Advice

Katrina · 05-07-2003, 10:55 PM

In my online league my team is doing horrible and the trade deadline approaches. My question is this-Should I dump all of my high priced veterans and start fresh? I only have a couple of good players right now but I have some good prospects and could get more if I traded the few good veteran players I have. Or do I still need a few veterans to help the younger players mature? Thanks

Draft Dodger · 05-07-2003, 11:03 PM

you don't need the veterans to help the youngsters mature, but I'm in the "don't be too hasty to rebuild" camp. a couple key free agent signings and things can turn around pretty quickly

Eckstein 4 Prez · 05-07-2003, 11:06 PM

I, on the other hand, like to be ready to rebuild. A lot of teams will overpay in prospects for players who only have 1-2 good years left. I love trading my 34-year-old stars for 2-3 really good prospects, then watching the next season as my young guys have a solid year while the old star just fades.

Dwolfson20 · 05-07-2003, 11:32 PM

It depends, like DD said, what kind of free agent class your league is going to have. If you can easily retool in the offseason, then I would keep the veterans. But if you don't want to sign any free agents, then I would trade the veterans for prospects and get a high draft pick. Personally, I enjoy rebuilding a team very much, but some people find it to be a chore.

MTXperience · 05-07-2003, 11:33 PM

I agree with Eck... fire sale time if what you say is true. You only have a couple good stars left.

ABK · 05-07-2003, 11:45 PM

Is there a way to trade for a higher draft pick???

I have not been able to find that option when trading, but it would be great if you could

Dwolfson20 · 05-07-2003, 11:59 PM

No, unless you count trading all your good players and getting a worse record.

Springtime_for_Hunter · 05-08-2003, 12:47 AM

Rebuild but hang onto Lavan.

magicmike · 05-08-2003, 05:58 AM

Anybody have any thoughts about how fan interest and loyalty (and therefore revenue) may be affected if Kat trades all her established stars? I personally haven't run into the scenario, but I've read that you could take a hit there.

Henry · 05-08-2003, 06:04 AM

Hey Katrina,

It probably depends on what "you" enjoy more. Either idea could work. I have done both.... then again, we're in the same league - so why would you listen to me ? LOL

Henry

blubbla · 05-08-2003, 03:18 PM

I'd see what I could get, but I'd only pull the trigger if I got an offer I absolutely couldn't refuse.

Kelric · 05-08-2003, 03:41 PM

I'm one who likes the challenge of rebuilding.

Tear it down, start over with youth.

blmeanie · 05-08-2003, 04:42 PM

Katrina - if one of your good players were a shortstop that could ACTUALLY HIT OVER .180 I'd be interested...

sorry, I had to vent...seriously, look over Pepperland and let me know if there is anything you feel would help both sides.

Steve

ctorg · 05-09-2003, 09:17 AM

I just took a look at your team online. You're 16 games out, which is not insurmountable, so I wouldn't give everything up just like that. There are two teams below you in your division. Your team looks like it could be a contender if you added a couple of stars in the right spots. You could use a good SP and a SS. Guzman just isn't cutting it at short. He doesn't have the defensive ability to make up for his offensive shortcomings. Same with Mendoza, the CF. He's a C in range and is really not very good offensively. If you could make big improvements at those two positions and solidify your staff a bit, I think you'd find yourself in contention.

05-07-2003, 10:55 PM	#1
Katrina Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 221	Advice In my online league my team is doing horrible and the trade deadline approaches. My question is this-Should I dump all of my high priced veterans and start fresh? I only have a couple of good players right now but I have some good prospects and could get more if I traded the few good veteran players I have. Or do I still need a few veterans to help the younger players mature? Thanks __________________ OOTP5 Beta Tester OOL Rockford Peaches Anaheim Angels Fan MSN-girlprincess1@cox.net

05-07-2003, 11:03 PM	#2
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	you don't need the veterans to help the youngsters mature, but I'm in the "don't be too hasty to rebuild" camp. a couple key free agent signings and things can turn around pretty quickly __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

05-07-2003, 11:06 PM	#3
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	I, on the other hand, like to be ready to rebuild. A lot of teams will overpay in prospects for players who only have 1-2 good years left. I love trading my 34-year-old stars for 2-3 really good prospects, then watching the next season as my young guys have a solid year while the old star just fades. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

05-07-2003, 11:32 PM	#4
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	It depends, like DD said, what kind of free agent class your league is going to have. If you can easily retool in the offseason, then I would keep the veterans. But if you don't want to sign any free agents, then I would trade the veterans for prospects and get a high draft pick. Personally, I enjoy rebuilding a team very much, but some people find it to be a chore. __________________

05-07-2003, 11:59 PM	#7
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	No, unless you count trading all your good players and getting a worse record. __________________

05-07-2003, 11:33 PM	#5
MTXperience Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 372	I agree with Eck... fire sale time if what you say is true. You only have a couple good stars left.

05-07-2003, 11:45 PM	#6
ABK Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 26	Is there a way to trade for a higher draft pick??? I have not been able to find that option when trading, but it would be great if you could

05-08-2003, 12:47 AM	#8
Springtime_for_Hunter All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 846	Rebuild but hang onto Lavan. __________________ "Only the utterly impossible, the inexpressibly fantastic, can ever be plausible again" Red Smith, New York Herald-Tribune, October 4, 1951

05-08-2003, 05:58 AM	#9
magicmike Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hawaii Posts: 365	Anybody have any thoughts about how fan interest and loyalty (and therefore revenue) may be affected if Kat trades all her established stars? I personally haven't run into the scenario, but I've read that you could take a hit there. __________________ aloha and mahalo HCBL Kansas City Royals 2003 AL Central Champs SMLB Houston Astros VLB Anaheim Angels UBL Pittsburgh Pirates "Barry Bonds? I'll tell you what, if he hit a home run off (Bob) Gibson or (Don) Drysdale and stood and admired it, they'd knock that earring out of his ear the next time up." - National League Umpire Doug Harvey

05-08-2003, 06:04 AM	#10
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Hey Katrina, It probably depends on what "you" enjoy more. Either idea could work. I have done both.... then again, we're in the same league - so why would you listen to me ? LOL Henry

05-08-2003, 03:18 PM	#11
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	I'd see what I could get, but I'd only pull the trigger if I got an offer I absolutely couldn't refuse.

05-08-2003, 03:41 PM	#12
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I'm one who likes the challenge of rebuilding. Tear it down, start over with youth.

05-08-2003, 04:42 PM	#13
blmeanie All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,044	Katrina - if one of your good players were a shortstop that could ACTUALLY HIT OVER .180 I'd be interested... sorry, I had to vent...seriously, look over Pepperland and let me know if there is anything you feel would help both sides. Steve __________________ blmeanie email me at blmeanie Above link works for some email client programs but not all, email me at blmeanie33@earthlink.net

05-09-2003, 09:17 AM	#14
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I just took a look at your team online. You're 16 games out, which is not insurmountable, so I wouldn't give everything up just like that. There are two teams below you in your division. Your team looks like it could be a contender if you added a couple of stars in the right spots. You could use a good SP and a SS. Guzman just isn't cutting it at short. He doesn't have the defensive ability to make up for his offensive shortcomings. Same with Mendoza, the CF. He's a C in range and is really not very good offensively. If you could make big improvements at those two positions and solidify your staff a bit, I think you'd find yourself in contention. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils