Buy Your Cards

sdw1000 · 09-21-2021, 06:02 PM

I've realized the ones that do well are ones that buy their cards. I've got a great team but now they suck. And don't give me this crap about "That's how baseball is"...no..it's rigged so you buy PT cards so you advance further with 100 rating cards. Also, it doesn't matter how you set your line-up..the AI will do whatever the hell it wants with the line-up. I've had the AI lose me games because it swapped out someone when I don't have that in the settings.

chazzycat · 09-21-2021, 06:24 PM

I mean yeah, trying to pull the cards you want from packs is really unlikely. Buying is the way to go

professor ape · 09-21-2021, 06:52 PM

I’m F2P and have worked the tournaments and missions all season. I have completed every mission except for the two most recent Player of the Month missions and my team has been in Diamond for the last twelve weeks except for the one week where I made it to the Perfect League for the first time. It has been said accurately many times that yo win at this game, you either need to invest money or time. If the game were rigged to disadvantage players who are not spending money, then that would mean that I need to by a lot of lottery tickets since ai must be the luckiest guy in the game.

ubernoob · 09-22-2021, 01:15 AM

Same. I dropped a little money at the release for a head-start and have been able to complete pretty much every mission so far as a "f2p" player (which, I'm not true f2p since I put money in at the beginning, but outside of that most everything comes through tournaments/packs/market.)

Granted my pack luck this year blows away my pack luck the last couple years.

professor ape · 09-22-2021, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ubernoob

Same. I dropped a little money at the release for a head-start and have been able to complete pretty much every mission so far as a "f2p" player (which, I'm not true f2p since I put money in at the beginning, but outside of that most everything comes through tournaments/packs/market.)

Granted my pack luck this year blows away my pack luck the last couple years.

Admittedly I put in $10 on Day 1 so that I could get a jump on my Bronze tournament team. I have been F2P other than that.

Hertston · 09-23-2021, 07:44 AM

Not really sure what you mean by 'rigged'? I don't have professor ape's skill at winning tourneys, using the market well or both, but I've still been able to complete most of them and am completely FTP. I have what I consider a 'great team' too, but they seem poised for relegation this year after several .500 seasons in Diamond, and it''s actually fun trying to figure out why so they can bounce back (hopefully) next week. As to 100 cards, I currently have over fifty (at least half of which I currently consider 'unplayable').

If you mean do players that spend real money have an advantage, of course they do. The whole purpose of the game for the developers/publishers is to generate profits. People will only pay if they get something for it.

Lastly, in case you weren't aware of it, the ONLY way for an FTP player to progress in PT is to win card packs (and the occasional card) from tourneys. Hundreds and, not infrequently, thousands of the things over the game cycle. Unless you are opening at least ten (and ideally twice that) packs a day, you will get nowhere. We all buy most cards from the auction using the proceeds of those we sell. You could wait a lifetime for all the cards you need to complete the missions to drop.

professor ape · 09-23-2021, 09:17 AM

I’m impressed that there are different paths to success as a F2P. Some people are experts at playing the AH while others focus on tournaments. We all do some of both but what is important is that you are not forced down one narrow road as a F2P.
I go back to my initial statement that there are to routes to success; money or time. I don’t begrudge the whales because without them, the game would not exist. People who want to pump a ton of money into building a winning team have every right to do so. As a F2P, I take a level of pride in being able to build a team which can compete with them at the higher levels.

Ty Cobb · 09-23-2021, 10:07 AM

You are correct, Professor. The fact that you can succeed at any level even as an FTP (remind me, but I think Perfect WS was won twice by FTP's last year) is amazing. I've won a couple of Gold's this year as an FTP. Not too shabby for a cheapskate.

I hate to break the news to the OP, but this is a business. It takes a hefty revenue stream to pay for product development...or to keep the price low...or to keep our development team accessible on the forums. We're seeing the benefits of PT's revenue stream in so many ways that aren't apparent until you sit back and look at the game improvements as a whole. I think the investment has paid off in spades for all of us.

professor ape · 09-24-2021, 12:31 AM

What a great night! 25 of the TM3 missions done when they dropped and four more completed with a small number of PPs. I should have the final mission done tomorrow with about 50 duplicate Silver cards to sell at a substantial profit. That Gehrig card seems like it is going to be sick!

Hertston · 09-24-2021, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

What a great night! 25 of the TM3 missions done when they dropped and four more completed with a small number of PPs. I should have the final mission done tomorrow with about 50 duplicate Silver cards to sell at a substantial profit. That Gehrig card seems like it is going to be sick!

