MLB - NCAA D1 & D2 Template

ashburnandyawkey · 01-27-2021, 04:25 PM

There were a lot of issues with the quick start file I built. So instead of trying to salvage that, I dug in to building a template to build out a 'complete' North American baseball template.

Current template:
Pro Leagues
MLB (with teams reassigned to delete the central division and return the Astros & Brewers to their original league)

MiLB
Complete realignment to mirror 2021 changes (but I refuse to move the PawSox out of McCoy because Worcester baseball fans don't deserve AAA...specifically the woman who put her chewing gum in a napkin, then into my fiancee's chicken fingers...true story)

Current divisional alignments are best guess based on current team line-ups.

Deleted secondary teams from developmental leagues (GCL, AZL & DSL)

Indy ball
All pro leagues down to Empire & United Shore. Aside from realignments (teams to affiliated), no changes from default.

Gastonia Honey whatevers added with correct field name (and I do have a logo)

Pioneer League reassigned as an independent league

College
NCAA Division 1 & Division 2
1 league, all teams in their current conferences as league divisions.
There may be some inaccuracies based on conference changes between 2019 & 2021.

All teams have accurate city & field factors are not accurate.

Tournaments & Winter Leagues
Arizona Fall (no changes from default)

Caribbean Series
Current leagues & teams in one tournament. Each league is a division, just as in the NCAA leagues. Cities and stadiums are not accurate (yet).

World Baseball Classic (no changes from default)

Google Drive download:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KC-...ew?usp=sharing

Planned additions:

Colleges

NCAA Division 3
NAIA
NJCAA D1-3

Top 5 Summer College Baseball Leagues
MLB Draft League
Cape Cod Baseball League
New England Collegiate Baseball League
Northwoods League
Futures Collegiate Baseball League
(each will be an independent winter league)

High School
Top 10 high school teams per state
1 HS league, 52 divisions (sates plus Washington DC & Prep Schools)

Travel Ball
American Legion World Series
7 regional all-star teams in round robin tournament

Perfect Game
U18 BCS National Championship (20 teams)
WWBA National Champions (64 teams)

Prep Baseball Report
U18 National Championship (20 teams)

Pony Baseball World Series
8 regional teams including Asia, Europe, Puerto Rico & Mexico

International Baseball
2020
WBSC U-23 World Cup (biannual)
wasn't played last year, presumably because of COVID
12 teams

2021
WBSC Premier 12 (biannual)
Top 12 teams (no pro experience, limiting to AA and below)

WBSC U-18 World Cup (biannual)
12 teams

2024 Olympics
default settings

If anyone is interested in helping with ballpark factors for these teams, I am definitely interested in help with that.

Insomniac · 01-29-2021, 09:22 AM

Wow. This is impressive.

How are you handling schedules for the NCAA level? I'm always looking for (or trying to create) a good, realistic college game, but I always end up frustrated with the scheduling side of it. That's me being picky, but I'm curious as to what you are doing for it.

Thanks!

ashburnandyawkey · 01-29-2021, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insomniac

Wow. This is impressive.

How are you handling schedules for the NCAA level? I'm always looking for (or trying to create) a good, realistic college game, but I always end up frustrated with the scheduling side of it. That's me being picky, but I'm curious as to what you are doing for it.

Thanks!

Same. For now I'm just letting default scheduling happen. 50 games (60 for NAIA).

Once I get the whole template built out, I may jump into the schedule. Seems pretty daunting, though. But I'd like to throttle back the number of massive pitching prospects that I seem to get out of college whenever I play a MLB/NCAA game.

But, I've never done custom scheduling (and I've been playing OOTP since near the beginning).

goldmonk · 01-30-2021, 08:37 AM

Tried to load the template, but it failed. Do you know why this is?

ashburnandyawkey · 01-30-2021, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldmonk

Tried to load the template, but it failed. Do you know why this is?

Sorry Monk, I don't. I'll try loading the file on my laptop and see if I can replicate then trouble shoot.

goldmonk · 01-30-2021, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashburnandyawkey

Sorry Monk, I don't. I'll try loading the file on my laptop and see if I can replicate then trouble shoot.

Could it be because I'm trying to load it into 20 when it's designed for 21?

ashburnandyawkey · 01-31-2021, 03:26 PM

That's a possibility. I'm not sure what the backwards compatibility is for 21 templates.

Insomniac · 02-01-2021, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashburnandyawkey

But, I've never done custom scheduling (and I've been playing OOTP since near the beginning).

Same. I've tried everything short of manually creating a schedule (time-consuming, and I have no idea what happens in year 2), but that appears to be my next step.

Thanks!

ashburnandyawkey · 02-01-2021, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insomniac

Same. I've tried everything short of manually creating a schedule (time-consuming, and I have no idea what happens in year 2), but that appears to be my next step.

