Reverse Sweeps

[Hwilensky]

Reverse sweeps in this game are INSANE....End Rant!!!!1

[bailey]

Those are nothing compared to losing a NINE game parlay to miss the playoffs. I needed 1 win out of 4 or 1 loss out of 4 by the chasing team.
I had the better tiebreaks, but since PT does not play by official MLB rules as of 2023, I lost game 163, too.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by bailey

Those are nothing compared to losing a NINE game parlay to miss the playoffs. I needed 1 win out of 4 or 1 loss out of 4 by the chasing team.
I had the better tiebreaks, but since PT does not play by official MLB rules as of 2023, I lost game 163, too.

lol....What about having the best or second best record and losing in the second round of the playoffs....consistently....Does not only happen to me...There is wild card magic, which I get, and then there is WILD CARD MAGIC...

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

Reverse sweeps in this game are INSANE....End Rant!!!!1

I think it's a human vs computer issue - if players actually played based on their abilities, without the human element (just the randomness), you'd see a lot more reverse sweeps in real life.

But players are, indeed, human. And being down 3-0, or 3-1, or even getting back to 3-2, there's a serious morale factor - players are well aware of how difficult and unlikely a 3-1 comeback is, even (and those happen ALL THE TIME in PT). And the reverse is true; the players on the team up in the series are very confident they'll win the series.

This, of course, greatly effects the actual outcome of the games. In the simulations, the team down (or up) 3-0 or 3-1 plays exactly as if they were playing a game with the series tied at 2-2.

OOTP devs: A possible fix for this would be a slight morale de-boost (to the losing side) or a slight morale boost (to the winning side) when a team goes up 2-0, especially 3-0 and 3-1, making it more likely they'll win the following games, but not enough to make it impossible for the rare comeback.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by PunishedF2P

OOTP devs: A possible fix for this would be a slight morale de-boost (to the losing side) or a slight morale boost (to the winning side) when a team goes up 2-0, especially 3-0 and 3-1, making it more likely they'll win the following games, but not enough to make it impossible for the rare comeback.

"Mighty Mo!" This is a great idea.

[rburgh]

Remember that, in real life, of the four teams that have the most wins in a single season, only one of them won the World Series. Playoffs are a crapshoot.

[Kushiel]

I have never seen an 81 win team win the WS in real life. The Cardinals weren't even that low a few years ago. But in PT...

However, we were talking about reverse sweeps, not who won the WS.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

I have never seen an 81 win team win the WS in real life. The Cardinals weren't even that low a few years ago. But in PT...

However, we were talking about reverse sweeps, not who won the WS.

The game is crap!! Utter Crap!!! 4 weeks in a row, I have the superior team, 2nd best record in the league, have to play the wild card game because the guy with the best record wins my division, and I lose to an inferior team and a reverse sweep none the less...BS.....End Rant..

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

The game is crap!! Utter Crap!!! 4 weeks in a row, I have the superior team, 2nd best record in the league, have to play the wild card game because the guy with the best record wins my division, and I lose to an inferior team and a reverse sweep none the less...BS.....End Rant..

I had the 2nd best record in my conference but had to play the wild card round because the guy with the best record was in my division. I collected extra PP for sweeping that round. I faced my division mate in the division series. I duly followed Wild Card Mojo Theory and lost the first two games and won the next two games and discovered that WCMT is ... BS... End Rant.

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

The game is crap!! Utter Crap!!! 4 weeks in a row, I have the superior team, 2nd best record in the league, have to play the wild card game because the guy with the best record wins my division, and I lose to an inferior team and a reverse sweep none the less...BS.....End Rant..

I've been there twice this year (2nd best record in the league but the best team was in my division). Lost in the Wildcard both times, lol.

But that's real life, too.

This year the Rays have the 2nd best record in the AL with a whopping 8 game lead over the next best division winner. But Baltimore is in the same division and they've had an unbelievable year, of course.

So it goes, sometimes...

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by PunishedF2P

I've been there twice this year (2nd best record in the league but the best team was in my division). Lost in the Wildcard both times, lol.

But that's real life, too.

This year the Rays have the 2nd best record in the AL with a whopping 8 game lead over the next best division winner. But Baltimore is in the same division and they've had an unbelievable year, of course.

So it goes, sometimes...

I know...just ranting...extremely frustrating thats all...lol

[rburgh]

I have never seen an 81 win team win the WS in real life.

This has been possible for how many seasons in MLB? 50 maybe? There are about 600 PT leagues in play every week, And every one of your teams sees at least 51 leagues per year, allowing for the entry league season. So why do you think that it should NEVER happen in PT?

[rburgh]

I had the 2nd best record in my conference but had to play the wild card round because the guy with the best record was in my division. I collected extra PP for sweeping that round. I faced my division mate in the division series. I duly followed Wild Card Mojo Theory and lost the first two games and won the next two games and discovered that WCMT is ... BS... End Rant.

I was thinking of this thread as the 5th game was simulating. But if I had lost, there would have been another season starting the next day. Unlike in real baseball, our players don't age, or hold out, or get hurt, or leave in free agency. Heck, we can't even trade them. (A trading mechanism would be interesting, but likely would be abused beyond belief.)

[Janks]

Every week I avoid this. I never make the playoffs, so this can never happen to me.

I beat the Reverse Sweep!

[LeeD]

Now why didn't I think of that?

[LeeD]

Secondarily, let me tell you all about the time my team was 78-65, had a five-game lead, and was way up in the Wild Card standings. Lost 13 in a row and won only two of the remaining six to finish under .500 and out of the playoffs. Same team had a magic number of two with six to play and lost five of six while the two trailing teams won out and dropped me into third place, out of the playoffs. It's been a rough year of Septembers.

[rburgh]

See that they have a chance to make the playoffs and bust a nut to complete a crucial mission or two, or buy some PP's to grab a guy for an upgrade. So it's far from surprising to see a team or two end their season with a huge rush. This happened all over the place when the perfect B-A-L missions dopped way back when, and lots of teams had been prepared to close out the mission series in a rush, going from mediocre to meta in a day or two.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by rburgh

See that they have a chance to make the playoffs and bust a nut to complete a crucial mission or two, or buy some PP's to grab a guy for an upgrade. So it's far from surprising to see a team or two end their season with a huge rush. This happened all over the place when the perfect B-A-L missions dopped way back when, and lots of teams had been prepared to close out the mission series in a rush, going from mediocre to meta in a day or two.

It happens a crazy amount in tournaments too!! There was a stretch where is was reversed swept 7 out of 10 times in the semi's of a tournament. 5 of those times I had a fully rested team.