LOL.. that's the reward of your previous progress for you! Still, can't complain, I had six already done and completed four more with the meagre funds I had available. I don't tend to retain duplicates (see my comment on the AH above), but it was gratifying to see large numbers of my 'not in mission' cards no longer being so.

How does Gehrig compare to Prince Fielder? I'm in need of a first base to replace the underwhelming Giambi, but currently need to prioritise one or the other. From what you say Gehrig is probably better.. but then Fielder is one of my favourite players ever (as in, I even have the replica shirt).

Hertston · 09-24-2021, 02:27 AM

Wrong place, sorry.

ncap99 · 09-24-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hertston

LOL.. that's the reward of your previous progress for you! Still, can't complain, I had six already done and completed four more with the meagre funds I had available. I don't tend to retain duplicates (see my comment on the AH above), but it was gratifying to see large numbers of my 'not in mission' cards no longer being so.

How does Gehrig compare to Prince Fielder? I'm in need of a first base to replace the underwhelming Giambi, but currently need to prioritise one or the other. From what you say Gehrig is probably better.. but then Fielder is one of my favourite players ever (as in, I even have the replica shirt).

Gehrig is better by quite a large margin.

professor ape · 09-24-2021, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hertston

How does Gehrig compare to Prince Fielder? I'm in need of a first base to replace the underwhelming Giambi, but currently need to prioritise one or the other. From what you say Gehrig is probably better.. but then Fielder is one of my favourite players ever (as in, I even have the replica shirt).

No comparison. Neither is good on the basepaths and they are comparable as middling fielders, but there is no contest at the plate.

Fielder (L/R)
Con 82/100
Gap 62/77
Pwr 98/123
Eye 75/91
AvK 69/83

Gehrig (L/R)
Con 94/104
Gap 95/117
Pwr 159/145
Eye 92/106
AvK 75/93

chazzycat · 09-24-2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

What a great night! 25 of the TM3 missions done when they dropped and four more completed with a small number of PPs. I should have the final mission done tomorrow with about 50 duplicate Silver cards to sell at a substantial profit. That Gehrig card seems like it is going to be sick!

Word. It was indeed a great night. I finished the missions without buying a single card, and sold 700k worth of duplicate silvers. Between that and the looming live update, I should have a nice amount of PP to buy elite cards after we see FH3 and see what gaps remain on my team. Feeling pretty good.

ncap99 · 09-25-2021, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

Word. It was indeed a great night. I finished the missions without buying a single card, and sold 700k worth of duplicate silvers. Between that and the looming live update, I should have a nice amount of PP to buy elite cards after we see FH3 and see what gaps remain on my team. Feeling pretty good.

Very nice. I probably had to spend a modest amount to finish them - probably in the 100k range, but sold about 400k worth of silver dupes. FH3 in 2-3 weeks will definitely be interesting as the end of the line when it comes to team missions. There are still so many all time greats without a peak card (Ruth, Mays, Bench, Walter Johnson, Cobb, Aaron, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, Hornsby, Ted Williams, etc etc) so I would expect this set to be epic.

professor ape · 09-25-2021, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ncap99

Very nice. I probably had to spend a modest amount to finish them - probably in the 100k range, but sold about 400k worth of silver dupes. FH3 in 2-3 weeks will definitely be interesting as the end of the line when it comes to team missions. There are still so many all time greats without a peak card (Ruth, Mays, Bench, Walter Johnson, Cobb, Aaron, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, Hornsby, Ted Williams, etc etc) so I would expect this set to be epic.

For once, I hope Kris and team wait for three or four weeks to drop the final piece of FH3. The available players now have made roster construction pretty interesting and I’d like to ride it for a few weeks. Of course, it would be great to get some fun side missions with pack rewards to fill the gap.

chazzycat · 09-27-2021, 03:22 PM

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually kinda hope the last question mark set of missions is more difficult. I've been over-prepared for the last 2 mission releases (prime performers & TM3) and have a bunch of unlocked diamonds & perfects still. They have been a lot easier than they were last year, so far.

professor ape · 09-27-2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually kinda hope the last question mark set of missions is more difficult. I've been over-prepared for the last 2 mission releases (prime performers & TM3) and have a bunch of unlocked diamonds & perfects still. They have been a lot easier than they were last year, so far.

I’m right there with you. Of course, I’ll change my tune when the card I want has a choke point which would cost me 200K to get past.

