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[beepollen]

Anyone here have strong opinions on what to choose here?

To refresh memories, the options are:

1. Career Totals
2. Remaining Years of Career
3. Peak Seasons of Career
4. Remaining Peak Seasons

Without knowing specifics of what these do, for purposes of my single-season replays, I go with Remaining Peak Seasons. I chose that because it sounded logical (although, thinking it over, my logic could lead me to the same place no matter my pick).

[Darviathar]

I always choose remaining peak seasons, but the AI doesn't seem to pay much attention to it anyway. I turned trading frequency down to the lowest setting that actually allows trades, to try to keep it from making so many mindless deals. Like the Atlanta Braves trading Dale Murphy for Butch Wynegar.

[beepollen]

Originally Posted by Darviathar

I always choose remaining peak seasons, but the AI doesn't seem to pay much attention to it anyway. I turned trading frequency down to the lowest setting that actually allows trades, to try to keep it from making so many mindless deals. Like the Atlanta Braves trading Dale Murphy for Butch Wynegar.

Needs to be a setting or a better AI that knows not to trade franchise stars without a REALLY good offer.


I recently was replaying a season from the mid-80s - and the Brewers shipped Robin Yount to Baltimore for nothing memorable in return. I *strongly* considered exercising my godlike powers as commissioner to send him right back to Milwaukee.

[AESP_pres]

Originally Posted by beepollen

Needs to be a setting or a better AI that knows not to trade franchise stars without a REALLY good offer.

But the AI doesn't know who will became a franchise star, we know (unless we don't use recalc) but he doesn't.

Do you think the Expos knew that Randy Johnson would be a major star when they trade him for Mark Langston?

[beepollen]

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

But the AI doesn't know who will became a franchise star, we know (unless we don't use recalc) but he doesn't.

Do you think the Expos knew that Randy Johnson would be a major star when they trade him for Mark Langston?

By "franchise star," I'm talking about a one-franchise player in his post-prime, at the latest - not someone who *might* be a stud down the road.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by beepollen

Anyone here have strong opinions on what to choose here?

To refresh memories, the options are:

1. Career Totals
2. Remaining Years of Career
3. Peak Seasons of Career
4. Remaining Peak Seasons

Without knowing specifics of what these do, for purposes of my single-season replays, I go with Remaining Peak Seasons. I chose that because it sounded logical (although, thinking it over, my logic could lead me to the same place no matter my pick).

I go with remaining years of career, because it just feels the most realistic to me. To each their own though.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

I go with remaining years of career, because it just feels the most realistic to me. To each their own though.

I wonder about this, too. Are you saying "it feels the most realistic" because of the results you get with it, or just because it sounds more realistic? For me, I choose the same because it sounds more realistic, but I don't really understand what affect this selection has (or even if it means anything, since I always do historical with recalc, usually 1-year).

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by thehef

I wonder about this, too. Are you saying "it feels the most realistic" because of the results you get with it, or just because it sounds more realistic? For me, I choose the same because it sounds more realistic, but I don't really understand what affect this selection has (or even if it means anything, since I always do historical with recalc, usually 1-year).

I've always wondered when using recalc how much this selection even matters. I have a feeling recalc is the most important factor in play and even if one is combining recalc and the development engine, I still think recalc will be the deciding factor. Now if one is using the development engine only, I'm guessing the base potential ratings selection could play a bigger role in how certain players careers play out.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by thehef

I wonder about this, too. Are you saying "it feels the most realistic" because of the results you get with it, or just because it sounds more realistic? For me, I choose the same because it sounds more realistic, but I don't really understand what affect this selection has (or even if it means anything, since I always do historical with recalc, usually 1-year).

I think this selection will give you the seasons in the chronological order they happened in, so players will go through dips, and weird seasons when they didn't play a lot (or in some cases at all). I don't know what the Peak Seasons setting would do. Does it stack the player's seasons in order of godliness? I don't know.

I use 5-year, double weighted recalc in my HRD games, so that the guys who went off to war or lost multiple years to injuries will have as many numbers as possible to go off of. I used to use Neutered Stats, but I switched to Real Stats with the 5-year double weighted, and it gets me what I want to see, so I'm good with it.

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by beepollen

Anyone here have strong opinions on what to choose here?

To refresh memories, the options are:

1. Career Totals
2. Remaining Years of Career
3. Peak Seasons of Career
4. Remaining Peak Seasons

Without knowing specifics of what these do, for purposes of my single-season replays, I go with Remaining Peak Seasons. I chose that because it sounded logical (although, thinking it over, my logic could lead me to the same place no matter my pick).

22 years into the game, and the documentation and in game help as not been updated to assist with these basic questions.
You will find yourself spending hours TESTING yourself and finding things out like, oooops POTENTIAL means nothing for players over 30.
Try it....go into commish mode....set a player over 30 wiht 250 power.....
to bad, to old

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I've always wondered when using recalc how much this selection even matters. I have a feeling recalc is the most important factor in play and even if one is combining recalc and the development engine, I still think recalc will be the deciding factor. Now if one is using the development engine only, I'm guessing the base potential ratings selection could play a bigger role in how certain players careers play out.

You have been such a big help on the boards for so long....why doesn't OOTP just document?? everyone has variations on the same questions....
with no definitive answers....

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

But the AI doesn't know who will became a franchise star, we know (unless we don't use recalc) but he doesn't.

Do you think the Expos knew that Randy Johnson would be a major star when they trade him for Mark Langston?

Some of the AI scouts must figure it out. I had several trade offers for Moises Alou when he was in AA and my scout rated him 0.5 star current and 1.5 star potential.

I kept him because of real world knowledge. I like to see familiar names but do things to reduce the effect of real world knowledge. One is to have average spending less than league average. Another is to not retire players according to history. I think that's not enough though. I wish there was a "Help AI" switch.

[Brad K]

This, which happened last night, seems appropriate for this discussion.