 2-14 on the road) and finished 68-94.

07-30-2025, 01:00 AM	#1
Epicheirema Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2025 Posts: 1	Can a team just have a major collapse? For context, a few weeks ago I started a real time start for the Rockies (so start of July 2025) I made some moves at the deadline and signed some players in the off-season. First 30 games the Rockies were 22-8 and now a few weeks down the road the Rockies are 28-57. Pitching staff wasn't the best to begin with but everyone EVERYONE has gone cold. Are there coaching changes I should look into more? I've just never collapsed like this before. I'm sort of a novice player so I feel I mightve just overlooked something that's actually important.

07-30-2025, 01:40 AM	#2
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,755	The usual answer is injuries and just not have enough depth. I think people often overlook depth. I'm big on depth, but I also know to be as I play with injuries on high / "realistic". I also make having a greater trainer specializing in preventiveness as a priority. But even without a bunch of key injuries I've had my team go ice cold for a stretch. Is there anyone in particular that you were very much depending on, offensively or defensively, to be good and they're just not? Maybe you're relying on a defense first catcher and catcher framing impact is set to 1? That happened to me. Do you have a player you thought would be a good hitter, and they are when just looking at their OBP/SLG, but their baserunning ratings were so bad that it was making their good bat rather pointless? I've also had that happen. Do you simply have a terrible bullpen and you can't hold any leads? I think that's another thing that is often easily overlooked. You think, "I've got a great closer and the rest aren't bad", but then your closer has a poor year, no one steps up, and then you can't stop anything. My team underperformed last year, but if it weren't for my great bullpen it could have been much worse. Whatever it is, it's probably a combination of factors as often bad things will be balanced out by good things, but if you have a lot of bad things then their total effect is more noticeable. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

08-23-2025, 02:08 AM	#3
eauhomme Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 122	2019--The Mariners started 13-2. They went 7-21 in May (including 2-14 on the road) and finished 68-94.