Thanks!

I'm going to guess if you hand it a custom schedule file that it would keep that schedule year over year. Don't quote me though.

I'm slowly working through high schools now. I'm up to New Mexico, and I can feel the resource drain...3300+ teams.

kev24fan · 02-01-2021, 04:36 PM

This sounds like fun but I can not open WTP files on a MAC. Is there any way I can get a ZIP of this?

ashburnandyawkey · 02-01-2021, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kev24fan

This sounds like fun but I can not open WTP files on a MAC. Is there any way I can get a ZIP of this?

I've got a couple different files for you in a ZIP
Pro baseball & NCAA D1
Pro baseball & NCAA D1-D2
Pro baseball, NCAA D1-3, NAIA & NJCAA D1-D3
Pro baseball, NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA, California Community Colleges & Northwest Conference
Pro baseball, NCAA, NAIA, Juco, and high school.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fbg...ew?usp=sharing

Jeff1787 · 02-26-2021, 09:43 PM

Wow what an accomplishment!!

I was wondering, when creating a huge game like this, is there anyway to save it during the creation process?

Sabres2000 · 03-13-2021, 12:43 PM

How do i use this WTP file to put into OOTP21 to use this database structure

I found this

http://manuals.ootpdevelopments.com/...emplate_dialog

When i go to import it and create the save it crashes

finn · 03-19-2021, 06:11 PM

this is incredible, thank you! importing the files right now

jhickey6 · 03-26-2021, 08:50 AM

New to mods and trying to get D1 & D2 installed into OOTP 21 or 22. What do I do to actually get this to work? Any help on get this into the game so I can play D1 & D2 would be great?

jhickey6 · 03-28-2021, 08:45 AM

How do you import this and actually make this work? Please help anyone?

ashburnandyawkey · 03-28-2021, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhickey6

How do you import this and actually make this work? Please help anyone?

From the front screen, create a New Custom Game.
Skip the first screen where it prompts to create a real, fictional or historic world. Go right to the advanced settings screen.

Click the "Advanced" tab in the left side menu.

Click "Import Template", then select the file from the folder you've assigned it to.

That should load you up.

MJONNY59 · 03-28-2021, 04:35 PM

Hi,

GREAT Mod, and thanks for creating. My Question:

After importing the template and starting the new game with it, it appears that only some teams in the NCAA D1 actually had populated rosters. Why would many on the teams have empty rosters? Since some teams..like the entire A10 league - had all their rosters populated, could it be that an error occurred during creation?

EDIT: may have answered my own question. Looks like none of the teams from U-Z alphabetically had their rosters populated. Had to be some kind of error I guess, though the setup process did not report an error...

ashburnandyawkey · 03-28-2021, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJONNY59

Hi,

EDIT: may have answered my own question. Looks like none of the teams from U-Z alphabetically had their rosters populated. Had to be some kind of error I guess, though the setup process did not report an error...

I had a ton of issues with getting this template to work.

I'm working on an updated version of this mod for the new version.

itsmb8 · 03-31-2021, 06:14 AM

Id love to help on this in any way I can.

One thing of note when I was experimenting with it in OOTP21, when you first start the game and players are first generated for the high school and college leagues, you had them set up for HS to generate ages 15-18, JUCO 19-21, and NCAA 19-23. What would happen, though, is the game would call every single player a freshman because it was their first playing year, so the first two years the only draftable players would be Juco players, year 3 would be Juco and NCAA players, and year 4 would be NCAA, Juco, and HS players. Also, only in year 8 would be the first instance where every single college player would also have HS stats.

Also, I felt like the draft pools were in general too talented (20-30 75+ pot players) but I might've done something wrong so take it with a grain of salt.

