Historical Contracts Question

choward2984 · 11-11-2024, 11:57 PM

I've done a couple of historical starts with different teams to see if the contracts remain the same. And they're different every time and sometimes wildly out of control. Does anyone have a method with dealing with these or do you just roll with it?

Rain King · 11-12-2024, 07:55 PM

Can you post an example of a contract that is "wildly out of control"?

I don't play with finances much in historical so maybe something I haven't noticed, but contracts do get randomized a bit based on ratings + years of experience at the beginning of fictional saves so I imagine that is probably the same for historical.

choward2984 · 11-12-2024, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Can you post an example of a contract that is "wildly out of control"?

I don't play with finances much in historical so maybe something I haven't noticed, but contracts do get randomized a bit based on ratings + years of experience at the beginning of fictional saves so I imagine that is probably the same for historical.

Maybe "wildly out of control" is an exaggeration. But it seems like for a team like the 79 M's to have any contract thats $1mil is kind of crazy. Sometimes Paciorek is in the million dollar range too. I know it's hard to get contracts accurate from that time. I was mainly just curious how the salaries are determined.

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Rain King · 11-12-2024, 10:17 PM

Do the contracts make sense based on the financial settings? That is more important for the health of the league.

I'm not sure how much work has been done to get financial levels accurate per year so much as to have them work well as you progress through history. The AI isn't going to be able to understand how financials changed through history...so it is more important to make sure they aren't signing players to contracts that will make things wonky 5 years later in your sim.

The contracts get assigned, generally, based on the players ratings and years of experience plus a bit of randomness.

There are functions where you can adjust all finances in the league by a percentage also. So, you could adjust things to be 75% of what they are currently across the league or something along those lines.

Lots of options like that you could play around with to get things more to your liking.

twins_34 · 11-12-2024, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by choward2984

Maybe "wildly out of control" is an exaggeration. But it seems like for a team like the 79 M's to have any contract thats $1mil is kind of crazy. Sometimes Paciorek is in the million dollar range too. I know it's hard to get contracts accurate from that time. I was mainly just curious how the salaries are determined.

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Actually TBH them contracts look pretty good for 1979. Considering Carew in 1979 was the highest paid at $800,000 in 1980 Nolan Ryan hit $1,000,000 and after that contracts really started to shoot up fast, $2mil by 1985, $3.2mil by 1990.

I would say they are off roughly by $200k. Now pre-FA the contracts are quite high and I am unsure how OOTP can fix them. I started a game in 1970 and contracts are sitting around $465,000 over the historical highest paid player, which was Willie Mays at $135,000. Funny thing is in game Willie is still the highest paid at $600k but just the fact that the contracts are off by that much in 1970 is pretty bad. I will probably 2mil off by the time I hit 1979 and FA.

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choward2984 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 63	Historical Contracts Question I've done a couple of historical starts with different teams to see if the contracts remain the same. And they're different every time and sometimes wildly out of control. Does anyone have a method with dealing with these or do you just roll with it?

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Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Can you post an example of a contract that is "wildly out of control"? I don't play with finances much in historical so maybe something I haven't noticed, but contracts do get randomized a bit based on ratings + years of experience at the beginning of fictional saves so I imagine that is probably the same for historical. Last edited by Rain King; 11-12-2024 at 07:59 PM.

11-12-2024, 10:17 PM	#4
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Do the contracts make sense based on the financial settings? That is more important for the health of the league. I'm not sure how much work has been done to get financial levels accurate per year so much as to have them work well as you progress through history. The AI isn't going to be able to understand how financials changed through history...so it is more important to make sure they aren't signing players to contracts that will make things wonky 5 years later in your sim. The contracts get assigned, generally, based on the players ratings and years of experience plus a bit of randomness. There are functions where you can adjust all finances in the league by a percentage also. So, you could adjust things to be 75% of what they are currently across the league or something along those lines. Lots of options like that you could play around with to get things more to your liking.