09-21-2021, 06:02 PM	#1
sdw1000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SC USA Posts: 934 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Buy Your Cards I've realized the ones that do well are ones that buy their cards. I've got a great team but now they suck. And don't give me this crap about "That's how baseball is"...no..it's rigged so you buy PT cards so you advance further with 100 rating cards. Also, it doesn't matter how you set your line-up..the AI will do whatever the hell it wants with the line-up. I've had the AI lose me games because it swapped out someone when I don't have that in the settings. Last edited by sdw1000; 09-21-2021 at 06:04 PM.

09-21-2021, 06:52 PM	#3
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	I’m F2P and have worked the tournaments and missions all season. I have completed every mission except for the two most recent Player of the Month missions and my team has been in Diamond for the last twelve weeks except for the one week where I made it to the Perfect League for the first time. It has been said accurately many times that yo win at this game, you either need to invest money or time. If the game were rigged to disadvantage players who are not spending money, then that would mean that I need to by a lot of lottery tickets since ai must be the luckiest guy in the game. __________________

09-22-2021, 01:15 AM	#4
ubernoob Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 300	Same. I dropped a little money at the release for a head-start and have been able to complete pretty much every mission so far as a "f2p" player (which, I'm not true f2p since I put money in at the beginning, but outside of that most everything comes through tournaments/packs/market.) Granted my pack luck this year blows away my pack luck the last couple years. __________________

09-23-2021, 07:44 AM	#6
Hertston Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 327	Not really sure what you mean by 'rigged'? I don't have professor ape's skill at winning tourneys, using the market well or both, but I've still been able to complete most of them and am completely FTP. I have what I consider a 'great team' too, but they seem poised for relegation this year after several .500 seasons in Diamond, and it''s actually fun trying to figure out why so they can bounce back (hopefully) next week. As to 100 cards, I currently have over fifty (at least half of which I currently consider 'unplayable'). If you mean do players that spend real money have an advantage, of course they do. The whole purpose of the game for the developers/publishers is to generate profits. People will only pay if they get something for it. Lastly, in case you weren't aware of it, the ONLY way for an FTP player to progress in PT is to win card packs (and the occasional card) from tourneys. Hundreds and, not infrequently, thousands of the things over the game cycle. Unless you are opening at least ten (and ideally twice that) packs a day, you will get nowhere. We all buy most cards from the auction using the proceeds of those we sell. You could wait a lifetime for all the cards you need to complete the missions to drop. __________________ Ballymahon Bassets (FTP) Last edited by Hertston; 09-23-2021 at 07:49 AM.

09-23-2021, 09:17 AM	#7
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	I’m impressed that there are different paths to success as a F2P. Some people are experts at playing the AH while others focus on tournaments. We all do some of both but what is important is that you are not forced down one narrow road as a F2P. I go back to my initial statement that there are to routes to success; money or time. I don’t begrudge the whales because without them, the game would not exist. People who want to pump a ton of money into building a winning team have every right to do so. As a F2P, I take a level of pride in being able to build a team which can compete with them at the higher levels. __________________

09-21-2021, 06:24 PM	#2
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	I mean yeah, trying to pull the cards you want from packs is really unlikely. Buying is the way to go

09-23-2021, 10:07 AM	#8
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,620	You are correct, Professor. The fact that you can succeed at any level even as an FTP (remind me, but I think Perfect WS was won twice by FTP's last year) is amazing. I've won a couple of Gold's this year as an FTP. Not too shabby for a cheapskate. I hate to break the news to the OP, but this is a business. It takes a hefty revenue stream to pay for product development...or to keep the price low...or to keep our development team accessible on the forums. We're seeing the benefits of PT's revenue stream in so many ways that aren't apparent until you sit back and look at the game improvements as a whole. I think the investment has paid off in spades for all of us. __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

09-24-2021, 12:31 AM	#9
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	What a great night! 25 of the TM3 missions done when they dropped and four more completed with a small number of PPs. I should have the final mission done tomorrow with about 50 duplicate Silver cards to sell at a substantial profit. That Gehrig card seems like it is going to be sick! __________________

09-24-2021, 02:27 AM	#11
Hertston Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 327	Wrong place, sorry. __________________ Ballymahon Bassets (FTP) Last edited by Hertston; 09-24-2021 at 02:29 AM.

09-27-2021, 03:22 PM	#17
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually kinda hope the last question mark set of missions is more difficult. I've been over-prepared for the last 2 mission releases (prime performers & TM3) and have a bunch of unlocked diamonds & perfects still. They have been a lot easier than they were last year, so far.