Major League Service Time

KySteveH · 04-15-2003, 10:33 PM

Folks:

I'm kinda disappointed in the way OOTP5 figures out who is eligible for arb, then free agency. It appears that if you play 1 day in a season, you get credit for having been in the league the entire year. Now, I understand that works for some players, but for most, they shuttle around a bit between the minors and bigs.

Is there any way to cause OOTP5 to use the MLB rules, i.e., actual service time?

Alternately, could I somehow "trick" the game into thinking that a player only has 1 year, instead or 4?

KySteveH · 04-18-2003, 06:21 PM

Bump

sporr · 04-18-2003, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KySteveH
Alternately, could I somehow "trick" the game into thinking that a player only has 1 year, instead or 4?

Unfortunately, as it is now, there isn't a way to edit ML service time.

KySteveH · 04-18-2003, 11:39 PM

Hmmm...well, then let me ask this: How does the game logic figure out how many years existing players have in the majors? In other words, when I begin a season, how does the game know that someone played in the minors or majors last year?

Ragin Cajun · 04-18-2003, 11:45 PM

I believe you got it right when you said one day equals one year. So if a player has stats showing up for major league service on his career screen, then that is one year of time served towards arbitration/free agent eligible.

Not positive about this, but that's how it appears.

KySteveH · 04-18-2003, 11:48 PM

Thanks!

I'll test this out and see what I can do.

KySteveH · 04-18-2003, 11:58 PM

Okay, I tested this theory, and it's got a hole. Several of my players show as having one or two years experience on the salaries screen, yet they are arb eligible. That's not right...

Wonder if there's some hidden attribute that causes a player to get flagged as arb eligible, even before 3 years. This is disappointing.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-19-2003, 12:04 AM

Some players, ficitional are created with experience.

BleacherBum · 04-19-2003, 12:20 AM

And that one day = one year method just kills the CPU run teams, 'cause they're always shuttling guys up for a week here or there, especially at the end of the season. By the time these prospects are ready to produce in the majors, they're arbitration eligible.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-19-2003, 12:22 AM

I hope that in v6 we can add depth to this area.

KySteveH · 04-19-2003, 01:00 AM

I'm surprised this feature was even included, as it does add quite a bit of complexity to things. Thanks for all the reponses!

Springtime_for_Hunter · 04-19-2003, 05:40 AM

Alternately, could I somehow "trick" the game into thinking that a player only has 1 year, instead or 4?

Sure. Just edit the contract so they have the years left that you want rather than letting the game engine handle it (i.e. give a first-year player a 6-year, $300,000 contract). You'll have to give up on arbitration or calculate it yourself, though. This was more useful before there was arbitration. It'd be nice if there was some way to offer free agents arbitration, like MLB.

04-15-2003, 10:33 PM	#1
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Major League Service Time Folks: I'm kinda disappointed in the way OOTP5 figures out who is eligible for arb, then free agency. It appears that if you play 1 day in a season, you get credit for having been in the league the entire year. Now, I understand that works for some players, but for most, they shuttle around a bit between the minors and bigs. Is there any way to cause OOTP5 to use the MLB rules, i.e., actual service time? Alternately, could I somehow "trick" the game into thinking that a player only has 1 year, instead or 4? Last edited by KySteveH; 04-16-2003 at 09:32 AM.

04-18-2003, 11:45 PM	#5
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	I believe you got it right when you said one day equals one year. So if a player has stats showing up for major league service on his career screen, then that is one year of time served towards arbitration/free agent eligible. Not positive about this, but that's how it appears. __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

04-19-2003, 12:04 AM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Some players, ficitional are created with experience. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-19-2003, 12:20 AM	#9
BleacherBum All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 672	And that one day = one year method just kills the CPU run teams, 'cause they're always shuttling guys up for a week here or there, especially at the end of the season. By the time these prospects are ready to produce in the majors, they're arbitration eligible. __________________ Right Field Sucks!

04-19-2003, 12:22 AM	#10
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	I hope that in v6 we can add depth to this area. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-18-2003, 06:21 PM	#2
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Bump

04-18-2003, 11:39 PM	#4
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Hmmm...well, then let me ask this: How does the game logic figure out how many years existing players have in the majors? In other words, when I begin a season, how does the game know that someone played in the minors or majors last year?

04-18-2003, 11:48 PM	#6
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Thanks! I'll test this out and see what I can do.

04-18-2003, 11:58 PM	#7
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Okay, I tested this theory, and it's got a hole. Several of my players show as having one or two years experience on the salaries screen, yet they are arb eligible. That's not right... Wonder if there's some hidden attribute that causes a player to get flagged as arb eligible, even before 3 years. This is disappointing.

04-19-2003, 01:00 AM	#11
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	I'm surprised this feature was even included, as it does add quite a bit of complexity to things. Thanks for all the reponses!

04-19-2003, 05:40 AM	#12
Springtime_for_Hunter All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 846	Alternately, could I somehow "trick" the game into thinking that a player only has 1 year, instead or 4? Sure. Just edit the contract so they have the years left that you want rather than letting the game engine handle it (i.e. give a first-year player a 6-year, $300,000 contract). You'll have to give up on arbitration or calculate it yourself, though. This was more useful before there was arbitration. It'd be nice if there was some way to offer free agents arbitration, like MLB.