A-Rod intends to play for the Jets.

[Cobra Mgr]

A-Rod wants to play for NYJ. He must have enjoyed the dark.

[damientheomen3]

One of ESPN's reports says the Packers are looking for compensation close to what the Lions got tor Matthew Stafford. Given the fact that Rodgers is 39 and wants to go to a specific team, that seems like way too much. However, the rest of the quarterback market has essentially played out so the Jets have no real alternative and thus little leverage at this point in the trade talks. So the deal ultimately comes down to which team blinks first.

I believe if Rodgers specifically retires that will hit the Packers with somewhere in the neighborhood of $80 million in dead cap money, so that leads me to believe the Jets will ultimately win the leverage battle, but we'll see.

[Déjà Bru]

I love how he gave the Jets a shopping list of receivers that he wanted.

[rink23]

I don't see Rodgers retiring at this point.
It would mean going into the Hall of Fame at the same time as Brady, with TB12 getting the bulk of the fanfare.
His ego would not be able to handle that.

[Ragnar]

As long as they shore up that offensive line, they should have a pretty good team. He's not going to last long taking the hits Mike White took.

[Syd Thrift]

Sacks are also mostly a QB stat. The Jets do need to improve their line but Rodgers has played behind bad lines in his past and can just throw or move his way out of trouble in ways that Mike White and Zach simply don't know how to.

[Amazin69]

But Alex Rodriguez doesn't even PLAY football!

(I refer to Rodgers as "A-Rodg" for just that reason, personally. Although as I call Alex "A-Roid", I possibly don't need to do that.)

So the Jets are giving up on #2 Overall pick Zach Wilson after just two seasons? Great long-range planning, dudes. Really maximized those assets, there.

[Syd Thrift]

They also started Wilson way too early even after they knew he was a work in progress when they drafted him.Honestly the way he looked last year, insisting that he start again would be nothing more than that good old sunk cost fallacy at work again. High pick or not, and however they might have treated him differently, he’s clearly not ready for a starting role. If anything a year or two of Rodgers at the helm with Wilson as an understudy probably gives him the best chance of overcoming the bust tag.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Sacks are also mostly a QB stat. The Jets do need to improve their line but Rodgers has played behind bad lines in his past and can just throw or move his way out of trouble in ways that Mike White and Zach simply don't know how to.

I beg to differ. Rodgers is garbage when not given enough time to throw the ball. I've seen him under pressure, and it's not pretty. But that's ok, I've seen many really good QBs that don't do well under pressure. Rodgers can scramble out of trouble, if that's what you mean.

A good example of this is Patrick Mahomes. It wasn't until this past season that he played very well under pressure. I don't want to say panic, but up until last year he used to take off when under any pressure, as opposed to stepping up into the pocket.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

They also started Wilson way too early even after they knew he was a work in progress when they drafted him.Honestly the way he looked last year, insisting that he start again would be nothing more than that good old sunk cost fallacy at work again. High pick or not, and however they might have treated him differently, he’s clearly not ready for a starting role. If anything a year or two of Rodgers at the helm with Wilson as an understudy probably gives him the best chance of overcoming the bust tag.

I agree with this mostly. But the way rookie contracts work, two more years and he'll be off the team. You know they won't pick up his 5th year option, so what do they do after 4 years? They're not paying him 45M a year.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I beg to differ.

Sacks are a QB stat. Sorry if that makes you sad but your feelings don't make this less true.

[monkeyman576]

I don't think trading for a 39 year old quarterback is the best move for the Jets, given the amount of help they need to be competitive.

[GeoWar]

Just read an article about 3 views of the leverage options in the Packers - Rodgers - Jets situation .....
Rodgers went into the "dark" room with the thoughts of playing or not ( meaning a restructure of his contract ). When he came out he decided he was going to play . Hearing the Packers talk about moving on from him at QB and that it appeared NY Jets were the option -- Rodgers stated he would play for the Jets .
The Jets have stated that they thought their team was ready to win but they were committed long term to Zac Wilson . So they have interest in a veteran QB that could help them win now and demonstrate to Wilson how to develop and use his skill set .
Now without a deal in place the Packers management states they were ready to move on ---- then stated trade demands .

