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Old 06-30-2020, 06:37 PM   #1
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How will players like Ryan Zimmerman be handled in the next roster update?

Zimmerman is sitting out this season. Will the update have him out for 12 months with "personal reasons?"
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:19 PM   #2
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Zimmerman is sitting out this season. Will the update have him out for 12 months with "personal reasons?"

Also wondering if the update will add random players having to sit out with COVID-19 once the season gets underway.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:34 PM   #3
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Also wondering if the update will add random players having to sit out with COVID-19 once the season gets underway.
Probably will just be listed under "illness" with a duration of at least 2 weeks. But the frequency will have to be adjusted a bit.
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:40 PM   #4
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Also wondering if the update will add random players having to sit out with COVID-19 once the season gets underway.
That's a legal minefield I don't think the game should touch.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:12 PM   #5
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That's a legal minefield I don't think the game should touch.



I don't know anything about its legality, but I don't even think I'd prioritize that kind of a system anyway. It seems simple, but it would take development/resources/testing that could be used for something more productive (as I hope that feature would only be reasonable in this version- and that we don't face more seasons in quarantine).





I ask about Zimmerman, because it shouldn't be too hard to give him 12 months for personal reasons. It would take me less than 5 seconds to do myself.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:14 PM   #6
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That's a legal minefield I don't think the game should touch.
Yeah, I think those of you who play "Real" MLB should just use commish mode and do this manually as needed. Those of us who play fictional I think would prefer to play in an alternate, Covid-free universe.
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probably suspensions for the people sitting out

illness for the ones who caught it
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:28 PM   #8
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Yeah, I think those of you who play "Real" MLB should just use commish mode and do this manually as needed. Those of us who play fictional I think would prefer to play in an alternate, Covid-free universe.

It would be awfully ghoulish, and it's fairly simple to either (a) maintain a list of ill players if you must or (b) make a randomization system online or with dice or something if you really really must.

I'd think the easiest thing is to make a suspension-like status to flag the guys with. The last MLB game I played I ended up trading for Andrew Toles (I thought because the Dodgers wanted to dump his salary, now I see he's on a minor league one in the game) and he's listed as on the "restricted list" for 5-6 months. I just left him in the GCL, since he doesn't play anyway. Seems like that would work well enough for Zimmerman/Ian Desmond etc. with a note if really necessary.
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Is it possible to recycle the historical "Missed season IRL" injury to cover Zimmerman et al?
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:09 AM   #10
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We're still working through some things, but the plan is when you start a new game, you will be able to either play a "normal" season, or you can start a new game for the short season with the changed rules (or a live start on the short season as well).

We're still working through exactly what details we get to figure out what will happen to the players who have decided to skip the season, but most likely we will tag them with "injuries" to keep them out of action for the new schedule.
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I don't know anything about its legality, but I don't even think I'd prioritize that kind of a system anyway. It seems simple, but it would take development/resources/testing that could be used for something more productive (as I hope that feature would only be reasonable in this version- and that we don't face more seasons in quarantine).





I ask about Zimmerman, because it shouldn't be too hard to give him 12 months for personal reasons. It would take me less than 5 seconds to do myself.
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:30 PM   #12
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We're still working through some things, but the plan is when you start a new game, you will be able to either play a "normal" season, or you can start a new game for the short season with the changed rules (or a live start on the short season as well).

We're still working through exactly what details we get to figure out what will happen to the players who have decided to skip the season, but most likely we will tag them with "injuries" to keep them out of action for the new schedule.
A question to this. For the shortened season, will you be able to have the roster limit at 30 for the first 2 weeks, and then 28 for the next 2 weeks, and finally at 26 after that?
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A question to this. For the shortened season, will you be able to have the roster limit at 30 for the first 2 weeks, and then 28 for the next 2 weeks, and finally at 26 after that?
That's one of those issues I'm not sure about. Tentatively right now, we won't have that automatically (although you can manually change the roster limits yourself along with the schedule), but we're still exploring the situation.
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We're still working through some things, but the plan is when you start a new game, you will be able to either play a "normal" season, or you can start a new game for the short season with the changed rules (or a live start on the short season as well).

We're still working through exactly what details we get to figure out what will happen to the players who have decided to skip the season, but most likely we will tag them with "injuries" to keep them out of action for the new schedule.
This does bring up the previous discussions about changing the way the game handles "absences" that aren't really injuries.

Now, I don't think the game necessarily needs dozens of inactive lists (although I would like a few, but that's just me), but I think we do need more than just an Injured List now. This also ties in with storylines, which theoretically allow a much wider variety of things than just injuries (although I do wonder how much the development of storylines has been curtailed by having to follow what MLBPA wants).
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This does bring up the previous discussions about changing the way the game handles "absences" that aren't really injuries.

Now, I don't think the game necessarily needs dozens of inactive lists (although I would like a few, but that's just me), but I think we do need more than just an Injured List now. This also ties in with storylines, which theoretically allow a much wider variety of things than just injuries (although I do wonder how much the development of storylines has been curtailed by having to follow what MLBPA wants).
I would think for the current game they would handle the Inactive List the way they have in the past by just placing players on the 60 or 45 day IL. that said I would love to see a real inactive list, especially for players that are suspended, where they would not be on the roster, and removed from the 40-man. I would also like to see a separate Extended Spring training, instead of just sending players to the IL or a short season that has not started their season. Might be difficult to get the AI to work with Extended Spring Training, but would love to see it in the future.
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:24 PM   #16
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Matt, I really hope you guys design the new 2020 MLB season game as realistically as possible, using all of the new rules and requirements.

Also, the Covid-19 injury list should be included along with some players getting the virus. This is not morbid, just realistic.

You advertise that this is the most realistic baseball sim, so please stay true to your word and marketing.

Thanks.
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Also, the Covid-19 injury list should be included along with some players getting the virus. This is not morbid, just realistic.
Good luck getting that past the MLBPA.
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Old 07-04-2020, 12:57 PM   #18
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Also the Minors cancelled for season other then just deleting this year Schedule.
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Matt, I really hope you guys design the new 2020 MLB season game as realistically as possible, using all of the new rules and requirements.

Also, the Covid-19 injury list should be included along with some players getting the virus. This is not morbid, just realistic.

You advertise that this is the most realistic baseball sim, so please stay true to your word and marketing.

Thanks.
I would rather they base OOTP22 on a what if 2020 season that they ran 1,000 times and use the average results. I mean who wants to relive 2020 if we don't have to?
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Matt, I really hope you guys design the new 2020 MLB season game as realistically as possible, using all of the new rules and requirements.

Also, the Covid-19 injury list should be included along with some players getting the virus. This is not morbid, just realistic.

You advertise that this is the most realistic baseball sim, so please stay true to your word and marketing.

Thanks.
Personally, I want nothing to do with that. I'm all for realism in general, but I would much rather play the season as "normal" rather than have a bunch of changes tailored toward this anomaly of a season (which still has a non-zero chance of not happening at all). I understand that some people will want to play as close to the current MLB rules as possible, but attempting to simulate a pandemic is likely going a bit too far.

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