Mound Visits

chrome540 · 06-10-2021, 08:58 AM

This may seem as overkill as a request, but how about an option button for mound visits. You could visit for reasons such as:

Stamina
Talk Strategy
Talk mechanics

or maybe even send out the Pitching coach

swoboda · 06-10-2021, 10:47 AM

There is an option for mound visits , on the second one in a single inning you have to change pitchers per MLB rules. Letter "b" during game play.

chrome540 · 06-10-2021, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swoboda

There is an option for mound visits , on the second one in a single inning you have to change pitchers per MLB rules. Letter "b" during game play.

I know about that, but every time I pay a visit the pitcher tells me about how much he has left in the tank. I'm out there to discuss why are you hanging these curve balls (mechanics), or how to pitch this next guy, because right now you're getting rocked.

BIG17EASY · 06-10-2021, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chrome540

This may seem as overkill as a request, but how about an option button for mound visits. You could visit for reasons such as:

Stamina
Talk Strategy
Talk mechanics

or maybe even send out the Pitching coach

Interesting suggestion. How would you know which one to choose, though? Aside from maybe using "Talk Strategy" when a star hitter is up next, I'm not sure how you'd know which option to use otherwise.

chrome540 · 06-10-2021, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Interesting suggestion. How would you know which one to choose, though? Aside from maybe using "Talk Strategy" when a star hitter is up next, I'm not sure how you'd know which option to use otherwise.

When the pitcher gets in to that mode where everyone is hitting it on the screws, I think that's more of a Pitching Coach visit so this would be mechanics to slow him down.
1st and 3rd Freeman at the plate Acuna on deck that would be more a strategic visit.
Perfect example, My SP walked 5 guys, including the pitcher, accounting for 2 runs in the 2nd inning. I went to the mound and he told me "I haven't even broken a sweat yet."
If a pitcher loses command like that the pitching coach or catcher should have something for him, or just to settle him down.

Brad K · 06-10-2021, 03:23 PM

Do mound visits do anything?

Is the pitchers performance randomization of ratings OR....

is there a "be terrible for x batters" routine in the program?

And if there is how often does a mound visit stop this? Does the visitor have to say the "right thing".

Will_L · 06-10-2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chrome540

This may seem as overkill as a request, but how about an option button for mound visits. You could visit for reasons such as:

Stamina
Talk Strategy
Talk mechanics

Telling the pitcher what time his bus is leaving for AAA.

BIG17EASY · 06-11-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chrome540

When the pitcher gets in to that mode where everyone is hitting it on the screws, I think that's more of a Pitching Coach visit so this would be mechanics to slow him down.

Every visit is a pitching coach visit in OOTP.

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1st and 3rd Freeman at the plate Acuna on deck that would be more a strategic visit.

What if he's also getting hit on the screws and you'd ideally want to talk mechanics AND strategy?

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Perfect example, My SP walked 5 guys, including the pitcher, accounting for 2 runs in the 2nd inning. I went to the mound and he told me "I haven't even broken a sweat yet."
If a pitcher loses command like that the pitching coach or catcher should have something for him, or just to settle him down.

I think what you're really looking for is just some more clarity about what a mound visit does. The reaction from the pitcher suggests the coach just asks how the pitcher is feeling, but I'd be willing to bet that a mound visit affects more than just stamina. The questions Brad K poses are the ones that need to be answered before specific mound visit options are considered.

jeffw3000 · 06-11-2021, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

Do mound visits do anything?

Is the pitchers performance randomization of ratings OR....

is there a "be terrible for x batters" routine in the program?

And if there is how often does a mound visit stop this? Does the visitor have to say the "right thing".

I have always wondered about the mound visit myself. I use the bullpen warmup rule and I am pretty sure that a mound visit will buy time for the bullpen. At least, when I visit the mound with a pitcher warming up, it sure seems like they become ready faster. I have always wondered if the visit the mound option could ever help the current pitcher at all, or if it only helps him by getting the bullpen pitcher ready faster, so you can get him out of the game as quick as possible.

Sweed · 06-11-2021, 05:55 PM

Per the OOTP 22 manual, and it has, if not always, been this way for a long time.

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Visit Mound The manager visits the pitcher on the mound. This option is usually used to try to calm down the pitcher if he has gotten in trouble. This option also helps use up some time if you are warming up a relief pitcher, and gives the manager a better idea of how tired his pitcher is.

Like real life it isn't a certainty it will work.

Now queue up all the users who say the developers just wrote this in the manual and it does nothing.

Brad K · 06-11-2021, 06:16 PM

On several issues including this one the manual makes no distinction between a historical game or a fictional game. In a historical game if visit the mound, coaches influence, bringing rookies up to the major when they are "ready" etc has an effect, then players will not perform historically. We have two different games here and I hope the game engine treats it that way, even if the manual doesn't.

AdamLindsBeard · 06-11-2021, 06:20 PM

I would think that, at some point, a mound visit should include something like...

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Bobfather · 06-11-2021, 09:21 PM

If a mound visit helps a reliever warm up quicker, then I would like to be able to take the 'slow' walk to the mound for the second visit, to get my reliever ready. And still have to take out the current pitcher, and say a few choice words the ump may overhear.

Brad K · 06-11-2021, 11:15 PM

I think that it allows a RP more time to get warm and other than that its flavor.

jdw31158 · 06-13-2021, 02:29 PM

Maybe the dialogue should include, "okay, cut the crap. Strike this MF out ".

manitoba45oes · 06-14-2021, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamLindsBeard

I would think that, at some point, a mound visit should include something like...

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brotherblues · 06-14-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

I think that it allows a RP more time to get warm and other than that its flavor.

Yeah think so too

fredbeene · 06-20-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chrome540

This may seem as overkill as a request, but how about an option button for mound visits. You could visit for reasons such as:

Stamina
Talk Strategy
Talk mechanics

or maybe even send out the Pitching coach

that would be fun to track as stat too.
who leads the league in mound visits?
what are the top discussions?

if we can't incorporate them into the game, having them available where we can do our own reporting would be nice.

06-10-2021, 08:58 AM	#1
chrome540 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 32	Mound Visits This may seem as overkill as a request, but how about an option button for mound visits. You could visit for reasons such as: Stamina Talk Strategy Talk mechanics or maybe even send out the Pitching coach

06-10-2021, 10:47 AM	#2
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	There is an option for mound visits , on the second one in a single inning you have to change pitchers per MLB rules. Letter "b" during game play. __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson Last edited by swoboda; 06-10-2021 at 11:12 AM.

06-10-2021, 03:23 PM	#6
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,658 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	Do mound visits do anything? Is the pitchers performance randomization of ratings OR.... is there a "be terrible for x batters" routine in the program? And if there is how often does a mound visit stop this? Does the visitor have to say the "right thing".

06-11-2021, 06:16 PM	#11
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,658 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	On several issues including this one the manual makes no distinction between a historical game or a fictional game. In a historical game if visit the mound, coaches influence, bringing rookies up to the major when they are "ready" etc has an effect, then players will not perform historically. We have two different games here and I hope the game engine treats it that way, even if the manual doesn't.

06-11-2021, 09:21 PM	#13
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,571	If a mound visit helps a reliever warm up quicker, then I would like to be able to take the 'slow' walk to the mound for the second visit, to get my reliever ready. And still have to take out the current pitcher, and say a few choice words the ump may overhear.

06-11-2021, 11:15 PM	#14
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,658 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	I think that it allows a RP more time to get warm and other than that its flavor.

06-13-2021, 02:29 PM	#15
jdw31158 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 163	Maybe the dialogue should include, "okay, cut the crap. Strike this MF out ".