The Jets our not going to risk their future to get Rodgers to play for them for two years *** when they move on to Wilson and Rodgers is 41 . Rodgers has also told Packers in 2018 that he planned to play till his mid-40's .

I am a Packers fan and would not be bothered if Rodgers returns to Green Bay . But this is "strange" for Packers . The Jets after free agency has some pieces that are overpaid for the role the Jets have for them . So a trade idea ........

Packers and Jets swap 1st round picks in 2023 and Jets trade 2023 3rd rd pick #74 plus 3rd rd pick in 2024 plus Jets include WR Corey Davis , S Jordan Whitehead and TE C.J. Uzomah ........ For A. Rodgers

As a Packer fan -- I do not see Packers with Jordan Love at QB making the Playoffs . In the exhibition games and the mopup starts he has not been impressive. The trade above offers two experienced receivers and a safety plus the 3rd round picks --- the swap of 1st rounders is just face saving for Packer management ***** hope move on from BG soon.

[Syd Thrift]

I *feel* like a pick swap and two thirds won’t be enough for A-Aron but it’s definitely closer IMO to the right range than the “multiple firsts” I’m seeing. Like, Russell Wilson cost 2 1sts (a bit more but a lot of that was cap space maneuvering), Wilson’s stock was higher than Rodgers’ is now, and everyone saw what happened to Wilson and so nobody is going to give that kind of haul up.

Right now if I had to speculate I’d say that the Packers are holding onto the notion that the Jets have a history of making bad decisions and so will eventually cave and give them a first. This is also the team that pulled 2 1sts from my team for Jamal Adams so I’m thinking they won’t be the one who flinches first, plus, worst case scenario the Jets can just have another bad year with crappy QBs in 2023 whereas the Packers pretty much have to get out from underneath Rodgers and they’ve already maneuvered themselves into a situation where they probably can only move him to NY.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Sacks are a QB stat. Sorry if that makes you sad but your feelings don't make this less true.

Sacks are also a team stat. And that doesn't change the fact Rodgers sucks under pressure. See week 5 of 2020. He's not doing any better on the Jets under those circumstances.

[ThatSeventiesGuy]

I assume he’ll play with them for a season, then move on to play a couple more with the Vikings before retiring?

[Ragnar]

I don't believe the Packers want to keep Rodgers. All the Jets have to do is hold out as long as they can. The packers can drag this out until week 1. But then a decision has to be made, do they want to guarantee the 58M? I think not.

I'm guessing the Packers get a 1st round pick for A-Rod, maybe a tiny bit more.

[GeoWar]

What if Rodgers does NOT want to move , but is agreeable if the Jets locker room is somewhat known to him ?

The Packers have some serious issues with the salary cap. But have restructured AJ and DB contracts and resigned OL Jenkins ..... The rookie receivers have adjusted in second half of season.

Packers are aware that the key players on the offense are still looking at Rodgers as QB if he is on the team .

Rodgers has said that he will play for the Jets --- and he says he loves Green Bay and few players are able to start and finish with the same team . Rodgers would like to be one of those.

Sounds like Stafford maybe available from Rams if Rodgers is not . If Rodgers does not move would the Jets show interest of swapping backup QBs ?

Other teams for Rodgers possible trade --- Tenn, Balt., LA Rams, Atlanta, even Carolina ......

The Packers would need the package to fit the salary cap -------
1st roumd picks are expensive.

[Syd Thrift]

Stafford would have been available up until I think it was Friday when he got a big balloon payment as part of his contract. At this point if the Rams were to trade him they'd have an insane cap hit for this season, something like $50M.

Otherwise I don't think the Packers have other trading partners. They've been working with the Jets, Rodgers said hes amenable to the Jets and not other teams, and if they F around with him he'll just retire.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by GeoWar

Sounds like Stafford maybe available from Rams if Rodgers is not . If Rodgers does not move would the Jets show interest of swapping backup QBs ?

What backup QB do the Jets have to swap?