Hit by Pitch/Charging the Mound

[plannine]

http://www.ct30.com/temp/hbp.png

Hit by pitch, followed by player charging the mount is not resulting in a ejection of the pitcher and the batter.

[Sweed]

Are you in spring training? I don't think there are suspensions in ST. At least I think I recall seeing a mound charge with no suspensions in my game in my last ST. Speculation, maybe it causes issues, when rosters go from ST to regular season active status, that aren't worth coding around?

FWIW I know I am seeing them in my regular season.

Now if you're not is ST, than something is wrong.

[plannine]

Regular season, random players.

After the first HBP, it was followed by two intentional HBP.
Nobody tossed out of the game. No suspensions.

(Version 24, build 37)

[Sweed]

Any chance your "Enable Suspensions" option is NOT checked?

Location to check is..

Game settings>players & teams

left window


Last thing I can think of other than you've found a bug.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Any chance your "Enable Suspensions" option is NOT checked?

Location to check is..

Game settings>players & teams

left window


Last thing I can think of other than you've found a bug.

Both Enable Injuries and Suspensions are checked.
Suspension Frequency is set to Normal

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by plannine

Both Enable Injuries and Suspensions are checked.
Suspension Frequency is set to Normal

Any reason you're still playing build 37? Is that the release version? sorry I don't recall. Official version is up to build 52, with a new beta patch supposedly coming out this week.

I play build 52 and I know suspensions are working in my game.

Other than updating, then testing, I've got nothing.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Any reason you're still playing build 37? Is that the release version? sorry I don't recall. Official version is up to build 52, with a new beta patch supposedly coming out this week.

I play build 52 and I know suspensions are working in my game.

Other than updating, then testing, I've got nothing.

Updated to v24.3 Build 52.
No change when batter charges mound.
Both pitcher and batter stay in game.

[plannine]

Nobody else is having this issue?

[Sweed]

I just had a RP come off of the suspended list for hitting a batter. Yes, the batter was also suspended. I went back and looked at my game log and box score for that game. While the game log notes the benches clearing it does not mention the expulsions (I don't look at logs much and assumed expulsions would be in the text). The log does show the new RP and PR coming into the game, where yours does not Here are my log and box score...

[Sweed]

It looks like you are running some kind of historical game? I see a few late 1800's players and then Mike Fontenot. My first thought was a historical game with actual lineups, which might disable suspensions. But Fontenot is there so no idea. Something in your settings? Something about mixing players from different eras causes a bug? IDK. I would submit a support ticket and see if they want to look at your file to see what is happening.

Good luck, hope you find a cause and fix.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by Sweed

It looks like you are running some kind of historical game? I see a few late 1800's players and then Mike Fontenot. My first thought was a historical game with actual lineups, which might disable suspensions. But Fontenot is there so no idea. Something in your settings? Something about mixing players from different eras causes a bug? IDK. I would submit a support ticket and see if they want to look at your file to see what is happening.

Good luck, hope you find a cause and fix.

It is a random league, with the teams file modified (expansion happens in the 1915 and 1925 with PCL cities being added) and no minors.
In OOTP23, I also used the same modified team file, and it did do ejections after fights

[plannine]

Originally Posted by plannine

It is a random league, with the teams file modified (expansion happens in the 1915 and 1925 with PCL cities being added) and no minors.
In OOTP23, I also used the modified team file, and it did do ejections after fights

It seems that playing the 'current' season (aka Real World) or fictional, charging the mound results in a ejection, but playing random history or a single historic year, it does not happen.
Playing 1980, I just had John Curtis intentionally hit the first 4 San Francisco batters, with two charging the mound, Curtis was not tossed (the game says he and the batter were tossed, but he is still on the mount and the batter on first). So Curtis hits 4 more, with three charging the mound, and he is still pitching. (Curtis was finally replaced by the computer coach, after the 9th HBP, for giving up 6 runs, with no outs and the bases full).

[uruguru]

Old School Baseball.

Break it up, guys, and take your base.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by uruguru

Old School Baseball.

Break it up, guys, and take your base.

That would make sense, if it worked that way in previous version.
And it only happens when using a non current season historical setting.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by plannine

Nobody else is having this issue?

I had this happen yesterday, no ejections. My suspensions are set to Low.


I'm playing in the 60s, so it feels realistic.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by uruguru

I had this happen yesterday, no ejections. My suspensions are set to Low.


I'm playing in the 60s, so it feels realistic.

I have suspensions set to normal/high.

[uruguru]

So maybe there's a base chance that charging the mound won't result in suspension, and that chance is lower the higher you have your suspension setting? So it's less likely for you, but still possible.

I remember a Jomboy breakdown of a 70s game with a fist-fight at 3B between George Brett and a runner than came in hard. Punches thrown, benches cleared, umpires calm everyone down, no ejections and the game resumed as if nothing happened.

haha here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5W2Z0etMEs

[plannine]

Originally Posted by plannine

I have suspensions set to normal/high.

Problem is the game says the pitcher and the batter are ejected. But they both stay in the game. It didn't do this in the previous version of the game.

[plannine]

http://www.ct30.com/temp/HBP2.png

Originally Posted by plannine

http://www.ct30.com/temp/hbp.png

Hit by pitch, followed by player charging the mount is not resulting in a ejection of the pitcher and the batter.

This issue is still in OOTP25, when using historical league with random players.

What is really strange is, that if you have minors set up, players in the minors do get ejected on a fight after a HBP, but not in the majors.

In the example above, in back to back half innings, both pitchers are hit and charge the mound, and both stay in the game.