01-27-2021, 04:25 PM	#1
ashburnandyawkey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 122	MLB - NCAA D1 & D2 Template There were a lot of issues with the quick start file I built. So instead of trying to salvage that, I dug in to building a template to build out a 'complete' North American baseball template. Current template: Pro Leagues MLB (with teams reassigned to delete the central division and return the Astros & Brewers to their original league) MiLB Complete realignment to mirror 2021 changes (but I refuse to move the PawSox out of McCoy because Worcester baseball fans don't deserve AAA...specifically the woman who put her chewing gum in a napkin, then into my fiancee's chicken fingers...true story) Current divisional alignments are best guess based on current team line-ups. Deleted secondary teams from developmental leagues (GCL, AZL & DSL) Indy ball All pro leagues down to Empire & United Shore. Aside from realignments (teams to affiliated), no changes from default. Gastonia Honey whatevers added with correct field name (and I do have a logo) Pioneer League reassigned as an independent league College NCAA Division 1 & Division 2 1 league, all teams in their current conferences as league divisions. There may be some inaccuracies based on conference changes between 2019 & 2021. All teams have accurate city & field factors are not accurate. Tournaments & Winter Leagues Arizona Fall (no changes from default) Caribbean Series Current leagues & teams in one tournament. Each league is a division, just as in the NCAA leagues. Cities and stadiums are not accurate (yet). World Baseball Classic (no changes from default) Google Drive download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KC-...ew?usp=sharing Planned additions: Colleges NCAA Division 3 NAIA NJCAA D1-3 Top 5 Summer College Baseball Leagues MLB Draft League Cape Cod Baseball League New England Collegiate Baseball League Northwoods League Futures Collegiate Baseball League (each will be an independent winter league) High School Top 10 high school teams per state 1 HS league, 52 divisions (sates plus Washington DC & Prep Schools) Travel Ball American Legion World Series 7 regional all-star teams in round robin tournament Perfect Game U18 BCS National Championship (20 teams) WWBA National Champions (64 teams) Prep Baseball Report U18 National Championship (20 teams) Pony Baseball World Series 8 regional teams including Asia, Europe, Puerto Rico & Mexico International Baseball 2020 WBSC U-23 World Cup (biannual) wasn't played last year, presumably because of COVID 12 teams 2021 WBSC Premier 12 (biannual) Top 12 teams (no pro experience, limiting to AA and below) WBSC U-18 World Cup (biannual) 12 teams 2024 Olympics default settings If anyone is interested in helping with ballpark factors for these teams, I am definitely interested in help with that. __________________ Baseball & Nonsense: FaradaySports

01-29-2021, 09:22 AM	#2
Insomniac Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 402	Wow. This is impressive. How are you handling schedules for the NCAA level? I'm always looking for (or trying to create) a good, realistic college game, but I always end up frustrated with the scheduling side of it. That's me being picky, but I'm curious as to what you are doing for it. Thanks! __________________ Michael

01-31-2021, 03:26 PM	#7
ashburnandyawkey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 122	That's a possibility. I'm not sure what the backwards compatibility is for 21 templates. __________________ Baseball & Nonsense: FaradaySports

03-13-2021, 12:43 PM	#13
Sabres2000 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,022	How do i use this WTP file to put into OOTP21 to use this database structure I found this http://manuals.ootpdevelopments.com/...emplate_dialog When i go to import it and create the save it crashes Last edited by Sabres2000; 03-13-2021 at 01:49 PM.

03-19-2021, 06:11 PM	#14
finn Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2017 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 26	this is incredible, thank you! importing the files right now __________________ Olive \|\| She/Her/They/Them Instagram \|\| Tumblr \|\| Bandcamp \|\| Twitter

01-30-2021, 08:37 AM	#4
goldmonk Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 82	Tried to load the template, but it failed. Do you know why this is?

02-01-2021, 04:36 PM	#10
kev24fan Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 495	This sounds like fun but I can not open WTP files on a MAC. Is there any way I can get a ZIP of this?

02-26-2021, 09:43 PM	#12
Jeff1787 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Doghouse Posts: 3,558	Wow what an accomplishment!! I was wondering, when creating a huge game like this, is there anyway to save it during the creation process?

03-26-2021, 08:50 AM	#15
jhickey6 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 6	D1 & D2 get to work New to mods and trying to get D1 & D2 installed into OOTP 21 or 22. What do I do to actually get this to work? Any help on get this into the game so I can play D1 & D2 would be great?

03-28-2021, 08:45 AM	#16
jhickey6 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 6	D1 & D2 get to work How do you import this and actually make this work? Please help anyone?

03-28-2021, 04:35 PM	#18
MJONNY59 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12	Hi, GREAT Mod, and thanks for creating. My Question: After importing the template and starting the new game with it, it appears that only some teams in the NCAA D1 actually had populated rosters. Why would many on the teams have empty rosters? Since some teams..like the entire A10 league - had all their rosters populated, could it be that an error occurred during creation? EDIT: may have answered my own question. Looks like none of the teams from U-Z alphabetically had their rosters populated. Had to be some kind of error I guess, though the setup process did not report an error... Last edited by MJONNY59; 03-28-2021 at 04:41 PM.

03-31-2021, 06:14 AM	#20
itsmb8 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,343	Id love to help on this in any way I can. One thing of note when I was experimenting with it in OOTP21, when you first start the game and players are first generated for the high school and college leagues, you had them set up for HS to generate ages 15-18, JUCO 19-21, and NCAA 19-23. What would happen, though, is the game would call every single player a freshman because it was their first playing year, so the first two years the only draftable players would be Juco players, year 3 would be Juco and NCAA players, and year 4 would be NCAA, Juco, and HS players. Also, only in year 8 would be the first instance where every single college player would also have HS stats. Also, I felt like the draft pools were in general too talented (20-30 75+ pot players) but I might've done something wrong so take it with a grain of salt.