NeL v26 VS InteGREATed database

[mugwump1970]

I am curious how the NeL players perform in v26. I used the InteGREATed database for v25 and thought it was fantastic. I read the v25 database is not compatible with v26 and Garlon and LansdowneST are working on an update, but I have been getting the itch to use v26. Are the results for NeL players reasonable or should I wait for the InteGREATed database?

My interest lies in historical-fictional with random debut. I love to see players from different eras in the same lineup. Bringing in NeL just makes it even more fun. I don’t use minors, but I do lock in the 1986 season totals/modifiers, and assign myself to run all teams. Very cool when Mays and Judge are in the same lineup, Austin McHenry plays a full career, or Cool Papa Bell leads off ahead of Mike Schmidt.


Thanks!

[LansdowneSt]

The NeL approach in OOTP26 was to take the mod itself and essentially make a base game toggle in 26 to have the game reference the mod stats - in the same way there is a toggle to link a player to his neutralized stats and use those instead of real stats. Coming out of the gate there were some growing pains - esp. with players that overlapped with the AL/NL. It's not perfect but it will scratch your itch until the new version of the mod is ready.

For some perspective, the mod will have a database with not 212 players but ~650. Granted some of those are 1950s Mexican League stars but still, it will be worth the wait. If we can get it out in the weeks ahead, there will be ample time to play test it and many of those players could make it into the base game if OOTPD is amenable to adding more in OOTP27 in the same way they added the 212 players to OOTP26. ... though I will still play using the mod itself next year. Nothing is better than skipping the programming and feeding the stats directly into the engine imho.

The time delay for this year is the additional player creation. Once they are all done, it should be easy to update it from year to year. Thanks for your patience and support for the mod!

[jksander]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

The NeL approach in OOTP26 was to take the mod itself and essentially make a base game toggle in 26 to have the game reference the mod stats - in the same way there is a toggle to link a player to his neutralized stats and use those instead of real stats. Coming out of the gate there were some growing pains - esp. with players that overlapped with the AL/NL. It's not perfect but it will scratch your itch until the new version of the mod is ready.

For some perspective, the mod will have a database with not 212 players but ~650. Granted some of those are 1950s Mexican League stars but still, it will be worth the wait. If we can get it out in the weeks ahead, there will be ample time to play test it and many of those players could make it into the base game if OOTPD is amenable to adding more in OOTP27 in the same way they added the 212 players to OOTP26. ... though I will still play using the mod itself next year. Nothing is better than skipping the programming and feeding the stats directly into the engine imho.

The time delay for this year is the additional player creation. Once they are all done, it should be easy to update it from year to year. Thanks for your patience and support for the mod!

You are doing the Lord's work.

[pholmer]

It is the Lord's work indeed, jksander, and we are fortunate to be able to enjoy the benefits of the hard work and dedication of LansdowneSt, Garlon, and all the others who have contributed to the NeL mod's development. We owe them our thanks every time we play a game with the mod.

I share mugwump1970's enjoyment of playing the game with diverse groups of players from different eras. But even within one era you can create your own dream team combinations. In one game, set in the 1920s, I had an outfield of Babe Ruth in right, Oscar Charleston in center, and Cool Papa Bell in left. In another, set in the 1950s, I had Willie Mays in right, Mickey Mantle in center, and Minnie Minoso in left. Willie wanted some center field time too, so I told Mickey he'd have to share and they agreed to alternate playing center one season and right the next. When Minnie retired, Roger Maris took his place in the outfield and Hank Aaron had to play 2nd base to get a regular spot in the lineup. And I play with injuries turned off so Mickey can live up to the full potential he had when he came to the Yankees in 1951.

I've been playing OOTP since version 9 and I've never enjoyed myself so much or had as much fun as I have when playing with the NeL mod. I'm glad there are others who are enjoying the mod as much as I am.

LansdowneSt, if you are reading this, I have an idea I would like to discuss with you. May I send you a private message?

[LansdowneSt]

Thanks as always for the kind words, pholmer! Of course, DM need no permission request. Send away.