It's really sad that this player is so lowly regarded

Bunktown Ballers · 07-01-2024, 01:25 PM

Just because this player plays on a really bad team that his pitching ranking as so sadly represented, This pitcher leads AL in Starts, Strikes Outs, FIP, & K's per 9, 10th in walks per 9 (he's given a 60 ratings in control. He's in Top 10 in at least 5 piching categories, #1 in 2 MLB pitching rankings. His Whip is 0.92 - He's listed by a few as #2 in Cy Young Award. Just go to BASEBALL REFERENCE to see his numbers and ranking. And his player cards a 74 a 74. I think this card should be corrected. OOTP makes superstars out of players that are not even in majors yet, but rates a REAL superstar a 74 which lacks what his true rating can be. Bet your bottom dollar if he was on Yankees or Dodgers this card would be maxed out. It's just quite a shame. IMHO Then he's given a 44 stamia, what a joke.

Bunktown Ballers · 07-01-2024, 01:51 PM

For the context that players are rated on a month to month basis (actually when their player cards get updated...Here are his month stats that raidedhis card from a 68 to a 74. BTW....Kevin Pillar card went up 28 rating points. WTH?

Garrett Crochet for month of June

Crochet, closed June with a 5-2 record, a 1.63 ERA, .181 opponents' average, 12 walks and 101 strikeouts over his last 12 starts covering 71 2/3 innings, and lowered his ERA from 6.37 to 3.02.

PunishedF2P · 07-01-2024, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

For the context that players are rated on a month to month basis (actually when their player cards get updated...Here are his month stats that raidedhis card from a 68 to a 74. BTW....Kevin Pillar card went up 28 rating points. WTH?

Garrett Crochet for month of June

Crochet, closed June with a 5-2 record, a 1.63 ERA, .181 opponents' average, 12 walks and 101 strikeouts over his last 12 starts covering 71 2/3 innings, and lowered his ERA from 6.37 to 3.02.

I'm not sure if they are doing it on purpose, or the new rating system they have implemented just keeps glitching and no one is bothering to fix it manually - but those are really the two choices here.

Pillar went from 1.005 OPS to .864 OPS after a terrible month with an OPS of less that .630 - and then he goes up to diamond? That can't be right.

There's been a number of really weird updates like this one so far - that first update for George Kirby, leading the AL in FIP, he went DOWN, lol. I've noticed way more anomalies this year in the updates that maybe in all of the last three or four years combined.

Bunktown Ballers · 07-01-2024, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PunishedF2P

I'm not sure if they are doing it on purpose, or the new rating system they have implemented just keeps glitching and no one is bothering to fix it manually - but those are really the two choices here.

Pillar went from 1.005 OPS to .864 OPS after a terrible month with an OPS of less that .630 - and then he goes up to diamond? That can't be right.

There's been a number of really weird updates like this one so far - that first update for George Kirby, leading the AL in FIP, he went DOWN, lol. I've noticed way more anomalies this year in the updates that maybe in all of the last three or four years combined.

Well something needs to be fixed. Why even make live cards, when they make u heard of FUTURE LEGEND a LEGEND right off the bat. I only play White Sox card, which is my choice but when a player like Garrett Crochet is 2 levels of ratings below Kevin Pillar (and there are many other cards rivaling the Crochet card) its obvious something ain't right & those other are no real interest to me. Cards that are not White Sox are straight deactivated and/or sold by me. I just got tired of battling the Whales. I've even tried playing all live cards and it told me I couldn't. It's obvious OOTP trying to force me to buy other cards I don't even want. I buy White Sox cards if needed that's all.

PunishedF2P · 07-01-2024, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

Cards that are not White Sox are straight deactivated and/or sold by me.

I run a Seattle Mariners-only team for one of my squads. That's the one place I enjoy combinators; can't see them ever being something I could buy/keep/use on my top team.

Kushiel · 07-02-2024, 07:56 AM

I am convinced that they just put whatever numbers that they want on the cards. We just have to make do.

Bunktown Ballers · 07-03-2024, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kushiel

I am convinced that they just put whatever numbers that they want on the cards. We just have to make do.

And now the very player I'm pushing for just won PITCHER OF THE MONTH & in that month OOTP think hes just worth a little boost & Kevin Pillar is jacked up to a 93 part time outfielder. But it's more than just a card numbers rating boost, it 's all the ratings inside that card. I mean Crochet averages 1.9 walks per 9 & he's given a 60 control ratings, while another pitchers card, a reliever has walked 30 batters in 30 Innings but he's a 75 control ratings. These are just random numbers they get. It's foolish of this company thinking they trying to be realistic. Pretty B.S. too me
Yeah, I agree with you that they just put any numbers they want. But I stand by my comment that if Crochet was playing for the Dodgers or Yankees he'd be a 100 CARD

Bunktown Ballers · 07-03-2024, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PunishedF2P

I run a Seattle Mariners-only team for one of my squads. That's the one place I enjoy combinators; can't see them ever being something I could buy/keep/use on my top team.

Isn't it really enjoyable to run a TEAM Based squad? But certain favorable teams/players get the better rated players & team. I'm waiting for next month when my White Sox team will be decimated by card creators of OOTP as punishment of making obvious points. Someone just wants us to shut up & spend money. I'm pretty sure my run of 25 years with OOTP ends this year or sooner.

Matt Arnold · 07-03-2024, 11:56 AM

Keep in mind live update ratings are still based on preseason projections. So we are about halfway through the season, so someone like Crochet's ratings are still roughly 50% based on his initial ratings. And since he was a reliever who walked more batters last year than he struck out, it will take some time to overcome that.

Some players do move more than others. Pillar moving that much is certainly a surprise, but that is likely a factor where his ratings shifted in a way that his offense just rose enough to combine with his defense to move more.

Mal3607 · 07-05-2024, 11:38 AM

There's an Ernie Banks card that's 77, except it's from the year he won the NL MVP award and his ratings should be so much better for that year.

They dropped that Willie Mays card at 93.... so the top Mays card is less than...Luis Arreaz?

07-02-2024, 07:56 AM	#6
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,810	I am convinced that they just put whatever numbers that they want on the cards. We just have to make do. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

07-05-2024, 11:38 AM	#10
Mal3607 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 47	There are a lot of ratings I don't get There's an Ernie Banks card that's 77, except it's from the year he won the NL MVP award and his ratings should be so much better for that year. They dropped that Willie Mays card at 93.... so the top Mays card is less than...Luis Arreaz?

07-01-2024, 01:25 PM	#1
Bunktown Ballers All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,592 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	It's really sad that this player is so lowly regarded Just because this player plays on a really bad team that his pitching ranking as so sadly represented, This pitcher leads AL in Starts, Strikes Outs, FIP, & K's per 9, 10th in walks per 9 (he's given a 60 ratings in control. He's in Top 10 in at least 5 piching categories, #1 in 2 MLB pitching rankings. His Whip is 0.92 - He's listed by a few as #2 in Cy Young Award. Just go to BASEBALL REFERENCE to see his numbers and ranking. And his player cards a 74 a 74. I think this card should be corrected. OOTP makes superstars out of players that are not even in majors yet, but rates a REAL superstar a 74 which lacks what his true rating can be. Bet your bottom dollar if he was on Yankees or Dodgers this card would be maxed out. It's just quite a shame. IMHO Then he's given a 44 stamia, what a joke. Attached Images Last edited by Bunktown Ballers; 07-01-2024 at 01:31 PM.

07-01-2024, 01:51 PM	#2
Bunktown Ballers All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,592 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	June stats For the context that players are rated on a month to month basis (actually when their player cards get updated...Here are his month stats that raidedhis card from a 68 to a 74. BTW....Kevin Pillar card went up 28 rating points. WTH? Garrett Crochet for month of June Crochet, closed June with a 5-2 record, a 1.63 ERA, .181 opponents' average, 12 walks and 101 strikeouts over his last 12 starts covering 71 2/3 innings, and lowered his ERA from 6.37 to 3.02.

07-03-2024, 11:56 AM	#9
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,624	Keep in mind live update ratings are still based on preseason projections. So we are about halfway through the season, so someone like Crochet's ratings are still roughly 50% based on his initial ratings. And since he was a reliever who walked more batters last year than he struck out, it will take some time to overcome that. Some players do move more than others. Pillar moving that much is certainly a surprise, but that is likely a factor where his ratings shifted in a way that his offense just rose enough to combine with his defense to move more.