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Old 03-17-2024, 10:55 PM   #1
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Consequences of cleaning house?

As mentioned in another thread , I’m new to OOTP and have started a new game as GM of the Twins. What are the consequences of cleaning out the current staff and replacing almost everybody? I’ve got coaches that aren’t good at coaching, a scout that can’t scout, etc. I’d have already given them the heave ho if it wasn’t for the fact that I’ll blow up the staff budget. Currently the budget is around $6m, and I’ll have to pay Baldelli that much alone if I replace him. So is it better to put up with a year or two of bad staff, or rip the band aid off and clean house, especially for a small/mid market team?
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Old 03-18-2024, 06:34 AM   #2
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I'd definitely look at replacing the staff, maybe not all at once but over the next season I'd clean house. A lot depends on your finances of course. Can I afford to replace them all now? Will that leave me any money for other things?

If you're just starting a rebuild, then you have time on your side. However you'll want to get good coaches to help your rebuild. Don't want upside prospects coming into your org and have coaches hurting rather than helping those prospects.

I find, like everything else with my team, I need to have balance. I know I can't do everything at once, I can't turn a crappy team into a winner in one off season. So I look at my team, see where it's at, come up with a plan of attack, then proceed.

So many decision for a GM/Manager to make.
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Old 03-18-2024, 09:19 AM   #3
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It's insane how much you've got to look at starting a new game... I've made offers to a trainer and a scout, based on advice in one of pfholden's videos... now I think I'm going to see if I can shift some staff around to temporarily improve things, like I notice my AAA manager might make a decent MLB hitting coach... I think I've put about ten hours into the game, and I haven't even simmed a game yet!
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Old 03-18-2024, 10:02 AM   #4
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It's insane how much you've got to look at starting a new game... I've made offers to a trainer and a scout, based on advice in one of pfholden's videos... now I think I'm going to see if I can shift some staff around to temporarily improve things, like I notice my AAA manager might make a decent MLB hitting coach... I think I've put about ten hours into the game, and I haven't even simmed a game yet!

If you can promote from within your organization you'll have a cost advantage. I always look within before looking outside for managers and coaches. Of course, then you'll have to replace who you promote but these guys definitely cost less than the big guys.
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Old 03-18-2024, 06:31 PM   #5
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If you can promote from within your organization you'll have a cost advantage. I always look within before looking outside for managers and coaches. Of course, then you'll have to replace who you promote but these guys definitely cost less than the big guys.
Hmm, sign cheap contract for a ball, prote them to AAA, repeat lol
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Old 03-18-2024, 09:19 PM   #6
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I have found over the last few versions that as long as you can reduce the Draft money a bit and trade off some of your Player Development budget (assuming you're up against the wall budget-wise) that it typically costs you around $3.5-7M extra Staff expenses in that first season to get it done.

Obviously if you have a team like the Orioles who have plenty of Cash this isn't an issue.

My personal logic is this: Particularly this season with 25 and its shiny new player lab component, you have to ditch below average coaches and replace them Day One. I might put up with a slightly above average coach at a lower Minor's level for the length of his contract and then replace him then- but it might be better to make use of the game starting fresh with plenty of coaches to pick from. It just means too much to have a Poor coach hanging around IMO.
I have noted in the past that waiting can deal you a blow because once you are ready to replace you find there are no good coaches in the discipline you want left! Ouch.

Good luck!
P.S. Oh! Never forget to scan your existing coaches to determine if one can be promoted and be more productive for the team. The Tigers have a Dominican Manager Yepez who is a stellar hitting coach but a so-so manager. So I always promote him to A or A+ ball hitting coach. Just know that for whatever reason, the game will not show anything below A ball to move to - so in Yepez's case, he is currently at Dominican, you cannot send him to Florida or Arizona as that essentially isn't a promotion, just a lateral move (Latin Am. to America)
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