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Old 07-19-2022, 10:59 AM   #1
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Statistical Anomaly

I just noticed this weird season Tatis Jr had in 2037. 353 strikeouts and -6.7 WAR seems a little excessive based on his ratings. I play with scouts set to 100% accurate. I checked the editor and his ratings are correct, so no issues there. I've poiked around and can't find any other instances yet. Just curious if anyone else has experienced this.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:02 AM   #2
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I just noticed this weird season Tatis Jr had in 2037. 353 strikeouts and -6.7 WAR seems a little excessive based on his ratings. I play with scouts set to 100% accurate. I checked the editor and his ratings are correct, so no issues there. I've poiked around and can't find any other instances yet. Just curious if anyone else has experienced this.



I would check the leaderboards... Sometimes sims get out of whack with stats in general.


What are the pitching leaders looking like in strikeout totals? Also the batting average leaders?
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:09 AM   #3
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Nothing abnormal in the league history. Batter strikeouts look consistant per player. High strike out guys are consistant with their ratings, and no serious jumps like Tatis had. Might be a fluke.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:22 AM   #4
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Yeah, could be... He is getting old and certainly declining.

I guess the next question is... Why would he be played so much when he is having that poor of a season... and his decline at SS is rough and with a WAR that terrible it leads me to believe he is the starting SS.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:34 AM   #5
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I guess the next question is... Why would he be played so much when he is having that poor of a season...
I've seen this happen way too often when the 'ratings' portion of the 'AI Player Evaluation' is set too high. I don't know if that's the reason, but it's a good starting point. Couple that with a manager that has a higher than average "Ratings Value' and he could K every AB for the whole season and he'd still start because of his 'ratings'.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:35 AM   #6
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His ratings are still really good, so it makes sense he would be the starter. As I said, scouts are set to 100% accurate, and the editor settings match the ratings. The stats are just really weird. I just signed him as a FA, so we'll see how this season goes.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:40 AM   #7
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I've seen this happen way too often when the 'ratings' portion of the 'AI Player Evaluation' is set too high. I don't know if that's the reason, but it's a good starting point. Couple that with a manager that has a higher than average "Ratings Value' and he could K every AB for the whole season and he'd still start because of his 'ratings'.
I was curious about other "old" players with high ratings, so I checked out a few. Nothing unusual so far. Stats are what I would expect. Nothing extreme, but I'll see how the next season goes and throw a post up later.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:41 AM   #8
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The game doesn't limit implausible outliers caused by randomness.
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The cover up is usually more damaging than the original act.
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Old 07-19-2022, 11:43 AM   #9
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The game doesn't limit implausible outliers caused by randomness.
Guess I'll chalk it up to his wife left him that season.
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I don't have the ratings but the game was on three year recalc and there is no plausible three year input that could result in these actual ratings when dropping 1981 and adding 1984

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AB 575
HRs 44 (league leader)
BA .320
Slugging .617 (league leader)


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AB 470
HRs 12
BA .179
Slugging .315
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Old 07-19-2022, 03:03 PM   #11
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I think that sometimes when players don't have backups for whatever reason they end up playing a large portion of the season at 0% energy and are just terrible since they are tired. Might have happened to Tatis Jr. here.
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I think that sometimes when players don't have backups for whatever reason they end up playing a large portion of the season at 0% energy and are just terrible since they are tired. Might have happened to Tatis Jr. here.
Maybe. The following season was more in line with what i expected statistically. Just a weird fluke I guess.
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